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[Dusk Soldier]

Just want to reiterate that windows has always been pushy with updates. It's not by any means a new feature for windows 10.

Also, windows doesn't release new updates every other day. They release 2 updates a month. Always on tuesdays.

If you never turn off your computer, and you always try to delay the update. Then yes it can seem like it's always harassing you.

If you get into the habit of turning off your pc when not in use, you should find it a lot less intrusive.

 

[PdotMichael]

The most annoying thing is when several Windows updates at the same time break the update process and Windows is stuck in an update loop.

 

[muu]

I've resorted to completely disabling the reboot service. Hopefully this one actually works.

Got my new PC @ work w/ Win10 maybe a month ago and I've already lost work to it twice. It was annoying as a HTPC, as a work laptop it's a fucking nightmare. It's made worse by the fact that our development software generally runs on a VM, and Win10 will forceably shut the thing down instead of trying to pause any running VMs.

 

[eso76]

I don't mind having to restart (although it would sometimes happen 5 minutes after I walked away from the computer that was supposed to render some very complex/long scene/video overnight...Nothing worse than waking up in the morning eager to check your work and realise the PC rendered 15 frames before restarting) but I wish I didn't have to manually reinstall keyboard/wacom drivers each time..

 

[teh_pwn]

I need to rant.

This seems to be becoming worse as of late to the point where it's blatantly lying to me on my Pro copies about giving me the option of when to restart. Earlier this week, I sat down to watch some stuff on my desktop and it restarted 5 minutes in without warning. I checked group policy afterwards and it claims to be set on manual. I'd be pissed if it reset the option, but to outright lie, fuck off.

My laptop (Pro) needs to download the updates about 5 times before it actually clicks - keeps getting to 95% and hanging and needs to be restarted between each attempt, and the whole time, windows is eating the disk.

Even on the Home copy I have on a 2in1 Laptop I use for reading (I accept I'll have to deal with update crap), it always waits until I'm about to use it to restart despite having set the active hours and tinkered with them several times to try and force it to wake and do whatever it needs to do when I'm not around.

Giant Bomb (particularly Vinny) had a recently rant that I was nodding along the whole time. I wonder if Enterprise would actually solve this or if it would just be more lies; easier to go back to 7, but I don't have the time right now to do that.

I've noticed this as well. Windows 10 seems to take a while to actually honor group policies, which is complete bullshit. I haven't moved over my company's software build cluster to 10 yet, but I'm thinking this mysterious lag to honor group policies needs to be done prior to sysprep.

Microsoft is starting to piss off software development. Another example is how driver signing is manual, may take hours, and is error prone. Clearly continous deployment is allowed internally for Microsoft with Windows.

 

[Jezbollah]

Hey, Windows 7 didn't have pop up ads for the newest MS browser or ads that let me know my browser of choice sucks. These new features are progress.

You're right. They learned their lessons from Windows XP that caused a huge amount of lawsuits due to anticompetitive practices from Microsoft

 

[Zepp Twofist]

If you get into the habit of turning off your pc when not in use, you should find it a lot less intrusive.

Why should you have to restart your workflow every single day because Microsoft refuses to make a reasonable update scheme? I don't think it's too much to ask that ten Microsoft engineers adapt the software a bit, instead of a billion people having to start using their computers differently.

The active hours thing is my main gripe in all of this. If there are only two updates released a month, why does Windows reserve 12 hours each day to perform them? That's 360 hours a month to do two updates. How is that reasonable?

 

[Khaz]

If you get into the habit of turning off your pc when not in use, you should find it a lot less intrusive.

You'd think updating Windows would simply be an end-of-day situation, where you finish your work, update-shutdown the computer and start the next day like every other day? Nope, updates have to be installed during startup, you better not be in a hurry the following morning.

 

[Mengy]

Yeah, the frequent updates requiring reboots is annoying. My biggest issue is that I need to unplug my USB peripherals every time it updates or the process gets stuck at the spinning dots after rebooting. It will literally spin those dots for days until I unplug my USB stuff. Super frustrating.

In some ways I really like Win10, but in many ways I miss Win7 too.

