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[titiklabingapat]

If N can successfully move into China- even a little bit- then I feel Wii has a legitimate chance of dethroning the PS2.

You mean the Vii?

Oh, and Wii's are going up in prices on both Amazon and eBay.

 

[Gahiggidy]

Indeed, as i said they should be able to realistically ship 7.5 million systems from november to december.

If that's true, I'd estimate they'll ship 60% of that to "the Americas"... or 55% to the U.S. Assume a 40/60 breakdown between Nov/Dec... that gives an NPD of...


1,650,000 for November.
2,475,000 for December.


^^^
Scared yet, xbots?

 

[Angry Grimace]

As cool as I feed for owning Wii, it sure would be cool if some actual Wii games were good, as oppose to Virtual Console games.

 

[Xzbeat]

Sales of the Wii, which began selling in Europe in December 2006, rose about 50 percent in the three months ended Sept. 30 to 1.54 million, Nintendo said in a statement today.

They sold 500K consoles per month in Europe from July to September. Looks like Japan is their weakest market.

 

[taconinja]

As cool as I feed for owning Wii, it sure would be cool if some actual Wii games were good, as oppose to Virtual Console games.

I like RE4, Metroid Prime 3, Excite Truck, and Super Paper Mario. Have you tried these?

 

[[Nintex]]

As cool as I feed for owning Wii, it sure would be cool if some actual Wii games were good, as oppose to Virtual Console games.

Metroid Prime 3: Corruption kicks you in the nuts together with Super Mario Galaxy.

 

[gcfan2k5]

If that's true, I'd estimate they'll ship 60% of that to "the Americas"... or 55% to the U.S. Assume a 40/60 breakdown between Nov/Dec... that gives an NPD of...


1,650,000 for November.
2,475,000 for December.


^^^
Scared yet, xbots?

Its entirely possible, though i would place my bets on 900k november and ~3 million december (doesnt galaxy hit in LATE november?)

 

[TheKingsCrown]

Its entirely possible, though i would place my bets on 900k november and ~3 million december (doesnt galaxy hit in LATE november?)

November 12

 

[Culex]

They sold 500K consoles per month in Europe from July to September. Looks like Japan is their weakest market.

Which is really scary considering it's blowing the competition away in Japan.

 

[SPEA]

If that's true, I'd estimate they'll ship 60% of that to "the Americas"... or 55% to the U.S. Assume a 40/60 breakdown between Nov/Dec... that gives an NPD of...


1,650,000 for November.
2,475,000 for December.


^^^
Scared yet, xbots?

Are you 12?

 

[gcfan2k5]

November 12

Statement revised then, 1.2 nov 2.9 dec

 

[[Nintex]]

Its entirely possible, though i would place my bets on 900k november and ~3 million december (doesnt galaxy hit in LATE november?)

That would be:
3 million/31 days=98k a day
98k/24 hours=4k each hour!
4k/60 minutes=67 Wii's sold every minute

 

[Core407]

So will the Wii surpass the PS2 in hardware sales?

 

[TheKingsCrown]

Are you 12?

Do not challenge gahigs.

 

[Mithos]

Too bad many of the existing/upcoming channels are/will be unusable....

Nintendo WAKE UP!

Make the channels that dont need to be regionlocked use the data from whatever part of the world they are used in.

US-Consoles in europe countries data from europe (weather, news, tv guides etc)
PAL-Consoles in USA should use data from USA.....

The world is GLOBAL Nintendo..... ;P

 

[Shiggy]

Too bad many of the existing/upcoming channels are/will be unusable....

Nintendo WAKE UP!

Make the channels that dont need to be regionlocked use the data from whatever part of the world they are used in.

US-Consoles in europe countries data from europe (weather, news, tv guides etc)
PAL-Consoles in USA should use data from USA.....

The world is GLOBAL Nintendo..... ;P

Isn't this already possible?

 

[Talamius]

3rd parties are going to have a decision on their hands in a year or so.

Exclusive properties for the 360, where the install base will be smaller but where gamers buy 3rd party games in droves.

vs

Exclusive properties for the Wii, where the install base will be larger (possibly by a lot), but where 3rd party games have not had as much success.

Will the Wii install base reach a point where it makes up the difference in sales vs the 360 with sheer numbers?

 

[gcfan2k5]

3rd parties are going to have a decision on their hands in a year or so.

