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Wii U hardware sales up 666% in UK
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Psycho_Mantis
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You seriously believe that the Wii U has already passed the Wii's lifetime sales in the UK then? OK.No, that is HW LTD from that month, not that months sales.
Why do you think that this would turn the UK the worst market in Europe for the Wii U, when that was nowhere near the case beforehand?All of these charts predate the launch of the PS4 and Xbone.
No, you really can't, due to the fact that the UK is one of the biggest markets in Europe overall.The UK has historically not been a large consumer of Nintendo products, and you can extrapolate the UK as being their worst market from UK software sales as well as the comparative success of the 3DS.
Some numbers for context:
We know the PS4 outsold the WiiU LTD in the UK when it launched (250k). The Xb1 didn't (150k). That gives an LTD of at the very best 250k for the WiiU by the ned of November 2013. 40k of that were sold on the launch week end.
So that leaves an average of 4k / week for the WiiU over it's first year, and that's the highest range possible. It's likely lower than this, especially lately, and considering it was likely a super low week before that, as there was no significant releases for ages.
So, yeah, 10k consoles sold over MK8's launch seems fair enough.
We know the PS4 outsold the WiiU LTD in the UK when it launched (250k). The Xb1 didn't (150k). That gives an LTD of at the very best 250k for the WiiU by the ned of November 2013. 40k of that were sold on the launch week end.
So that leaves an average of 4k / week for the WiiU over it's first year, and that's the highest range possible. It's likely lower than this, especially lately, and considering it was likely a super low week before that, as there was no significant releases for ages.
So, yeah, 10k consoles sold over MK8's launch seems fair enough.
shinra-bansho
Member
lolwut.No, that is HW LTD from that month, not that months sales.
Europe, with the exception of France, hasn't been large on Nintendo products The exception being the Wii. German software charts don't paint the picture of a market that's been enamoured with the system either. There isn't anything there that suggests that the UK is the worst market for the system and quite a lot to show that it isn't.All of these charts predate the launch of the PS4 and Xbone.
The UK has historically not been a large consumer of Nintendo products, and you can extrapolate the UK as being their worst market from UK software sales as well as the comparative success of the 3DS.
MrNyarlathotep
Banned
You seriously believe that the Wii U has already passed the Wii's lifetime sales in the UK then?
My bad.lolwut
There isn't anything there that suggests that the UK is the worst market for the system
Other than, you know, living in the UK.
The UK has historically been the worst performing market in Europe for nintendo with every console except the Wii and the DS.
This isn't some crazy controversial statement; every single console Nintendo has released in the UK was outsold by its competitors. This is not true for mainland Europe.
Its very likely that the Xbone has already outsold the the WiiU in the UK; this is not likely in any other country on the planet.
quite a lot to show that it isn't.
like what?
shinra-bansho
Member
Did you do some sort of national survey going door to door?Other than, you know, living in the UK.
The UK being a better market for the XBO than other European markets, does not mean anything towards whether the UK is "the worst market in Europe" for the Wii U.
Like the parade of charts showing that it isn't. Including the one you posted yourself.like what?
It isn't just doing poorly in the UK, it's doing poorly across Europe.
And from those charts one would surmise that Italy is the worst market for the system in Europe.
BulletTheory
Neo Member
Not surprised really, the game looks absolutely glorious! I hope the sales keep up for Nintendos sake.
MrNyarlathotep
Banned
Did you do some sort of national survey going door to door?
No, but I can see what is and isn't sold in high street retailers.
I can observe that it is odd that the largest single market in Europe had all Nintendo Europe business being handled by Germany until the Wii instead of having a UK branch.
I can see a general consensus of Uk GAF of nintendos traditonally poor showing.
Like the parade of charts showing that it isn't. Including the one you posted yourself.
Charts showing "nintendo family" hardware has a smaller percentage install base in the Uk than anywhere else in Europe.
shinra-bansho
Member
Your having eyes and the ability to write an anecdote about using them isn't data.No, but I can see what is and isn't sold in high street retailers.
I can observe that it is odd that the largest single market in Europe had all Nintendo Europe business being handled by Germany until the Wii instead of having a UK branch.
Charts showing "nintendo family" hardware has a smaller percentage install base in the Uk than anywhere else in Europe.
Meanwhile, we're talking about the Wii U, not the "Nintendo family."
The charts show based on tracker data and not just your occasional walkabouts there are markets worse than and markets better than the UK for the Wii U, but by and large, the UK isn't an abnormality. It is in fact one of the better markets from those charts.
