Probably going to be bad news until E3 at least unless Nintendo gets off their asses and shows off something people want to play.
I do think the Wii U will get its Uncharted/Halo/Gears/Monster Hunter/Smash Brothers Melee this year, though.
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Probably going to be bad news until E3 at least unless Nintendo gets off their asses and shows off something people want to play.
I do think the Wii U will get its Uncharted/Halo/Gears/Monster Hunter/Smash Brothers Melee this year, though.
Because the system I just spent $350+tax (ie nearly $400) on is struggling. Isn't it natural to feel glum when your big investment is showing signs of possibly not paying off?
Hopefully it'll be ready for next fall. Smash plus a $50 price cut will do wonders, especially if Xbox 720/PS3 are in tight supply.
the system has not been out for a year and we dont know what their strategy for the holiday season 2013 is going to be. they are not killing it out of the gate but they are not going to go third party anytime soon either.
Shrennin
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I'm not sure if this is a case of Nintendo being arrogant thinking that they could replicate the Wii's success with incremental change and lack of power but Nintendo has made many mistakes with the Wii U regardless, starting with the name itself. I can see Nintendo being third place this gen, but they will not be destroyed by it if that happens, they may just be humbled a bit is all.
Portugeezer
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It has old ports, only compelling games for gamers would be Mario and Zombi U, maybe Ninja Gaiden 3 good version, not much more.
If people are only using it to buy Nintendo games then that is the likely scenario.
Then you shouldn't fucking spent 350 + tax you weren't certain was going to pay off then.
Whats up with these console launches that makes people so fucking dumb with their money?
airmangataosenai
Member
Since the subject of this thread are sales covering the entire holiday season, Smash Bros. sales are obviously a factor. And it was a major hit, overall the best selling game for the system actually so it'd be ridiculous not to include it.
polyh3dron
Banned
Wii had Zelda: TP and a few other interesting exclusives at launch. Many people buying the Wii U right now already have a 360 and/or PS3 and therefore won't be buying AC3 or BLOPS2 for their Wii U.
at worst it will be a gamecubelevel failure (which i doubt). the gamecube at least had a lot of excellent nintendo games and a few third party gems too. i dont think its not going to pay off. in fact nintendo systems are a pretty safe bet. aside of virtual console no console really flopped and was pulled out of the market after a few years. most of em had support for at least 5 years.
Ollie Pooch
In a perfect world, we'd all be homersexual
What I don't get is - they canned the Wii so long ago. Basically unceremoniously dropped it altogether - from that, I was expecting them to launch a new system with games that would blow everyone away because all their resources were devoted to it.
Instead they launch with Nintendoland and Mario 2d Rehash #2303023 (which, to be fair, was actually quite good... but a rehash nonetheless). They bring out a new system with close to a year head start on their supposed competitors, then fail to release anything at all to sell it, while suffering a complete lack of interest from third parties after talking this aspect up for ages.
What the fuck are they doing? There have to be some 'big' games ready to drop - why aren't they announcing them while their system is floundering? I can't even tell if it's arrogance or incompetence.
Instead they launch with Nintendoland and Mario 2d Rehash #2303023 (which, to be fair, was actually quite good... but a rehash nonetheless). They bring out a new system with close to a year head start on their supposed competitors, then fail to release anything at all to sell it, while suffering a complete lack of interest from third parties after talking this aspect up for ages.
What the fuck are they doing? There have to be some 'big' games ready to drop - why aren't they announcing them while their system is floundering? I can't even tell if it's arrogance or incompetence.
Man. That's a solid launch line up.
Especially the Zelda U part.
Look how long it took for Nintendo to get SS out people. It's likely going to take them even longer to get the first HD Zelda done. I honestly don't think we'll see it until the end of the Wii U's life.