Exclusive properties for the 360, where the install base will be smaller but where gamers buy 3rd party games in droves.

vs

Exclusive properties for the Wii, where the install base will be larger (possibly by a lot), but where 3rd party games have not had as much success.

Will the Wii install base reach a point where it makes up the difference in sales vs the 360 with sheer numbers?

If a third party puts as much effort into a Wii game as it does a 360 game, rather than letting some shitty shovelware team make shoddy ports and cash-in garbage, the games WILL sell (RE4 proves this, its over a million by now worldwide, and its a port of a game thats also out on 3 other platforms). It was the same on gamecube, devs make shitty ports and half-ass the exclusives too, and then blame nintendo for the lack of sales, they should blame themselves.

 

[Grecco]

As cool as I feed for owning Wii, it sure would be cool if some actual Wii games were good, as oppose to Virtual Console games.

Did you buy Zack and Wikki yet?

 

[capslock]

If a third party puts as much effort into a Wii game as it does a 360 game, rather than letting some shitty shovelware team make shoddy ports and cash-in garbage, the games WILL sell (RE4 proves this, its over a million by now worldwide, and its a port of a game thats also out on 3 other platforms). It was the same on gamecube, devs make shitty ports and half-ass the exclusives too, and then blame nintendo for the lack of sales, they should blame themselves.

Uh, you're trying to prove your point about how ports are bad ideas on Wii and you're using RE4 as an example?

 

[titiklabingapat]

Uh, you're trying to prove your point about how ports are bad ideas on Wii and you're using RE4 as an example?

It's not a shitty port.

 

[gcfan2k5]

Uh, you're trying to prove your point about how ports are bad ideas on Wii and you're using RE4 as an example?

No, im trying to prove a point about shitty ports or cash-in games not selling, a GOOD port WILL sell, a sloppy, broken port wont.

Developers need to step up to the plate and at least try to match gamecube LAUNCH visuals (luigis mansion, rogue leader) on a system 2.5 - 4x more powerful with 3x as much memory. And they also need to stop doing shitty cash-ins, and put their best teams on Wii games to put forth REAL effort.


EDIT: Can someone replace my master chief gamerpic with mario? Im absolutely horrid with photoshop.

 

[Thunder Monkey]

Uh, you're trying to prove your point about how ports are bad ideas on Wii and you're using RE4 as an example?

Shitty ports is what I got from it.

Quality ports like RE4 and Twilight Princess sell well enough.

 

[Lobster]

Anyone else thinking that one production is ramped up, and they become readily available, that the demand will sink?

Shortages will finish but the sales would either go up or stay the same.

 

[Barry Lightning]

i scored one 2 weeks ago just by chance. they sold out 2 days later.

and i got a txt message this morning from a friend who got one last nite

 

[spwolf]

Can we finally retire the whole "Nintendo needs to get more production facilities!" and "They're just stoking demand by not making enough!" garbage now?

so they make a lot but sell only half of it

 

[titiklabingapat]

so they make a lot but sell only half of it

Exactly.

I like you.

 

[Mithos]

Isn't this already possible?

No Weatherchannel/votechannel reads country from Wii settings, and a US-Wii dont have european countries in the list too choose, and vice versa for PAL consoles..

So channels are "regionlocked" atm.

 

[[Nintex]]

No Weatherchannel/votechannel reads country from Wii settings, and a US-Wii dont have european countries in the list too choose, and vice versa for PAL consoles..

So channels are "regionlocked" atm.

That's because Nintendo doesn't sell US Wii's in Europe and vice versa.

 

[tha_con]

No. Christmas, dude. It's only going to get more out of hand.

Right. So you think that Nintendo is just ramping up production for Christmas, and after that they'll stop making 1.8 Mil a month? :lol

Like I said, once they are easy to find on shelves, they will stop selling 400K to 500K a month. Right now, it's still literally flourishing off of the hype and media, and Christmas will be the same, but honestly, 100 Million people aren't going to continue to buy this console every single month. It will slow down, and I expect Wii sales figures to 'finally' stabalize around 250-300 thousand a month.

 

[Thomper]

I still doubt that. Nintendo has been awful with shipments with the Wii. We shall see though.

Awful? Really now? Selling over a million a month in a quiet time of year is shipping 'awful' amounts?

 

[Mithos]

That's because Nintendo doesn't sell US Wii's in Europe and vice versa.

