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why is there no thread about mario & luigi 3?

schlew said:
I've been hoping for another M&L game, as the first two were really something special.

I agree that the second wasn't as good as the first. The addition of the babies made the mechanics of the first game way too convoluted. And the instead of the puzzles being more difficult or creative, they instead were far more simple.

This looks to improve upon that.
How does this look to improve on M&L2?

I hope they spend more than $10 playtesting the game this time because the completely out of whack HP values at the end of M&L2 pretty strongly indicated that no one playtested to the end of the game and the values were set by an Excel function. And no babies.
 
Teetris said:
Keeping the original formula plus no stupied babies? Hell yeah!

Actually, that's exactly my point: babies were really annoying in Mario & Luigi 2.
Luigi is so amusing in this series.:lol
 
why is there no thread about mario & luigi 3?

cause the second one was shit.

EDIT: LOL at fire Goomba Bowser´s special! :lol
 
Baiano19 said:
why is there no thread about mario & luigi 3?

cause the second one was shit.

Nah, it wasn't shit. Just worse then the fantastic first one. Just keep out babies of the game and it'll be fine.
 
Does anyone know that thread which had the weird, creepy drawings of Mario?

One of them is just the babies sitting on a counter, then all of a sudden adult Mario pops up and yells "BABIES!"

Funniest set of pictures ever.
 
JSnake said:
So the entire game takes place in Bowser's tummy?
Interesting concept. I hope Mario & Luigi can leave his tummy, though. I'm not sure I'd like being stuck in there are the Mario Bros. for very long.

I loved the original M&L, but I didn't like the sequel. I remain skeptical with this new one.
 
JSnake said:
So the entire game takes place in Bowser's tummy?
I hope not.

But that trailer got me psyched for this game. I love the M/L combos you do in the battles.
 
I've enjoyed ALL the mario and luigi rpgs. Great fun. Day One on this. Looks about the same which I guess is expected. Day one.
 
Tom_Cody said:
To M&L fans: what do you enjoy about those games more than the Paper Mario games? To me, the M&L games simply don't need to exist.
I wish things you like didn't exist either. Jerk.

The first game had a more interesting overworld, far better writing, and a better (upgradable!) combat system. The second game tripped on all those counts, but then the Paper Mario series went downhill after the first, too.
Oh, I'd just like to add that IMO the expanded Mario universe content in the M&L games sinks to Sonic and his Shitty Friends levels.
Errrr. Cackletta and Fawful may not totally seem like Mario villians, but take a look at what you're defending. Vivian the cross-dressing ghost, Grodus, the X-nauts, Creepy Perv Computer That Watches Peach Take a Shower, LAST BOSS OUT OF FUCKING NOWHERE in TTYD and Lord Bleck, O'Chunks, Chameleon Fanboy, Teleporty Jester Guy and all those boring square townspeople in SPM... those seem far more out of place to me.
 
To this day, M&L is probably my single favorite "Mario RPG" game. It just seemed to do the best to meld Mario and a RPG environment together, plus it had a sweet-ass battle system to make it all gravy.

So, I'm definitely going to look out for this. And it has playable Bowser, PLUS the babies are gone? SCORE. :lol
 
Holy shit. Such awesome news! Superstar Saga was fuckawesome and hilarious, still need to play the 2nd but the trailer for this one looks great. I love these surprise announcements no one could have realistically guessed.
 
YESYESYEYSEYSYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESEYSYESYESYESYES

YESYEYSEYSYESYEYSEYSEYSYESYESYEYSEYSEYSYEYSEYSEYSYESYES!

OH GOD I CAN'T BELIEVE IT! This and Paper Mario 2 are my favorite semi-standard RPGs. I hope it uses the rumble pack, that was a great addition to 2.
 
I'm tentatively excited. Loved the GBA game, but I found Partners in Time to be largely mediocre, and at times outright BAD.

So, Alphadreams again, then?
 
Alphadream for sure?

