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Why there's no Nier Remastered on sight?
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Dr. Black Jack
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There was a reprint a few years back and the game is fairly easy to find used, in the US at least.
sensui-tomo
Member
We have 3, possibly 4(Info characters returning from nier, a character that will be mentioned from Drakengard 3 and A big bad cult from Drakengard 1 has something to do with someone in nier automata. These are the things that we know from the TGS trailer.
In my opinion, just read some info dumps, watch a lets play on Nier .
In my opinion, just read some info dumps, watch a lets play on Nier .
Evolved1
make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
Lol. They needed to explain that better. That was confusing at first.
AlexFlame116
Member
...okay you have a valid point there. Had no idea what I was doing for 20 minutes.
AyyyyyyyMaybe you guys should have bought it the first time it came out.
Air Zombie Meat
Member
Honestly the demo's probably a better marketing tool.
RPGCrazied
Member
Would be nice, or at least PC. It hasn't aged well graphically with modern TV's out today. But the soundtrack is still godly.
hans_castorp
Member
The fishing minigame thing must be a meme at this point.
Both the NPC text and the minimap show you the spot to fish.
Both the NPC text and the minimap show you the spot to fish.
Evolved1
make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
Literally just adding AA and locking the fps at 60 would be enough.
This wouldn't release until long after Automata had earned the majority of its sales (seriously guys look at a calendar, a remaster would have no impact on Automata, coming so long after its release) and the fans who would buy this wouldn't have wild expectations. Just improving the resolution would go a long way.
Remasters aren't free, but they don't necessarily have to be huge overhauls either. Know your audience.
snow in jamaica
Member
It also proceeds automatically after a few failures with a little "x hours later" gag.
I thought it was an exclusive just because they chose not to release on Xbox One, not because they can't. I'm pretty sure I saw someone say it was still possible to come to Xbox One considering sales or something. I'd have to dig it up though.
Phantom edit:
^I initially read this on Dualshockers, but that's a banned site so here it is from GameRant (I've never heard of them, so skepticism is required admission).
This is what I thought. I guess they think it wouldn't sell enough to pay for the remaster. It has been a while and with a new entry coming out it feels like a good time for me, though.
I bought my copy just over a year ago for 40 bucks, but I didn't feel dumb on that because it was brand new sealed. I do feel a little dumb that I haven't even played it yet... :|
Lilalaunebaer
Member
Probably wouldn´t be worth it. It still costs money to make it. And since the original release literally didn´t sell at all, i´m not surprised.
That there is actual a sequel at all, is actually a miracle. Priests should actually start a pilgrimage to the Square Enix HG and be praying in front of it.
That there is actual a sequel at all, is actually a miracle. Priests should actually start a pilgrimage to the Square Enix HG and be praying in front of it.
Mr Fahrenheit
Member
I know after my experience with the first one I didn't have any intention of buying this game until playing the demo
Ragnar Blackmane
Member
According to people that played both versions, the Gestalt/Western version is the better one because Daddy Nier is a more believable character who fits into the story and character interactions better than Gestalt, who heavily relies on 'whiny young brother who constantly throws tantrums out of teen angst' anime archetypes/tropes.
Also the Daddy Nier Gestalt version released in Japan too, there is not one "original Japanese" version of the game (with both versions acknowledging each other in the Nightmare DLC).
This.
Evolved1
make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
I got the joke. I was responding to the underlying sentiment, which has been expressed by a number of folks in the thread.
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SkylineRKR
Member
Nier 1 remaster will hurt the sequel. Nier 1 is a flawed gem, but only to those who really invest in it. To the majority its just a bad looking adventure game with mediocre controls.
Ragnar Blackmane
Member
Please delete, double post.
shark sandwich
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Same. Nier has its charms but by and large wasn't very well received. Plus IMO those graphics would look like ass in 1080p.
Close, but AC Brotherhood hit 2010, not AC2.
It wasn't well received because game reviewers (showing the world just how far below movie reviewers they are) just judged it on graphics and being able to find a fishing mini game. It's picked up a large following since it came out due to word of mouth.
It would sell well. It didn't when it came out because there was no hype and we were lied to by game reviewers.
Ninja Scooter
Member
This seems totally reasonable.
Pinko Marx
Banned
Nier sold like ass. It was ugly even by last gen standards. The game was filled with tedious fetch quests and grinding. Combat was serviceable at best. Remastering it seems like a waste of money for any company(s) involved.
I say this as someone that loves it. But there was a lot of bullcrap to tolerate in order to reach the good bits.
I say this as someone that loves it. But there was a lot of bullcrap to tolerate in order to reach the good bits.
wild wild rice
Member
It's just not a good game. Luckily, Automata looks amazing.
Alex_Mexico
Member
It isnt getting remastered because it's a bad game
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This, pretty much.
And this is coming from someone who thinks Nier Automata looks positively amazing! I fucking loved the demo too!
And dont forget how the Japanese PS3 version of Nier had you playing as a scrawny younger pretty boy fighting to rescue his **ugh** little imouto (sister). It was for us filthy gaijin that they changed it to his daughter and made the main character older (and uglier).
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This, pretty much.
And this is coming from someone who thinks Nier Automata looks positively amazing! I fucking loved the demo too!
And dont forget how the Japanese PS3 version of Nier had you playing as a scrawny younger pretty boy fighting to rescue his **ugh** little imouto (sister). It was for us filthy gaijin that they changed it to his daughter and made the main character older (and uglier).