Green Biker Dude
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at this point it looks like the wii u will do worse than the gamecube, having no third party support, no relevant gimmick and being behind in terms of online and graphical power
at least the gcn had some support early on, wasn't behind in graphics and online was mostly irrelevant in the ps2/xbox/gcn/dc gen besides halo 2 and maybe socom if you want to be generous
i wonder if nintendo will try to release another videogame in the middle of the generation if that happens (say 2015) or if they just roll with it. i don't see nintendo (and sony, but for different reasons) being able to release another console after this generation at this rate. not if they continue the way they've been handling their systems, at least
it's also interesting how the signs of "doomed" were written all over nintendo after the wii's first year or so, but people just saw the sales numbers and kept acting as if everything was fine. ruh roh
at least the gcn had some support early on, wasn't behind in graphics and online was mostly irrelevant in the ps2/xbox/gcn/dc gen besides halo 2 and maybe socom if you want to be generous
i wonder if nintendo will try to release another videogame in the middle of the generation if that happens (say 2015) or if they just roll with it. i don't see nintendo (and sony, but for different reasons) being able to release another console after this generation at this rate. not if they continue the way they've been handling their systems, at least
it's also interesting how the signs of "doomed" were written all over nintendo after the wii's first year or so, but people just saw the sales numbers and kept acting as if everything was fine. ruh roh
Whoa, there. I didn't say I was going to jump off a cliff. If I didn't think I'd be okay with what I was getting, I wouldn't have bought it. Chill!
MikeE21286
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They were probably so concerned with inventing what the next Wii remote would be (which ended up being the Gamepad for the WiiU) that all/most resources and efforts went to that.
I can only imagine how many different failed prototypes they had for idea concepts before landing on the Gamepad.
lwilliams3
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One thing to consider is that Wii U has digital distribution, so we don't have the complete picture of all the sales.
The bigger problem is not the hardware sales, but the software. That was what the article was referring to. In fact, the more expensive SKU is rarer.
NSMB is selling and has a good tie-ratio with the system. The problem is the other games.
Nintendo has not announced much about their 2013 plans yet. We should hear something soon as more people press the issue if software sales with Nintendo
Escape Goat
Member
Did you not do any research on it before you spent $400? Nothings changed since then.
Let's not forget Gamecube didn't have a game bundled with the system. No matter how much you actually want it, it's probably still probably one less game you buy immediately at launch.
That the Wii sold so much software speaks for the fact that Nintendo still had the hardcore gamer's loyalty back then. The lineup was good with Zelda, and even party games were "new" back then, so people like us were more likely to buy the Rayman Rabbids game, while we probably wouldn't touch that with a long pole these days.
That the Wii sold so much software speaks for the fact that Nintendo still had the hardcore gamer's loyalty back then. The lineup was good with Zelda, and even party games were "new" back then, so people like us were more likely to buy the Rayman Rabbids game, while we probably wouldn't touch that with a long pole these days.
Damn that looks a lot better than Wii U, although you could get some of the good stuff like Dave Mirra 2 on other systems.
The OP is talking about December sales. Smash Bros. came out Dec. 2 in the U.S.
I know I waited until Melee came out before buying my Cube.
Blood Diamonds
Banned
If Nintendo wants the Wii U to not be forgotten after Orbis and Durango reveal in E3, then they really need to show some games, anything, just anything, footage of Bayonetta, footage of Smash, trailer for Zelda or Mario.
A repeat of E3 2012 would damage Nintendo in an unbelievable way. Also, is it possible for Nintendo to change the name of the Wii U?
A repeat of E3 2012 would damage Nintendo in an unbelievable way. Also, is it possible for Nintendo to change the name of the Wii U?
Man, people are really taking my "this is depressing" post and running with it, huh?
I'm really not that mad! I knew what I was getting! Yeesh.
That doesn't mean I can't feel a little down, for crying out loud.
I'm really not that mad! I knew what I was getting! Yeesh.
That doesn't mean I can't feel a little down, for crying out loud.
JordanN
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You really think that? What took Skyward Sword so long to develop that every Zelda game after it must share the same fate? The motion controls?
Maybe Nintendo's transition to HD isn't going as smoothly as they hoped? Nintendo is a Japanese developer, the Japanese gaming industry had by far the hardest time going to HD.
Maybe Nintendo doesn't have the team sizes, or technical talent to do it.