Looking forward to it anyhow, only played the first M&L but it's fucking brilliant. Not perfect, just brilliant.

Chuckola Cola <3
 
I loved the first one but never did get the second one which sounds like that's not so bad. I'll probably get this one but man, so many good games announced I'm not sure I'll have time. Then again many of those awesome games are coming out in Japan in the next 12 months so that means we won't see them in the US for 12-24 months or never so maybe I will have time. The first one did have amazing pacing, except for the whole carry Peach through the desert (or mountains I forget) part.
 
I'm a little burned out on Mario RPG's in general I think. Partners in Time really soured me on the franchise.
 
Big, round toads, Bowser eating everything he sees... Looks like the plot is about an obesity epidemic sweeping the Mushroom Kingdom.


beelzebozo said:
I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THIS

TODAY IS AWESOME
Beelzebozo using capital letters?! This must indeed be a true megaton!
 
jarosh said:

Yah-huh.

SPM was fantastic.

But this is MORE fantastic. So excited.

rhino4evr said:
M & L 2 was AWFUL...so I have lost expectations for this.

... Calling that game "awful" is such blatantly wrong hyperbole, my mind is falling apart.
 
omg rite said:
Yah-huh.

SPM was fantastic.

But this is MORE fantastic. So excited.



... Calling that game "awful" is such blatantly wrong hyperbole, my mind is falling apart.

I thought it was awful. The game disgusts me.
 
i played partners in time this year and liked it havent played the first one yet. but ive been meaning to ask does any other rpg (not counting the first one) have combat similar to partners in time. im speaking mainly of the back and forth attacks that happen in partners in time.
 
omg rite said:
No, it really doesn't.

Please stop.

It literally did. One of my greatest gaming disappointments of all time. The first game was amazing and I found the second so horrible I stopped halfway through.
 
flak57 said:
It literally did. One of my greatest gaming disappointments of all time. The first game was amazing and I found the second so horrible I stopped halfway through.

:lol
 
There are a metric fuck-ton of RPGs out there better than SMRPG. Actually, that's a game that wasn't too difficult to surpass, IMHO.

I'd still rank PiT pretty low on the Mario RPG totem pole, though.

;p

And with what will undoubtedly ensue, I think we've killed any hope for redeeming this thread.
 
omg rite said:

wow someone has a different opinion than your usual shit one? shock and awe.

I dunno I can't get into the games, I've tried, but Mario RPG is stuck with me :( - I wasn't a fan of the first one, but the second one is better? hmmm

It could be. The M&L games tend to reference Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars with each installment.

How so?
 
The backlash against Mario & Luigi 2 doesn't make much sense. It had a lot of really clever puzzles that required lateral thinking thanks to the addition of the babies, its dual screen use wasn't offensive and the battle system was as fun and refined as before, with some added complexity (tag teaming bitches) for ultra win.

Really I still have no idea what people found to be wrong with it exactly. I miss the overworld too, and I hope it returns... but the game itself was pretty damn good. And amusing. Mario gibberish speak = :)
 
I'm about to go away for a 2 week long trip overseas.
I think I'll give M&L2 another shot. I haven't played it since the week it came out.
 
I agree with the Mario & Luigi 2 love. That game was great. Really looking forward to part 3.

I guess what I'm saying is I agree with omgrite, for once.
Time to head to the OT and find a Weezer or Lost thread to post in.
 
Christopher said:
wow someone has a different opinion than your usual shit one? shock and awe.

Aw, that's cute.

No, it has nothing to do with a different opinion.

I think GTA4 is boring as fuck. I can't get into it. I stopped playing after a few days.

But I wouldn't say it's AWFUL. That's called hyperbole. It ISN'T awful.

For some reason, nothing on GAF can be inbetween OMG BEST THING EVER or COMPLETE AND TOTAL ASS SHIT. One or the other, never any room in between.
 
It was a short, simple, barebones affair with little enough Mario charm and awkward as fuck platforming, at some points.
 
Christopher said:

Geno showed up during a minigame in the 1st one. I think that's it.

