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Wii U Speculation Thread of Brains Beware: Wii U Re-Unveiling At E3 2012
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AceBandage said:
Agree. Maybe two questions with the 'we aren't here to talk about that right now. Certainly we are excited about the machine and the players response at E3, but don't have anything to share right now (although you will be the first to know when we do - wink.).'
PushTheButtonMax
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Well the description specifically mentions the Wii U, so we're gonna get something...
AceBandage
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PushTheButtonMax said:
We'll get, "We'll have more to announce on the Wii U in the coming months!"
AceBandage
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Shanadeus said:
The IGN topic is still open. There's plenty to go around.
soulassssns
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snesfreak said:
Source or you are trolling
AceBandage
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soulassssns said:
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Really?
IceDoesntHelp
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:lolsoulassssns said:
Hero of Legend
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So how did BP get banned?
AceBandage
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Hero of Legend said:
By being BurntPork.
AceBandage
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Door2Dawn said:
They clearly aren't going after the exact same audience that gobbled up the Wii.
They've even said as such.
They want a more loyal fanbase that will buy lots of games.
Cerebral Assassin
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AceBandage said:
Quotes? I know they have said they want to appeal to people who buy more game, but I don't recall them ever stating they wouldn't be trying to keep the new audience they uncovered with the Wii/DS.
IceDoesntHelp
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Why such precise dates?JJConrad said:
Give BP a break. It's not as if the guy is a drive-by troll. He seems to genuinely want the Wii U to be the greatest machine possible and any news that could possibly be skewed to shatter that dream hits him hard.
He's basically openly admitted as much and he has never been slow to stand down when others point out the errors in his logic or position.
I for one will miss the manic energy he brings to the thread.
He's basically openly admitted as much and he has never been slow to stand down when others point out the errors in his logic or position.
I for one will miss the manic energy he brings to the thread.
IceDoesntHelp
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Eh, he'll be back. Gaf runs on his craziness.11redder said:
Granted it does get...
Ding Ding Ding.AceBandage said:
AceBandage
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11redder said:
BP's problem was that he was, self proclaimed, bi-polar.
Which, I mean, is fine, but it was extreme with him.
He'd post about how Nintendo was awesome in one breath then how they were stupid and doomed in the next.
For no reason at all.
It gets annoying, I'm sorry.
AceBandage said:
I can understand that point of view.
But I think he really views Nintendo as awesome and wants them to suceed so badly. He just fears that something akin to the use of carts, mini-dvds or being completely out of step power-wise, will once again see Ninty receive less than stellar third-party support, which will doom the machine to obscurity in his mind.
I guess what I'm saying is that it comes from the right place. He's not here trying to annoy people or wind them up. He's just emotionally vomitting on his keyboard, probably due to caring too much.
AceBandage
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guek said:
No way it's perma, unless he posted like child porn or something.
Probably a 2 week ban, honestly.
Gamer @ Heart
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Do we have any word what so ever on whether the wii chips will be in there for full backward compat? Any chance of the system using those chips in addition to its new hardware? Like off loading controller output to the Wii's gpu? Is that even practical? to use different sets of hardware in unison?
AceBandage
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Gamer @ Heart said:
We don't really know how it'll handle BC.
I'm betting it'll be hardware based, though.
Either through Wii chips in the unit or by the parts being designed to handle Wii games directly.
bgassassin
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BurntPork said to forget about him and focus on Wii U.
IceDoesntHelp
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:lolbgassassin said:
So if Reggie does give us a hint at something Wii U related this Thursday, what do you guys think it will be?
Lets be rational people.
IceDoesntHelp said:
At best I expect him to say we'll be getting more details before the end of the year. He might hint at some new upcoming titles as well. I fully expect him to at one point say "1080p graphics, check that box." When Geoff asks him about how it stacks up next to the current HD twins and whether or not nintendo is committing to future proofing the console, he'll respond with "you know, it's great, our fans love great looking games and we're committed to bringing them the best gaming experiences possible."
Bending_Unit_22
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I can't find it but I think I predicted earlier:Shanadeus said:
CPU - 3 or 4 core OOE 3.125 GHz
GPU - 627 MHz 5870, 512 MB RAM, 24 or 32 MB eDRAM (or whatever is necessary for standard 1080P play plus whatever)
RAM - 1.254 GHz, 1, maybe 2, GB lesser RAM
Yeah I know, detailed and in depth.
