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[Htown]

You know Australia? Yeah... they've just got Trauma Center. Motherfucking Trauma Center. Shit like this happens all the damn time, there are still loads of games in the US which aren't in Europe and/or Australia.

Boo hoo.

EVERY TERRITORY has to wait for something. Some stuff comes out in Japan we have to wait for in America. Some stuff comes out in America or Europe they have to wait for in Japan. Because that's what happens when you have to localize games.

Nobody whines about it as much as PAL gamers, though.

OH NO! Nintendo updates their system to get rid of hacks! THOSE BASTARDS!

 

[Caesar III]

God dammit I hate it when people think they know shit and don't. There's nothing illegal about the Freeloader at the very least. It does not enable piracy, nor is it illegal to be sell. If you live in the US, good for you, but a lot of other Wii fans don't get the damn luxuries you do. Paying at higher costs is something we're used to, but never getting games, or getting games months to, quite literally, years later is bullshit we shouldn't have to deal with.

It makes exactly no difference in price to buy an US Wii and to import ALL your games.

 

[TunaLover]

I have an idea, people who has freeloader don´t update their Wiis!

 

[Death_Born]

REPENT, FREELOADERS

THE LONG ARM OF THE WII IS UPON YOU

IF YOU SURRENDER TO THE UPDATE YOU WILL NOT BE DESTROYED

 

[TunaLover]

You know, I'm currently kicking myself for getting a stupid NTSC/US Wii instead of a JPN one. You really ought to just get a US Wii, I'm sure someone here can help you on finding one at reasonable cost.

And I'll continue to pursue the idea of getting a JPN Wii...

You know
If it wasn´t for my limited Japanese language knowledge, I would pick a Jap Wii too.

 

[itxaka]

Boo hoo.

EVERY TERRITORY has to wait for something. Some stuff comes out in Japan we have to wait for in America. Some stuff comes out in America or Europe they have to wait for in Japan. Because that's what happens when you have to localize games.

Nobody whines about it as much as PAL gamers, though.

OH NO! Nintendo updates their system to get rid of hacks! THOSE BASTARDS!

Seriously guys, stop this stupid nosense. Zack and wiki was released 7 months later in europe, even when the japanese version WAS ALREADY TRANSLATED and complete. SSBX? go figure.

It´s not a simply "buy and american one AND GET NO WARRANTY FOR YOUR CONSOLE", it´s also buy online every fucking game and wait for them, deal with lost packets, customs all the fucking time.

You can argue that you have to wait, but how much in comparation with PAL territories? And don´t get me started on the Australian rape.

Oh, almost forget, the issue of people selling US wii for double their price for almost one year it hasn´t help people to import them you know.

 

[Dragona Akehi]

We ought to start a GAF Fund in which PAL gamers are able to request for certain items and pay a reasonable rate for hard-to-find items like a Wii...

Hmmm....

 

[JaseMath]

Jesus fucking Chirst...when is Nintendo going to release an update that does something useful. 0_0

 

[HUELEN10]

Jesus fucking Chirst...when is Nintendo going to release an update that does something useful. 0_0

Whenever they make a storage solution silly!

 

[legend166]

The issue of the warranty is the reason I didn't import a US Wii. I can't afford to replace it if it breaks.

 

[TunaLover]

Jesus fucking Chirst...when is Nintendo going to release an update that does something useful. 0_0

Blue halo says hi!

 

[TunaLover]

The issue of the warranty is the reason I didn't import a US Wii. I can't afford to replace it if it breaks.

How long last the warranty anyway? Mine last three months, Wii is a fair stable console, you could be problems with driver but way months later (which is normal considering lens useful life).

 

[mugwhump]

There'll be a new savefile hack. I don't think it's actually possible to perfectly detect hacked savefiles...

 

[Caesar III]

It´s not a simply "buy and american one AND GET NO WARRANTY FOR YOUR CONSOLE",

It is that simple! fuck the warranty! I bought a japanese DS on release, except the drained battery all is fine.

it´s also buy online every fucking game and wait for them

If you choose the cheapest sending option it is like 3 weeks. So 3 weeks after America is far better than your stated 7 months, isn't it?

deal with lost packets, customs all the fucking time.

lol, just pay some bucks more and get secured mailing. It is cheaper than buying in Europe! I own 2 times the DS gams from playasia than pal ones and I never got a package lost. (without secured mailing)

Oh, almost forget, the issue of people selling US wii for double their price for almost one year it hasn´t help people to import them you know.