 

[Bluth54]

You'd think updating Windows would simply be an end-of-day situation, where you finish your work, update-shutdown the computer and start the next day like every other day? Nope, updates have to be installed during startup, you better not be in a hurry the following morning.

My guess is they changed that because stupid people were getting mad waiting for updates to install and forced shut down their computer with the power button which of course they can't do if they're waiting for the computer to start up but I could be wrong.

 

[The Albatross]

It's probably a good thing that it does this. Frustrating, but for the best.
My work has a system setup that installs updates usually over the weekend. It makes booting up on some Monday's a little slower than usual, but it's usually fine... And you just gotta remember to pause your VMs and check in your work on Friday.

Hey at least it doesnt forcefully restart your computer while you're working and you step away for 5 minutes, losing all of your unsaved work. That's fun.

They both do this.

What's more common on my Mac is that I have a sudo process running in the terminal that the installer can't close, it's closed every other app, and then when I end that process, the computer immediately restarts, and I have to wait ~20 minutes for the software to install instead of it doing it over night.

But w/e... Installing updates is never pleasant, and neither Windows nor Mac handle it elegantly because it isn't an elegant process.

 

[Dusk Soldier]

Why should you have to restart your workflow every single day because Microsoft refuses to make a reasonable update scheme? I don't think it's too much to ask that ten Microsoft engineers adapt the software a bit, instead of a billion people having to start using their computers differently.

The active hours thing is my main gripe in all of this. If there are only two updates released a month, why does Windows reserve 12 hours each day to perform them? That's 360 hours a month to do two updates. How is that reasonable?

It's not every single day. They release updates 2x a month on Tuesdays. And not all of them require a reboot.

You can also configure windows update to only install updates at set times, or never install them at all, and you can handle that manually.

 

[Dusk Soldier]

You'd think updating Windows would simply be an end-of-day situation, where you finish your work, update-shutdown the computer and start the next day like every other day? Nope, updates have to be installed during startup, you better not be in a hurry the following morning.

Yeah the installing updates at startup is annoying.

 

[Zepp Twofist]

It's not every single day. They release updates 2x a month on Tuesdays. And not all of them require a reboot.

I know that but it was in reply to the statement that people should restart their computer every day like you said they should.

My point is that Windows shouldn't need 360 hours of allocated time each month to do these updates. I should be able to set a few hours a week or even a month as my "inactive hours" instead of the system they have now where you need to set half the time that exists. My backup software allows me to allocate specific time windows to do stuff like this, and that is a way more time intensive operation than installing some updates.

They could have chosen something reasonable when they designed the "active hours" feature, but instead did something that probably inconveniences millions of people.

 

[Sky Chief]

Just want to reiterate that windows has always been pushy with updates. It's not by any means a new feature for windows 10.

Also, windows doesn't release new updates every other day. They release 2 updates a month. Always on tuesdays.

If you never turn off your computer, and you always try to delay the update. Then yes it can seem like it's always harassing you.

If you get into the habit of turning off your pc when not in use, you should find it a lot less intrusive.

On my Surface Book I get many more than two updates a month, this may be unique for Surface devices but it's more frequent than that. Just this week I've gotten two updates that restarted my PC.

 

[satriales]

What bothers me is that people buy these OS's and have no fucking idea on how to use them.

It's pretty simple to not have your PC restart after installing updates. The change would take you less time than it did to create yet another Windows 10 shit-on thread.

It should be simple but it's not. Maybe you haven't used the latest version of Windows 10 but MS are actively making it difficult to disable restarts and none of the links or suggestions in this thread work any more for my Win 10 Pro. In addition I have tried disabling the reboot task in task scheduler and tried creating a script to regularly adjust the active hours. The active hours script helped reduce restarts to once a week instead of daily but i've still not found a way to disable them completely.

 

[funkystudent]

Happened to me a few days ago.

Asked if I want to update now. I said ask later.

Some point later after in the day I leave my computer alone (and in sleep mode) and it rebooted and updates itself and I lost some unsaved work.



Yo fuck Windows 10.

 

[Lord Error]

They both do this.

OSX doesn't do this unless you change the setting to let it do it - setting which is not enabled by default (I'm fairly sure anyway), but even if it is, it's very easy to disable, and it never misbehaves once disabled.