Amir0x said:
The backlash against Mario & Luigi 2 doesn't make much sense. It had a lot of really clever puzzles that required lateral thinking thanks to the addition of the babies, its dual screen use wasn't offensive and the battle system was as fun and refined as before, with some added complexity (tag teaming bitches) for ultra win.

Really I still have no idea what people found to be wrong with it exactly. I miss the overworld too, and I hope it returns... but the game itself was pretty damn good. And amusing. Mario gibberish speak = :)

I honestly have no idea, or how one can mount significant criticism against any game in the series except for Super Paper Mario. But then, people tend to exaggerate when Nintendo is less than flawless.
 
Maybes it just me, but when you're playing as Mario & Luigi it pretty much looks just like Mario & Luigi 2. When you control Bowser it looks like a nice upgrade.
 
No6 said:
How does this look to improve on M&L2?

I hope they spend more than $10 playtesting the game this time because the completely out of whack HP values at the end of M&L2 pretty strongly indicated that no one playtested to the end of the game and the values were set by an Excel function. And no babies.

They look to improve upon M&L2 by merely cutting out the shit no one liked about it. I mean, the addition of the babies soured the series prematurely for a lot of players. And now this installment brings it back to Mario and Luigi. That alone is a huge improvement.
 
omg rite said:
Aw, that's cute.

No, it has nothing to do with a different opinion.

I think GTA4 is boring as fuck. I can't get into it. I stopped playing after a few days.

But I wouldn't say it's AWFUL. That's called hyperbole. It ISN'T awful.

For some reason, nothing on GAF can be inbetween OMG BEST THING EVER or COMPLETE AND TOTAL ASS SHIT. One or the other, never any room in between.

I determine a game's quality based on how much fun I have playing it. Based on the amount of fun I had playing PiT, it received an "Awful" rating from me. Are you telling me you are a better judge than I am about my opinion on the game?
 
flak57 said:
I determine a game's quality based on how much fun I have playing it. Based on the amount of fun I had playing PiT, it received an "Awful" rating from me. Are you telling me you are a better judge than I am about my opinion on the game?

It's quite possible to not enjoy the game and still not consider it to be "awful" however.
I mean, I hate everything about soccer. So clearly, I've never enjoyed FIFA or WE. I've played them, failed to enjoy them, and that was that. But I wouldn't call either franchise "awful." Those descriptions are better saved for the true shitstorms, such as Big Rigs or whatever.
 
I would just love to see a new Mario rpg in the style of Legend of the Seven Stars. I'm kind of tired of Paper Mario, but M&L is fun. Still, I'd rather see it done the way it was one when Square did it on snes.
 
Amir0x said:
The backlash against Mario & Luigi 2 doesn't make much sense. It had a lot of really clever puzzles that required lateral thinking thanks to the addition of the babies, its dual screen use wasn't offensive and the battle system was as fun and refined as before, with some added complexity (tag teaming bitches) for ultra win.

Really I still have no idea what people found to be wrong with it exactly. I miss the overworld too, and I hope it returns... but the game itself was pretty damn good. And amusing. Mario gibberish speak = :)

I agree with all of this and yet still hated the game. What ruined the game for me was the absolutely moronic HP levels of the later bosses. It's like the developer just came up with some random ass huge number for no reason.
 
Mejilan said:
It's quite possible to not enjoy the game and still not consider it to be "awful" however.
I mean, I hate everything about soccer. So clearly, I've never enjoyed FIFA or WE. I've played them, failed to enjoy them, and that was that. But I wouldn't call either franchise "awful." Those descriptions are better saved for the true shitstorms, such as Big Rigs or whatever.

I am saying that the game is awful for me, obviously other people will have different opinions.
 
Amir0x said:
I liked both M&L games, can't wait for this one.

Incidentally, both are better than Super Mario RPG.

Didn't you have a really, really hard time with the four buttons controlling the four characters in battle? It was so frantic for me, and that is what caused me to drop it. How did you fare?
 
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