So all laws against any crime are ineffective since the crimes will still occur?
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Wife discovers husband is a Reddit troll, issues ultimatum
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So all laws against any crime are ineffective since the crimes will still occur?
You could say the same about racism, but that's not a good reason to throw our hands in the air and say "oh well, there's nothing to be done."
Bobby Roberts
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This is, so far as I understand it, the prevailing argument against gun control
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Deleted member 13876
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Seems to be almost exact mindset of the husband.
"It's not real and the people affected by it should act like it's just a tv show unrelated to them, so it's their fault if their mental state deteriorates because of it."
MWS Natural
Member
You make a good point but clearly Troll Culture is the real reason behind this.
This guy sounds like it has bigger issues at hand than anything.
I don't necessarily disagree with the online toughness. I feel people need to be effectively taught, especially our children, not to be phased by online bullying or trolling and knowing how to assess it rather than taking it so literally. Assholes on the internet are ALWAYS full of shit, and they know they're full of shit, just like the husband in the OP.
In inverse, I also feel like internet etiquette needs to be reinforced. This goes both ways really.
But to outright put a halt to a happy marriage and life because your wife wants you to stop being a dick to others? Come on. Just...why?
There's some deep seated issues there imo.
I don't necessarily disagree with the online toughness. I feel people need to be effectively taught, especially our children, not to be phased by online bullying or trolling and knowing how to assess it rather than taking it so literally. Assholes on the internet are ALWAYS full of shit, and they know they're full of shit, just like the husband in the OP.
In inverse, I also feel like internet etiquette needs to be reinforced. This goes both ways really.
But to outright put a halt to a happy marriage and life because your wife wants you to stop being a dick to others? Come on. Just...why?
There's some deep seated issues there imo.
LegendofLex
Member
To be fair, the prevailing argument against gun control goes more like "if criminals can still illegally obtain guns, taking guns out of the hands of innocents leaves them unprotected and leads to higher crime."
Of course, I think that's absurd - the more we do to remove the idea that guns are the answer to anything, the better off we'll be.
Sure, they do need to be taught this. But that doesn't remove our responsibility to teach people not to bully, and to attempt to correct bad behavior when we discover it, and in particular to protect people for whom the lesson doesn't sink in (since it rarely happens by choice).
Y'know, finding out that your spouse regularly tells children to kill themselves when you have a child on the way seems like really fucking big deal breaker to me.
EDIT: Wow, I completely misread that. Sorry!
BeatResetsTheWorld
Banned
Being an asshole isn't a mental illness
LegendofLex
Member
Eh, in the same way that people can't help that they take mean things seriously, some people really do have the impulse to say mean things. That's definitely a deeper problem than intentionally being an asshole, and should be seen as something to be treated/corrected/remediated and not just condemned. Certainly doesn't suddenly make them a suitable partner or parent, though.
I have so much respect for this woman. I think her position is totally in the right. I would not want to spend my life with someone who thought being that way was in any way acceptable.
Unless she is trolling but I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt here. Sounds like a very believable scenario to me.
Unless she is trolling but I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt here. Sounds like a very believable scenario to me.
Dreams-Visions
Member
It's only sad that he didn't reveal this part of himself to her before she committed to being with him.
He's really beyond pathetic.
You misunderstood I never said anything about lowering the number of cases no, no I simply made the point you can never completely stop it. If laws are so effective that they stop all crime than why are there people in jail? Of course laws help to reduce somethings but it never truly stops anything.
Not saying laws are bad or ineffective.they're just the only solutions we can think of to a problem without an answer.
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Deleted member 13876
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If a random asshole is telling you to kill yourself or making a direct threat to your life and dressing the threat up with some personal details they found via other social media stuff, it's not an abnormal reaction to be freaked out.
Man, you have some of the best comparisons. Basically nuked the husband defense from orbit.
People like you are scum of the earth and enable these psychos to continue acting the way they do on the internet. This reddit post doesn't need to be real. There are a faction that do this everyday because they view everyone else as subhuman and when I was younger and tried asking them why they do this they gave the exact same reasons you did.
They can DIAF and so can you.
Epsilon-delta
Banned
It is disingenuous to tell others what views hold no weight or substance when they are victims of cyberbullying. Not everyone has thick skin, nor everyone should have to develop thick skin in the first place.
Being quiet or turning a blind eye doesn't solve the root issue. Most likely, ignoring spiteful or harmful remarks from trolls only reinforces their actions.