I believe that in Nintendo's eyes they feel that don't need to bring out those "big" games for the early adopters - they will buy the system regardless. Those games are used to lure in those hesitant about the system. There are many people in this forum who have said, "wake me up when Mario 3D and Zelda hits."
But the good thing about this is that if it continues to slide then we might see panic mode Nintendo.
But yeah, if actually true, this isn't surprising to me. A good number of games on the Wii U are games that many can easily buy on systems that they already have.
Really bad sign for Wii U owners who are hoping to get decent 3rd party support. Then again, I wouldn't see why one would get a Wii U for 3rd party games.
Really bad sign for Wii U owners who are hoping to get decent 3rd party support. Then again, I wouldn't see why one would get a Wii U for 3rd party games.
that baffles me too
where is the nintendo of 2007 that had
WarioWare: Smooth Moves
Wii Play
Super Paper Mario
Mario Party 8
Big Brain Academy: Wii Degree
Pokémon Battle Revolution
Mario Strikers Charged
Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
Donkey Kong Barrel Blast
Battalion Wars 2
Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn
Super Mario Galaxy
Link's Crossbow Training
all in one year
Change flop to vita and you have yourself a gif that could get some use around here.
Yeah, they totally won't release a new Smash Bros, Mario Kart, 3D Mario and Zelda, right?
trying to develope HD Games for the first time.
Sho_Nuff82
Member
The idea of gamers cultivating multigenerational grudges is a bit silly. If PS3 owners ignored every 3rd party who gave them a bad port in 2007 they wouldn't have anything to play now.
Basically, you can't blame Rabbids and Madden Wii for Assassin's Creed and Madden Wii U flopping.
JordanN
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Unlike other Japanese developers, they had 6 years to get ready. It would be odd if they just started now (or how else would they push out games like Nintendo Land?).
That happened a year after the Wii launch so if we compare, the Wii U should get a shit ton of games for 2013.
... who am I kidding lol. Would they really have that many unannounced games just waiting?
I don't know about you, but I'm getting this same sense of deja vu regarding the month of January after the Wii had come out. We had nothing to play but Wii Sports and Twilight Princess.
Ollie Pooch
In a perfect world, we'd all be homersexual
Guess they forgot they actually need games, too.
Obviously (hopefully?) they'll release some great stuff down the line, but man, they know how to mess up a launch. This thing has zero hype. Such a wasted opportunity.
News flash: It take things called "Time" and "Money" to do that.
KillerMan91
Member
Pretty much this. On a paper new 2D mario for launch was probably great idea but I think that success on NSMB Wii was mostly based on pent up demand as it was ages since last 2D mario on home console. Now there has been so so many in recent years that it feels like rehash as new more powerful hardware really doesn't matter that much with 2D games. They really should have developed new 3D mario for launch. For launch I think it's better to have game that shows what the new hardware can do.
MikeE21286
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What I'm thinking is that it's not pushing hardware like Zelda did
And if you don't have a PS3/360, those consoles are much better values than the Wii U right now and you can pick up the back catalog of great games for sub-$20 each. Not to mention there's still several multi-platform games coming out that are worthwhile with no Wii U releases listed.
The tablet controller is pretty cool but they don't have the games yet to make the console worth buying, nor have they even teased footage of the games that might fit that bill for the core market.
terrisus
Member
Plus it had some forced retailer bundling.
In particular, ebgames.com force-bundled the system with Luigi's Mansion, Wave Race, Rogue Leader, and, if you wanted the Black instead of the Purple system, you were also forced to get Madden as well.
Not sure how it was in-stores, and I'm sure there were plenty of places you could get the system on its own, but, for ebgames.com's online preorders for the Gamecube, those were the only options. So, that certainly didn't hurt game sales figures any.
Well TP took forever too. I'm just assuming the first HD Zelda is going to have a rocky development road in front of it as well. Either way there is no way we see a trailer for a Wii U Zelda at this years E3.
Not really all that surprising. I got a Wii at launch, with two additional games. I got a Wii U at launch, and haven't bought a single retail game yet. Only two small eShop games. Like with the 3DS, there was no "must have" game for me, and not enough hype to fool me into buying random launch games. Nintendo blew it with 3DS, and they blew it with Wii U.
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