I get that ofc. BUT thats no reason why channels should be regionlocked.

Channels should/could be regionfree adn get data from closest "nintendo" server or "3rd party" servers used for data retreiving.

 

[gcfan2k5]

I get that ofc. BUT thats no reason why channels should be regionlocked.

Channels should/could be regionfree adn get data from closest "nintendo" server or "3rd party" servers used for data retreiving.

Doing so would encourage importing and exporting, both of those things are bad for companies, because of things like licensing (ubisoft publishes a shitload of capcoms games in europe dont they? but capcom publish themselves in the US, for example)

 

[Deku]

Right. So you think that Nintendo is just ramping up production for Christmas, and after that they'll stop making 1.8 Mil a month? :lol

Like I said, once they are easy to find on shelves, they will stop selling 400K to 500K a month. Right now, it's still literally flourishing off of the hype and media, and Christmas will be the same, but honestly, 100 Million people aren't going to continue to buy this console every single month. It will slow down, and I expect Wii sales figures to 'finally' stabalize around 250-300 thousand a month.

They're already stockpiling inventory from existing production. They produce a million units a month, they do not ship 1 million per month.

The bump is to allow them to increase their shipments net of things like holding extra inventory for christmas and other seasonal events.

 

[Nuclear Muffin]

Too bad many of the existing/upcoming channels are/will be unusable....

Nintendo WAKE UP!

Make the channels that dont need to be regionlocked use the data from whatever part of the world they are used in.

US-Consoles in europe countries data from europe (weather, news, tv guides etc)
PAL-Consoles in USA should use data from USA.....

The world is GLOBAL Nintendo..... ;P

Nooo I don`t want this, cause the Wii Shop Channel will suffer the same fate and us importers will be stuck with crappy 50hz interlaced VC games!

 

[~Kinggi~]

The Wii's success doesnt phase me at all. I refuse to buy one. Just doesnt have the games i want, doesnt have a good frequency of actual good games, and of course, doesnt look that hot on my hdtv.

 

[ivysaur12]

I can't believe Nintendo is finally get a home console that sells more than its predecessor.

 

[Eteric Rice]

The Wii's success doesnt phase me at all. I refuse to buy one. Just doesnt have the games i want, doesnt have a good frequency of actual good games, and of course, doesnt look that hot on my hdtv.

It'll eventually have games you want, along with a good flow of good games.

Can't help you on the HDTV thing, though. It's the curse of being an early adapter.

 

[Chris FOM]

Nintendo is definitely stockpiling, but not 800,000/month. Subtracting the first three months of fiscal 2008 from the first six months of fiscal 2008 gives Wii shipments of 2.9 million in the last quarter, or 1.3 million/month. That's more than the 1 million/month we thought they were shipping, but it also means they only stockpiled 1.5 million over the last three months instead of 2.4 million. Add in the 900,000 or so they stocked earlier and it looks like they have around 2.4 million held back to unleash in November and December. Add in another half million if thy ship 1.3 million in October as well. So over rest of the year, if they ship everything they have then that's 1.8 million*3+2.4 million=7.8 million Wiis in the last three months for a LTD of 20.97 million Wiis at the end of 2007. So they'll be less than one million units short of the GameCube's LTD at the end of this year. And they plan to sell ANOTHER 21.6 million Wiis next year. Astonishing.

 

[gcfan2k5]

Nintendo is definitely stockpiling, but not 800,000/month. Subtracting the first three months of fiscal 2008 from the first six months of fiscal 2008 gives Wii shipments of 2.9 million in the last quarter, or 1.3 million/month. That's more than the 1 million/month we thought they were shipping, but it also means they only stockpiled 1.5 million over the last three months instead of 2.4 million. Add in the 900,000 or so they stocked earlier and it looks like they have around 2.4 million held back to unleash in November and December. Add in another half million if thy ship 1.3 million in October as well. So over rest of the year, if they ship everything they have then that's 1.8 million*3+2.4 million=7.8 million Wiis in the last three months for a LTD of 20.97 million Wiis at the end of 2007. So they'll be less than one million units short of the GameCube's LTD at the end of this year. And they plan to sell ANOTHER 21.6 million Wiis next year. Astonishing.

2.9 million divided by 3 comes out to around 930 thousand, not 1.3 million, friend. Theyve slowed shipments to japan, and have enough excess stock to last them probably a month.