MrNyarlathotep
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If a multinational corporation that sold to the United States put its NA headquarters in mexico, how seriously do you think they take the NA market?
In terms of marketshare - not unit sales - the UK has historically been nintendos worst performing European market. It is also the largest single market.
the two aren't mututally exclusive.
Benelux could be selling fewer units but still be a stronger market.
In terms of marketshare - not unit sales - the UK has historically been nintendos worst performing European market. It is also the largest single market.
the two aren't mututally exclusive.
Benelux could be selling fewer units but still be a stronger market.
shinra-bansho
Member
In terms of marketshare, the UK is not the Wii U's worst market, based on information shared by Nintendo in their investor briefings.
In terms of marketshare, the Wii U performed better at launch through March 2013 in the UK than in Belgium and the Netherlands. It performed about the same as Belgium from April-September.
In terms of marketshare, the UK has been a consistently better market than both Spain and Italy from launch through September 2013.
In terms of marketshare, the Wii U performed better in the UK than France in the April-Sept 2013 period.
If you have something to actually reference to verify the claim that the UK is the worst market for the system and not just anecdotes and irrelevant questions, then feel free to share that reference.
In terms of marketshare, the Wii U performed better at launch through March 2013 in the UK than in Belgium and the Netherlands. It performed about the same as Belgium from April-September.
In terms of marketshare, the UK has been a consistently better market than both Spain and Italy from launch through September 2013.
In terms of marketshare, the Wii U performed better in the UK than France in the April-Sept 2013 period.
If you have something to actually reference to verify the claim that the UK is the worst market for the system and not just anecdotes and irrelevant questions, then feel free to share that reference.
MrNyarlathotep
Banned
In terms of marketshare the UK is not the Wii U's worst market, based on information shared by Nintendo in their investor briefings.
In terms of marketshare the Wii U performed better at launch through March 2013 in the UK than in Belgium and the Netherlands. It performed about the same as Belgium from April-September.
In terms of marketshare the UK has been a consistently better market than both Spain and Italy from launch through September 2013.
Again; prior to the launch of the PS4 and Xbone.
The UK is traditionally also a high percentage early adopter country for new technology.
Do you think the UK is more, less, or about the same in terms of attitude to Nintendo as the USA?
frankie_baby
Member
During the boom years of the Wii the UK was actually the strongest market on the planet for it
MrNyarlathotep
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During the boom years of the Wii the UK was actually the strongest market on the planet for it
Yes, which is almost certainly the reason we finally got a nintendo UK
EDIT:
If you have something to actually reference to verify the claim that the UK is the worst market for the system and not just anecdotes and irrelevant questions, then feel free to share that reference.
No there is nothing to currently contradict that between the WiiU launch and september 2013 WiiU UK sales were not the worst in Europe, just as there is nothing to currently contradict that there are no titles being released for the WiiU until october.
shinra-bansho
Member
Feel free to share the data you're privy to for after the launch of the PS4 and XBO to show that the situation has changed dramatically. That Italian Wii U marketshare has risen dramatically, or that UK marketshare has fallen below the Italian market.Again; prior to the launch of the PS4 and Xbone.
The UK is traditionally also a high percentage early adopter country for new technology.
Do you think the UK is more, less, or about the same in terms of attitude to Nintendo as the USA?
MrNyarlathotep
Banned
There is no current data, only historical precedent and extrapolation from software sales.
When nintendo show that data feel free to continue this discussion.
When nintendo show that data feel free to continue this discussion.
Every Nintendo handheld has had a 90%+ marketshare, except for the DS which only had about a 66% marketshare.
Therefore the DS is Nintendo's worst performing handheld. Even the 3DS is doing better.
Therefore the DS is Nintendo's worst performing handheld. Even the 3DS is doing better.
Amazing how Nintendo predicted the success of the Wii all the way back in January 2001.MrNyarlathotep said:Yes, which is almost certainly the reason we finally got a nintendo UK
anotherVegan
Member
So how many Wii Us will sell once Smash releases?
MrNyarlathotep
Banned
Amazing how Nintendo predicted the success of the Wii all the way back in January 2001.
What youre referring to as "nintendo uk" were a few people in a farmhouse in slough dealing with retailer enquiries; all actual decisions were taken by Nintendo Europe (in germany) until 2009.
The UK didn't even have localised marketing control until a restructure in 2005.
Compare this to most every other games publisher let alone platform holder who have London offices and autonomy over UK operations.