Even if you pay nearly double the price, lets say 450$. This isn't that far away from 250€! You also can save money by buying their games for 10€ cheaper each.

If you really want to and if you would really care, you would stop whining and just jump in!

 

[batbeg]

How long last the warranty anyway? Mine last three months, Wii is a fair stable console, you could be problems with driver but way months later (which is normal considering lens useful life).

I've had 2 Wii's mess up, both in their first few months Mine and my little brother's both had to get repairs. I know I'm not in the norm here, but I'm sure as hell never importing a home console.

That said, I don't import many games anyway, even with the freeloader. I was simply pointing out someone who once more wrongly thought it was illegal to use a freeloader. I hate the delays, but honestly I have enough games to play because I can't afford many anyway.

I'm just amazed at people who criminalize whining Euro GAFers... I mean, seriously, Nintendo are without a doubt the worst of the three first parties at getting their shit together as far as a worldwide market is concerned.

 

[DDayton]

Maybe a Gaffer can help us out, all the online stores want crazy markup but if someone found one for the $249 + plus a little for their trouble I would pay for it and the postage.

We ought to start a GAF Fund in which PAL gamers are able to request for certain items and pay a reasonable rate for hard-to-find items like a Wii...

Hmmm....

I'd be perfectly willing to buy U.S. Wiis or games and ship them to Europeans. I've actually stumbled across a few Wii "in the wild" in the past month.

If I knew I was actually going to be reimbursed, I'd gladly buy & ship. All I might ask for in return is the occasional gift/sale of Euro games that weren't released in the USA.

 

[WiiRevolution1]

wow...when I finished updating I checked out the new Mii Channel feature...and when I entered it said "This feature is for storing more than 100 Miis,"

(100 on your Wii plus more stored online to get anytime)

So I thought it was a pretty cool feature so I tested it out...and apparantly you have to search your Mii Parade for that mii!

Y0ou cant just choose "Retreive Mii" or something and view a list of stored Miis...and having almost 3000 Miis in my Parade makes it very hard to find that Mii :lol

Also: Sorry to those who enjoyed the Hack. I never cared for hacking but I knjow alot of yall did so sorry you lost...

 

[HUELEN10]

I'd be perfectly willing to buy U.S. Wiis or games and ship them to Europeans. I've actually stumbled across a few Wii "in the wild" in the past month.

If I knew I was actually going to be reimbursed, I'd gladly buy & ship. All I might ask for in return is the occasional gift/sale of Euro games that weren't released in the USA.

Count me in on this as well.

 

[mugwhump]

Oh lawl, this doesn't even check all savefiles to see if they're hacked. Looks like it might only check for the twilight hack. So it's just a stopgap measure...

 

[D.Lo]

We ought to start a GAF Fund in which PAL gamers are able to request for certain items and pay a reasonable rate for hard-to-find items like a Wii...

Hmmm....

I wouuld support such a scheme - would need some moderation though. I would also be happy to send any NTSC gamers US$90 PAL copies if they so wish.

The issue of the warranty is the reason I didn't import a US Wii. I can't afford to replace it if it breaks.

Yeah, friends who imported PSPs (as it came out nine months later here) that had dead pixels were left in the lurch, and dead Wii disc drives would be a pain.

There'll be a new savefile hack. I don't think it's actually possible to perfectly detect hacked savefiles...

Exactly, there'll be a way around it. It will just be a bit of to-and-fro, ala PSP pre-Pandora.

 

[consoul]

Can we get some confirmation on Freeloader being a coaster after the update?

Anyone?

 

[Jucksalbe]

Okay, haven't read the thread before, updated, and there it is. Fuck you, Nintendo!
The freeloader doesn't work anymore, at all! The freeloader disc doesn't even load it just gives you some kind of error message. :-(

 

[consoul]

Goddamnit.
Well that's a kick in the nuts.

 

[cordonbleu]

I knew the minute that SNES emulator thingy hit, that Homebrew would be stomped on by Nintendo. Its really not a surprise.