I love that Automata is getting more recognition to the point people are wanting the original Nier back.
I, personally, love the original Nier because of it's story, music and genre shifting, but it's still a game with a lot of issues and the connections between the original and Automata are slim at best. Beyond that, it also makes reference to some elements in the Drakengard series, which (apart from 3) are even worse to be played.
I guess the fear of having a remaster is having a lot of people that will love Automata hate the original because it's very, very different. If they were to do it, I would like to see the ending that was in Grimoire Nier (a book about the game) put into the game.
I, personally, love the original Nier because of it's story, music and genre shifting, but it's still a game with a lot of issues and the connections between the original and Automata are slim at best. Beyond that, it also makes reference to some elements in the Drakengard series, which (apart from 3) are even worse to be played.
I guess the fear of having a remaster is having a lot of people that will love Automata hate the original because it's very, very different. If they were to do it, I would like to see the ending that was in Grimoire Nier (a book about the game) put into the game.
The same reason why this game is not called "Nier 2". Previous Yoko taro games catered to niche audiences who generally put up with much bullshit to get to the juicy fucked up core.
This game is being sold on all of that stuff being taken out of the equation and replaced with Platinum esque gameplay sensibilities, good production values and a Yoko Taro story.
This is a completely new experience not predicated on playing the original game, even though having previous knowledge of the series and Drakengard is obviously a bonus.
You can go in to this game as a completely new IP, so why would they remaster a niche game from 6 years ago that was divided in its reception and generally is not for everybody?
Personally, i think we should just be lucky that we even got a new entree in the franchise at this point, a remaster may be a bridge too far.
This game is being sold on all of that stuff being taken out of the equation and replaced with Platinum esque gameplay sensibilities, good production values and a Yoko Taro story.
This is a completely new experience not predicated on playing the original game, even though having previous knowledge of the series and Drakengard is obviously a bonus.
You can go in to this game as a completely new IP, so why would they remaster a niche game from 6 years ago that was divided in its reception and generally is not for everybody?
Personally, i think we should just be lucky that we even got a new entree in the franchise at this point, a remaster may be a bridge too far.
I think this is key that remaster could actually serve as a potential drag on sales rather than an increase.
As Square says, if the sequel is a success then that increases our chances of seeing a remaster.
Between the fact that Nier 2 is made by P* because they themselfs are huge fans and asked SE to use the Nier IP and work with Yoko and them also announcing that multiple playthroughs will be required i wouldn't be so sure about that.
Yeah, I vastly preferred replicant instead of the ogre dad Nier. Brother Nier felt much more natural.
Add Drakengard 3 to that list, game really needs to be in 60 FPS or at least a solid locked 30 FPS throughout the whole entire game.
Caelestis
Member
As someone who played both versions I don't agree. Considering the extra story that also came from the book the brother character to me felt more tragic as he is someone weaker trying to protect his sister rather than a brute.
Generally speaking, i'm talking about the technical bullshit that is a result of Cavia/Access games and their low budgets and technical shortcomings, not the other stuff.
The fact of the matter is, this game is being sold on Platinum to newcomers, banking on the hope that people will come for the action and fluidity and stay for the Yoko Taro.
In execution, this concept could not be further from the previous game/s
Pinko Marx
Banned
We know outdated visuals and lackluster combat are gone at least. All the really remains to be seen are how side quests and the overworld are handled.
Not Spaceghost
Spaceghost
Is it really rare? I think I paid like 8 bucks for my copy?
This is complete non-sense.
I hope Nier never gets a remaster and stays as the cult classic which commands high prices online that it is 
It annoys me that many new people are only now interested in Nier to begin with because of Platinum, but its better this way now that i think about it.
Platinum games gets what might as well be a new IP under their belt, Yoko Taro gets to direct a game that isn't coded by a bunch of monkeys on a keyboard who got 100$ to make a game(no disrespect to Cavia) and consumers get a good product as well(hopefully)
Are you really disagreeing with the mind set that Nier Automata is being developed with all the technical and budgetary bullshit being taken out? I'd say its hard to argue.
It annoys me that many new people are only now interested in Nier to begin with because of Platinum, but its better this way now that i think about it.
Platinum games gets what might as well be a new IP under their belt, Yoko Taro gets to direct a game that isn't coded by a bunch of monkeys on a keyboard who got 100$ to make a game(no disrespect to Cavia) and consumers get a good product as well(hopefully)
Are you really disagreeing with the mind set that Nier Automata is being developed with all the technical and budgetary bullshit being taken out? I'd say its hard to argue.
I think it'll be a satisfying number because it appears to have a tremendous amount of hype and I expect it to be excellent. Potentially even better than the original, which I consider it to be one of the best games of the last generation.
Is there any question Nier has gained in popularity since it's release? I only played it very recently because of the massive amount of praise it was getting online. I don't remember hearing much talk about it when it came out. I'm actually angry at game reviewers for almost causing me to miss out on it.
Pinko Marx
Banned
I don't think it's rare. I had no problem ordering a used copy online about a year ago.
MillionStabs
Banned
It's the greatest game that no one bought, and I don't think they wanna waste resources on remastering it.
Also its rare? I got a used PS3 copy at Gamestop for like 10$ in March this year
Also its rare? I got a used PS3 copy at Gamestop for like 10$ in March this year
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