And i accounted for 1.2 million in april may and june, and 1 million in july august and september for shipments, which is accurate. They will have stockpiles of around 4 million as of the start of november, and be able to ship a full 1.8 million for november and december also, giving them ~7.6 million shipped for the NOV+DEC, potentially.

 

[Chris FOM]

2.9 million divided by 3 comes out to around 930 thousand, not 1.3 million, friend. Theyve slowed shipments to japan, and have enough excess stock to last them probably a month.

And i accounted for 1.2 million in april may and june, and 1 million in july august and september for shipments, which is accurate. They will have stockpiles of around 4 million as of the start of november, and be able to ship a full 1.8 million for november and december also, giving them ~7.6 million shipped for the NOV+DEC, potentially.

I typoed. Dammit. They shipped 3.9 million last quarter, not 2.9. 13.17 LTD shipped in Q2 2008-9.27 LTD shipped at the end of Q1 2008=3.9 shipped in Q2. Sorry for the mistake. My bad.

 

[zsidane]

ubisoft publishes a shitload of capcoms games in europe dont they? but capcom publish themselves in the US, for example

I'm pretty sure that Nintendo is publishing Capcom games in Europe. But your point still stands. The same thing applies for SE games.

 

[gcfan2k5]

I typoed. Dammit. They shipped 3.9 million last quarter, not 2.9. 13.17 LTD shipped in Q2 2008-9.27 LTD shipped at the end of Q1 2008=3.9 shipped in Q2. Sorry for the mistake. My bad.

Ah sorry, in any case the extra stock sitting around in japan means they can stockpile a few hundred thousand extra units to make up the difference from that (it should take almost a month for mario galaxy to wipe out back stock for the wii in japan, i think.)

 

[Chittagong]

I'm bummed that Wii is winning. I do appreciate all the genius in the strategy, the brilliance of the device concept, and the revolution in interacting with games. But there's no way around it - as a collection of components, it's a pretty shitty baseline for a value proposition of what 249e should get you.

Then again, I never thought the bargain prices of PS3 and 360 would be sustainable to the industry.

Oh well. It was good while it lasted. Sometimes I just want to go and stand next to the games shelf of PS3 and Xbox 360 consoles in the local market and shout that "don't you idiots realize what's cramped in that box, it's a steal!"

 

[gcfan2k5]

I'm bummed that Wii is winning. I do appreciate all the genius in the strategy, the brilliance of the device concept, and the revolution in interacting with games. But there's no way around it - as a collection of components, it's a pretty shitty baseline for a value proposition of what 249e should get you.

Then again, I never thought the bargain prices of PS3 and 360 would be sustainable to the industry.

Oh well. It was good while it lasted. Sometimes I just want to go and stand next to the games shelf of PS3 and Xbox 360 consoles in the local market and shout that "don't you idiots realize what's cramped in that box, it's a steal!"

Wii winning isnt going to hurt traditional gaming at ALL, because the hardcore will always demand its games, and will buy them in droves (see 360 game sales for the perfect example). Wii winning will keep some of your favorite companies in business, because 1 million sales is barely breaking even for a third party on 360, and for the bigger games 2 million is breaking even. MOST games dont hit a million, and id say most games dont even break even on 360, but on Wii you can probably break even with 150 - 200k.

 

[Dash Kappei]

Yes, the NES was far higher. In fact (from Wiki):

NES - 60 million

SNES - 47 million

N64 - 32.93 million

GCN - 21.66 million

Wii - 13 million

So going by that, the Wi has sold it's last unit... yesterday.

It's official, Wii fad over.

 

[Xeke]

I can't believe Nintendo is finally get a home console that sells more than its predecessor.

N64 outsold the Virtual Boy.

 

[F#A#Oo]

So by the end of March 2008...what's the total amount of Wii's Nintendo could have possibly shipped/sold?

Wasn't the Wii's total life-time shipment mean't to be 22m-24m by March 2008?

 

[RobertM]

Wii - 13 million

So going by that, the Wi has sold it's last unit... yesterday.

It's official, Wii fad over.

We'll see about that.

 

[gcfan2k5]

So by the end of March 2008...what's the total amount of Wii's Nintendo could have possibly shipped/sold?

Wasn't the Wii's total life-time shipment mean't to be 22m-24m by March 2008?

Theoretically if they ship 100% of what theyve got until then? 27.44 million.

Realistically? Probably closer to 26 million.