Heres hoping theres also a stealth addition that is going to revolve around storage, making Wiis compliant with something Nintendo may have up its sleeve for E3.

 

[thetrin]

MS and Sony continue to promote/tolerate region free releases. Meanwhile, Nintendo tries it's best to do THE EXACT FUCKING OPPOSITE.

Honestly, Nintendo. Don't be retarded.

 

[HUELEN10]

Okay, haven't read the thread before, updated, and there it is. Fuck you, Nintendo!
The freeloader doesn't work anymore, at all! The freeloader disc doesn't even load it just gives you some kind of error message. :-(

Pictures, video, or a detailed description would help a LOT.

 

[HUELEN10]

I knew the minute that SNES emulator thingy hit, that Homebrew would be stomped on by Nintendo. Its really not a surprise.

Heres hoping theres also a stealth addition that is going to revolve around storage, making Wiis compliant with something Nintendo may have up its sleeve for E3.

I yearn for getting rid of the channel cap and external storage! I YEARN.

 

[santouras]

Nobody whines about it as much as PAL gamers, though.

I think what irritates pal gamers most, well me for sure, is the crazy markup we have to pay for our games. Wii games retail for what, 50 USD? At the current exchange rate that is $53 AUD, yet the cheapest I can find any wii games (and this is generally first party only) is about $75. Normal price is $100, and I've even seen some sell for $110. I can understand a little increase in price to cover currency fluctuation and the extra shipping to AU, but the current price for games here is beyond insane. I love DS, because I can import games from play asia, WITH shipping, for up to $30 CHEAPER than going into a shop and buying it.

I really couldn't be bothered about release dates, I have enough to play to keep me from getting bored, but the insane prices really really annoy me.

 

[CoilShot]

I'm not even sure if I should update now because I was planning on using the freeloader sooner or later

 

[Visualante]

bLAH BALAHD BLADH WARRANTY WARRANTY WARRANTY.

Just import the damn console.

 

[VOOK]

I'd be perfectly willing to buy U.S. Wiis or games and ship them to Europeans. I've actually stumbled across a few Wii "in the wild" in the past month.

If I knew I was actually going to be reimbursed, I'd gladly buy & ship. All I might ask for in return is the occasional gift/sale of Euro games that weren't released in the USA.

Sounds good, but why you would want our price inflated games.

 

[HUELEN10]

I'm not even sure if I should update now because I was planning on using the freeloader sooner or later

If the game is also coming later, the update will probably be on the disc itself and you would probably be screwed regardless.

 

[Jucksalbe]

Pictures, video, or a detailed description would help a LOT.

If it really helps...

First picture is when you put the freeloader disc in while the wii is already running. It just checks the disc and then immediately gives that message:
http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm290/Jucksalbe/Normal.jpg

Second picture is when you start the wii with the freeloader disc already inserted:
http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm290/Jucksalbe/WiiStartUp.jpg

And sadly, that update didn't corrupt my firmware, all other games are working just fine.

 

[itxaka]

It is that simple! fuck the warranty! I bought a japanese DS on release, except the drained battery all is fine.

yeah, I also bougth overseas consoles before, and guess what? exactly. I was left with no console and no money.

If you choose the cheapest sending option it is like 3 weeks. So 3 weeks after America is far better than your stated 7 months, isn't it?

You also have to wait for worldwide releases when with a region free console you dont. You buy local (or even from uk as it´s cheaper) and when games are released 7 months later you already order them. I don´t give a fuck about them arriving 3 weeks later but I do when I try to sell games in order to get others and I cannot because they are NTSC. I prefer to have a nice 60% PAL in order to change them for others and not to have a 100% NTSC games that nobody wants.

lol, just pay some bucks more and get secured mailing. It is cheaper than buying in Europe! I own 2 times the DS gams from playasia than pal ones and I never got a package lost. (without secured mailing)

Yeah, customs here are bastards, the shop has to put always "Present" or a really low value like 20€, and sometimes they even open them and you are fucked.

Even if you pay nearly double the price, lets say 450$. This isn't that far away from 250€! You also can save money by buying their games for 10€ cheaper each.

