PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
I always said I'll buy the systems that let me play Mario, Zelda, Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, and GTA (added since Vice City). Looks like I could be one title away from eliminating a second console this generation. 
A 4670 would struggle at 1080p, you'd need at least a 4870 if you want 1080p to be the standard resolution for the Wii 2.antonz said:The extreme low end of the R700 family is well below 360 specs. They are way too primitive even coming in an AGP variety still. 4670 is likely the lowest they would go and that would be a modest 2x performance boost over the 360
Vinci said:You know how you cultivate an audience on a console? By consistently releasing things on it. Not 'testing' it. Not 'trying it out.' Not 'giving it the old college try.' It's by consistently putting content on the system. Period. How the hell did the PS3 get to where it is? It didn't sell exceedingly well at first, especially compared to the 360. But it got there eventually, and now games sell pretty well on the thing.
That's how you do it.
EDIT: Seriously, why would any 3rd party want to ignore a system by Nintendo that they can easily port to after this generation? Why take the chance on not having access to something that could potentially be another market leader?
Amir0x said:it's so depressing that refinement is negative, and bullshit distractions made to "woo" E3 attendees is apparently the ideal to shoot for.
Well, hey, they have a "surprise" we don't know about - maybe the controller will shoot out elephant milk. That'd be something, wouldn't it? Wouldn't do shit all for games, but hell, who cares about that as long as E3 attendees and their ADHD-addled freak associates are temporarily distracted enough to write extremely effusive articles about how it will CHANGE EVERYTHING.
Opus Angelorum said:Anyone else expecting something from Bungie? That would raise a few eyebrows.
liger05 said:How dope is Nintendo at E3 going to be? Project cafe and 3DS goodness. Cant wait to see this shit.
I know. At this point it is sounding like Nintendo may have 2 awesome E3's in a row. Is that even legal?liger05 said:How dope is Nintendo at E3 going to be? Project cafe and 3DS goodness. Cant wait to see this shit.
liger05 said:How dope is Nintendo at E3 going to be? Project cafe and 3DS goodness. Cant wait to see this shit.
ghst said:a cast-iron commitment to 1080p/60hz would be the biggest surprise a console manufacturer could make to me at this point.
For some people the current console set-up is fine, they see the 360 controller (with a better dpad) as the evolution endpoint for interaction with games and see games as a well established medium and so all they want is for games to have improvements in already established technology, graphics, physics, AI, animation etc. Others want to see a paradigm shift and to see experimentation into what sometimes will be dead-ends, other times will produce something new and interesting. Motion controls are somewhat 'ordinary' now, but they hinted at a unique direction for games, a physical interaction beyond pressing buttons, a fuzzier, less x=y type of input in a similar way to the focus on physics in HL2.Amir0x said:it's so depressing that refinement is negative, and bullshit distractions made to "woo" E3 attendees is apparently the ideal to shoot for.
Well, hey, they have a "surprise" we don't know about - maybe the controller will shoot out elephant milk. That'd be something, wouldn't it? Wouldn't do shit all for games, but hell, who cares about that as long as E3 attendees and their ADHD-addled freak associates are temporarily distracted enough to write extremely effusive articles about how it will CHANGE EVERYTHING.
From The Dust said:tell that to Ubisoft. after the sucess of Red Steel, they should have quickly followed up with Red Steel 2. instead they wait 4 years when the public stopped caring
Fantastical said:So it makes the most sense to launch this in Spring - Summer 2012, right? Revealing your hand and then launching the system more than a year after the reveal seems like a very strange move. Has that ever happened?
So excited to see what they have playable at E3. HD Nintendo games OMG.
1-D_FTW said:See Insomniac for Exhibit A. And they even believed it in for longer than most.
yes. THIS.Fantastical said:HD Nintendo games OMG.
Assassin's Creed 2 port with super duper live minimap on controller screenJ-Rock said:I cringe at the thought of Ubisoft launch games on this thing.
Vinci said:Um... Cafe is not the Wii. I agree with your comment, but I don't think it's applicable to the likely situation we'll be facing with this system.
Hmmm... in America? or in Japan as well? Is this because it won't be launched in the fiscal year?From The Dust said:it's going to miss the springtime as it won't launch before the end of April
Always-honest said:yes. THIS.
And mofo PIKMIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
From The Dust said:I know. but it's the most prominet example in my mind. whethr there will be another situation like that is on third parties' hands.
Yeah I think 4770 is the minimum they would go if they want to future proof even a little bit. The 4x performance boost would put them in good positioning for next gen even if they arent neck and neck with the others.Mr_Brit said:A 4670 would struggle at 1080p, you'd need at least a 4870 if you want 1080p to be the standard resolution for the Wii 2.
Fantastical said:Hmmm... in America? or in Japan as well? Is this because it won't be launched in the fiscal year?
Vinci said:Seriously, they'd have to be utterly, just stupendously ignorant to not force a presence onto a Nintendo system again. Especially one this potentially powerful.
From The Dust said:tell that to Ubisoft. after the sucess of Red Steel, they should have quickly followed up with Red Steel 2. instead they wait 4 years when the public stopped caring
brochiller said:I'd take virtual hats over virtual points any day.
Fernando Rocker said:I want Nintendo to release a machine that is capable of make Amir0x say: "Oh, sweet mother of God... it's beautiful!"
From The Dust said:I'm going to keep my expectations low and keep my PC close. just in case
From The Dust said:tell that to Ubisoft. after the sucess of Red Steel, they should have quickly followed up with Red Steel 2. instead they wait 4 years when the public stopped caring
Mr_Brit said:A 4670 would struggle at 1080p, you'd need at least a 4870 if you want 1080p to be the standard resolution for the Wii 2.
joedick said:I think the fact that the first one wasn't very good has more to do with why people ignored the second.
You'll never ever have this, unfortunately. 30fps upscaled 720p won't be a problem for most users (they probably won't even notice), and that allow for four times more things or screen, possibly even more... The bells'n whistle will always win this fight.Boerseun said:The new console would need 1080p at a constant 60 fps as a visual standard.
You know they are going to say it.Man said:PS! Sony re-iterating the streaming and remote-play capabilities from PS3-to-PSP/NGP and how it has been done for six years is practically the most assured thing at this years E3 in light of these rumors.
Please don't mention it, you're making me sick...J-Rock said:I cringe at the thought of Ubisoft launch games on this thing.
i wouldn´t mind a new Rainbow Six game..Vic said:Please don't mention it, you're making me sick...
I have been saying it for agesChittagong said:Crazy times. Who thought just some two weeks ago that we are a mere two months away from playing Nintendo's next generation console?
Vic said:Please don't mention it, you're making me sick...
Always-honest said:i wouldn´t mind a new Rainbow Six game..
Amir0x said:Not that hard.
Three, creating a slate of NEW hardcore IPs INTERNALLY DEVELOPED with the budget and marketing of a Zelda or Mario game. I'm so tired of their franchise abuse.
Well, I guess they could port that Gameloft tablet title to the download store.Always-honest said:i wouldn´t mind a new Rainbow Six game..
It will probably be Rainbox Six Vegas Collection.Always-honest said:i wouldn´t mind a new Rainbow Six game..