 

[Agent_ShortBus]

This is the one thing that drives me crazy about W10. It seems like no matter how I set up automatic updates I am constantly having my computer restarted without my permission to perform updates and it causes all kinds of headaches. I'm trying to do some fucking work here, sorry I didn't finish before I went to bed MS. How can I just set it up to automatically download and install updates but not complete installation until I choose to restart just like every other fucking computing device I own?

EDIT: What makes matters worse is that there seems to be an update almost every other day lately

Go into services and disable auto updates. It started to bug me with the constant updates also.

 

[Kthulhu]

If you have W10 Pro you can turn them off.

Otherwise use active hours.

Or you know, shutdown and update every once and awhile instead of leaving your computer on 24/7.

 

[dpunk3]

Repairing computers everyday makes me hate this garbage. I work at a university, most of the time the computers come in because our network security agent won't allow the student's laptop to connect. Majority of the time it's because of updates not sticking or the laptop fucking up the update and having to do a complete reinstall of the OS. I hate it so much.

Personally I restart my laptop and desktop every night when I turn it off (the sound keeps me up anyway). But when the updates are asking for restarts immediately after the update is applied is fucking annoying. I have Pro and it still tells me "You need to restart you have about 15 mins." I thought you could at least postpone that shit.

 

[Nimajneb]

Or you know, shutdown and update every once and awhile instead of leaving your computer on 24/7.

I turn off my PC everyday, it doesn't help. Windows will restart whenever there's an update and you let it idle for 10 minutes, even if the machine has only been running an hour.

 

[Winterblink]

Yeah, the frequent updates requiring reboots is annoying. My biggest issue is that I need to unplug my USB peripherals every time it updates or the process gets stuck at the spinning dots after rebooting. It will literally spin those dots for days until I unplug my USB stuff. Super frustrating.

In some ways I really like Win10, but in many ways I miss Win7 too.

I had this problem. The way to resolve it is to find the USB hubs (these are logical hubs, not physical ones) in device manager and go into their properties, turn off the setting that automatically powers them down. What happens is when your PC shuts down, it's basically doing a kind of light hibernate to preserve stuff in memory so they launch faster the next time you restart. Your computer comes back up and thinks everything has been down long enough to reduce power consumption.

 

[XiaNaphryz]

Have you ever owned a surface? The fact that I was getting asked to reboot just about every 24 hrs made me punt Windows for forever. Never going back.

I've had a Surface Pro 4 since launch, and have had one for work the last couple of months. No issues with reboot prompts.

 

[petran79]

Windows 10 hasnt updated for over three weeks on my PC

 

[StrangeADT]

Just want to reiterate that windows has always been pushy with updates. It's not by any means a new feature for windows 10.

Also, windows doesn't release new updates every other day. They release 2 updates a month. Always on tuesdays.

If you never turn off your computer, and you always try to delay the update. Then yes it can seem like it's always harassing you.

If you get into the habit of turning off your pc when not in use, you should find it a lot less intrusive.

Screw this. I have background tasks running all the time on my PC and I often want to access it remotely. This new update bullshit that doesn't let me control the updates has lost them a Windows 10 purchase as I just purchased a new server for my basement and I can't be arsed to screw around with environment variables to disable Windows 10 updates, so Ubuntu it is.

 

[TheSeks]

Screw this. I have background tasks running all the time on my PC and I often want to access it remotely. This new update bullshit that doesn't let me control the updates has lost them a Windows 10 purchase as I just purchased a new server for my basement and I can't be arsed to screw around with environment variables to disable Windows 10 updates, so Ubuntu it is.

If you're running a server, I have no clue why you'd be running Windows in the first place. *NIX is servers for most folks.

I've had a Surface Pro 4 since launch, and have had one for work the last couple of months. No issues with reboot prompts.

Reboots will generally have the box in the corner for me. Most of the time (around 2PM) when I'm using it, I'll allow it to reboot since it's no big deal and the like 5 min restart time isn't a huge loss. But I can totally understand the frustrations folks have with the Daily Hours not being respected or being able to delay the update.

I recall the old Win7 (and 8.1 using it) update prompt that allowed you to postpone 15 mins, 30 mins, 1 hour, 4 hours, and next-day. I dunno why MS got rid of that.