Yeah, well I should have think it before, I´m not gonna have two wii´s now. Plus I´m getting a new one after mine overheated and thanks to god, the guarantee is 2 fucking years.

If you really want to and if you would really care, you would stop whining and just jump in!

This I can´t believe, Pal gamers are always raped with everything, plus we have to get no comprehension for usa/jap gamers?

Instead of pointing us, the pal users, you should point Nintendo for doing stupid things.

bLAH BALAHD BLADH WARRANTY WARRANTY WARRANTY.

Just import the damn console.

I hope that someday you import a new, shiny console of about 400$ and gets broken, I expect you to whine then. Karma is a bitch.

 

[Speevy]

Haha, you know it would be very easy for Nintendo to make an update that doesn't allow anything unauthorized on the channel menu.

 

[Nuclear Muffin]

About time Nintendo fixed the problem, they've been holding back this update for ages!

:lol @ everyone in this thread who's scared to update their Wii because of all the pirated games they have on their system.

 

[HUELEN10]

If it really helps...

First picture is when you put the freeloader disc in while the wii is already running. It just checks the disc and then immediately gives that message:
http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm290/Jucksalbe/Normal.jpg

Second picture is when you start the wii with the freeloader disc already inserted:
http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm290/Jucksalbe/WiiStartUp.jpg

And sadly, that update didn't corrupt my firmware, all other games are working just fine.

Updated. Thanks.

 

[NotWii]

It's good that this exploit was patched, now homebrewers can concentrate on finding a way to sign channels legitimately so they can be installed simply by copying from SD cards.

Then we'll be cooking with gas and the homebrew will be UNSTOPPABLE!

 

[HUELEN10]

It's good that this exploit was patched, now homebrewers can concentrate on finding a way to sign channels legitimately so they can be installed simply by copying from SD cards.

Then we'll be cooking with gas and the homebrew will be UNSTOPPABLE!

I just wish they would work on somehow uncapping the channel limit and work on getting Shop Channel items YOU BOUGHT on the menu, booted through external storage, without a worry on storage or channel cap limits.

 

[Burli]

About time Nintendo fixed the problem, they've been holding back this update for ages!

:lol @ everyone in this thread who's scared to update their Wii because of all the pirated games they have on their system.

Yes, everyone in this thread is just bursting at the seams with pirated games.

.. Jesus.

 

[NotWii]

Do they let you navigate the Wii Menu with the Wiimote's D-Pad or GC Controller yet?

 

[HUELEN10]

Do they let you navigate the Wii Menu with the Wiimote's D-Pad or GC Controller yet?

Nope, but the CC's left stick still works!

 

[NotWii]

Nope, but the CC's left stick still works!

That is so stupid, do Nintendo even play their own games?!

Sometimes I don't bother playing SSBB or GCN games because I have to switch controllers everytime.

 

[tabsina]

Do they let you navigate the Wii Menu with the Wiimote's D-Pad or GC Controller yet?

i understand GC controller.. but how is d-pad more convenient/easier than just pointing at the screen

 

[HUELEN10]

That is so stupid, do Nintendo even play their own games?!

Sometimes I don't bother playing SSBB or GCN games because I have to switch controllers everytime.

Why not just play Brawl with the classic (It happens to be my controller of choice, though I know it ain't that popular) controller?

 

[JonathanEx]

There'll be a new savefile hack. I don't think it's actually possible to perfectly detect hacked savefiles...

The new update looks specifically in the Twilight Princess save file:

Update 3: They wrote a special-purpose function to try to check for the exact exploit we used — specifically, if a savegame is for Zelda, it checks the length of 6 strings inside the savefile (two of which are the player name and horse name). It repeats this check for all 3 saveslots, and then another three times for all 3 backup slots.

so it's highly possible that the Twilight Hack can just become a hack for another game. The trucha signing or whatever is another issue.

 

[Vinnk]

Maybe a Gaffer can help us out, all the online stores want crazy markup but if someone found one for the $249 + plus a little for their trouble I would pay for it and the postage.

I could help you out. PM me.

 

[Stryder]

Fuck I think I've already installed this update.

 

[HUELEN10]

Fuck I think I've already installed this update.

Go to the Wii Settings and check then.

 

[Stryder]

Go to the Wii Settings and check then.

I'll do that once I get home.