While I understand where you are coming from, I'd advise you edit your post.
It is not acceptable to tell another GAF member to die in a fire, and it comes of as rather hypocritical when that is the exact behavior we are condemning here.
Attack the argument, not the person.
John Kowalski
Banned
No, but it is a symptom.
blame space
Banned
My Spouse is a Troll on NeoGAF.com
Zomba13
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Doesn't mean we have to give up and deal with it(.jpg). If we can do something about it we should and of course the starting point is not doing it ourselves (it's very easy not to be an utter asshole online or in life). In regards to crimes and laws, yeah, even if something is made illegal people will still do the thing either because they think they can get away with it or they don't care about the consequences. Having the laws or preventative measures dissuade people from doing the thing and help you focus on the people that would do the thing anyway.
We will never stop bullying or war or murder or piracy or stealing or racism but we can try our best not to do it and to stop others from doing it either by punishment and rehabilitation or by explaining to them the consequences of their actions and why it would be wrong to do it.
This is a societal problem. Fuckwadism wouldn't be a hot topic if it was the opposite.
that tool of a husband has really set the bar for a whole new level of pathetic.
imagine if he already had a child, a preteen daughter with a tumblr of her own, and he'd been cyberbullying her without even knowing it was his own daughter until the harassment took its toll and she offed herself
How do you figure?
LegendofLex
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I think that's kind of the idea behind leaving him, yes?
I hate responses like this. How is the wife in any way a moron?
Not really?
CapNBritain
Member
Some members of #teamhusband can't seem to understand why the wife would contemplate ending a 9 year relationship/marriage over this, when it's really quite simple. If you no longer respect the person you're with, why would you stay with them? Do people really still advocate staying with someone just because they're already together? Surely there is a line that would cause you to end the relationship. Maybe you're line isn't "he's a cyber bully" it's "he's a serial killer" but there is always a line. What you're really arguing is whether or not you think her drawing the line at cyber bullying is "valid."
This post really bothers me. It's not only saying that the wife shouldn't have drawn the line at cyber bullying, it's essentially saying that you should never have a line. That everyone has faults and you just take what you get. I don't accept that. I make sure that my friends and loved ones are (what I consider to be) good people. If one of them says racist things, is a misogynist, or is a cyber-bully,I don't spend time with them. No one is perfect, but that doesn't mean you can't have personal standards. Everyone can and should.
This post really bothers me. It's not only saying that the wife shouldn't have drawn the line at cyber bullying, it's essentially saying that you should never have a line. That everyone has faults and you just take what you get. I don't accept that. I make sure that my friends and loved ones are (what I consider to be) good people. If one of them says racist things, is a misogynist, or is a cyber-bully,I don't spend time with them. No one is perfect, but that doesn't mean you can't have personal standards. Everyone can and should.
oh of course, i'd hope so. i was just saying
LegendofLex
Member
Just reiterating the point for those who seem to think that what happens on the Internet shouldn't be a red flag for a marriage.
Fenderputty
Banned
I find if hard to believe that this behavior is a newer manifestation. Am I not the only person who thinks a relationship that's had three fights in nine years seems a little stale too? Seems liked she's obvlivious and married the facade of a man.
I would leave if I were her too though. Dudes a fuckin' headcase.
I would leave if I were her too though. Dudes a fuckin' headcase.
It just seems like the guy's a big manchild, honestly.
Eh...she's willing to give up her husband, who been a saint and good man to her cause he is an asshole online? Seems silly to me. Or made up.
The Librarian
Banned
Harassment is still harassment. And I say that who's received similar harassment recently.
So yeah, the wife is entirely in the right.
Epsilon-delta
Banned
Yeah, she's willing to leave her husband that goes online to tell teenage girls to kill themselves when he himself is expecting a daughter.
Yup, seems rather silly.
I think I see it like this. If a person is willing to treat someone like shit, then he or she is capable of doing that to you - you know, the guy justifies it however he can, but who's to say in some moment of anger he might do the same to his wife or his kid. Obviously this sort of idea only goes so far, but I mean if he actively does this and defends his actions, it's not a very good sign for the sort of guy he is.
You are saying what he does is not illegal... your wrong. He is harrassing. And a good lawyer can make a case out of it.
block tower
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somehow this is always what i imagined trolls would be in real life, pathetic grown ass men doing childish things because they can't communicate in real life to other people about their problems. good for her leaving this loser.
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