Done and done.bgassassin said:
ARE YOU EXCITED!!!! WII U exists,... with details incoming,... at some point in the future!!!! YEAH, you are EXCITE!!!!IceDoesntHelp said:
IceDoesntHelp
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You know the chances of that are highly likely. BUT! I can dream..show me Pikmin 3 Reggie...DO IT!Bending_Unit_22 said:
Grampa Simpson
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It's been a turbulent few months. I sort of expect that I'll only really show up when Nintendo makes announcements and such for a while. Am very happy to have a new job though.bgassassin said:
I'm mostly just happy that you're keeping it to a guesstimated sub-150w level. That's kind of the litmus test for me on whether or not a build is at all reasonable.
I'm also a supporter of the split memory pool idea. I don't think the benefit on a unified pool is as great as it once was, but I'm very amenable to argument on that one.
guek said:
Yup, you're right. He will answer questions without answering them, repeat again and again that "it is 1080p, so you have your high definition graphics right there". Say ad infinitum that it's all about the controller and the unique experiences that can bring to the living room.
We will sit through it with baited breath and we will all come away going "Now I saw his mouth move, but did I actually hear anything of value?".
If I'm being very optimistic he might say that they have some great surprises in store that we want to tell you about but more will be revealed at a later date. That's about as much as I imagine we'd ever get at this stage. It will primarily be 3DS, Mario games and the forthcoming update.
The best and only opportunity for Geoff to get anything out of him would be the following question (but it would still be a Hail Mary pass):
"Reggie, at E3 you said we could 'check the box' for the Wii U online infrastructure and that more concrete information would shortly follow - but we don't know hardly enough to about your online plans. So, can you help us check that box?"
"Reggie, at E3 you said we could 'check the box' for the Wii U online infrastructure and that more concrete information would shortly follow - but we don't know hardly enough to about your online plans. So, can you help us check that box?"
Proelite
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No way Wii-U's GPU can be a 5870 level card. Even with a die shrink from 40nm to 28nm, the total power draw would still over 100W. Just look at 7870, same gflops as 5870, but on 28nm, and a 120W TDP.
I would say a 50W 7570 level GPU with 1.1 teraflops of power is probably the best that Nintendo can do with their current form factor.
My high end guestimate for the Wii-U:
3-4 Broadway processors at 1.5 ghz.
OR A SINGLE power7 core 3-4ghz, with 4 way SMT and OOE architecture.
40nm
200-300 million transistors
25-30 gflops
~25W TDP
There is no way Wii would be able to use a full power7 processor with 4 cores as that has 567mm2 die space area and a 150w+ TDP.
7570 Level Custom AMD GPU
28nm
500 - 750 mhz
~1 billion transistors
1+ teraflops
~50W TDP
RAM:
256+ mb Assorted ram including 1T-SRAM, Edram, Caches
1gb GDDR5 main ram
This Wii-U can run the likes of BF3, with optimizations, at 720p, 60fps, with everything maxed out.
The screen on the controller will have minimal impact to overall performance unless Dice wants to do more than UI and 2d graphics on there.
I would say a 50W 7570 level GPU with 1.1 teraflops of power is probably the best that Nintendo can do with their current form factor.
My high end guestimate for the Wii-U:
3-4 Broadway processors at 1.5 ghz.
OR A SINGLE power7 core 3-4ghz, with 4 way SMT and OOE architecture.
40nm
200-300 million transistors
25-30 gflops
~25W TDP
There is no way Wii would be able to use a full power7 processor with 4 cores as that has 567mm2 die space area and a 150w+ TDP.
7570 Level Custom AMD GPU
28nm
500 - 750 mhz
~1 billion transistors
1+ teraflops
~50W TDP
RAM:
256+ mb Assorted ram including 1T-SRAM, Edram, Caches
1gb GDDR5 main ram
This Wii-U can run the likes of BF3, with optimizations, at 720p, 60fps, with everything maxed out.
The screen on the controller will have minimal impact to overall performance unless Dice wants to do more than UI and 2d graphics on there.
Dreamwriter
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So? It ain't battery poweredProelite said:
-WindYoshi-
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Wait so do we know that Reggie will mention something Wii U related on thursday, or is that all speculation?
NinjaTehFish
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guek said:
They could actually get around this by putting a Kirby in each unit to suck away the heat, thus raising the systems power to well over 3.75 Gamecubes, But rumors suggest they may be using a cheaper type of tape than they used on Wii.
Edit:
I was resigned to burnt pork being here to stay, I'm gonna miss the crazy bastard.
bgassassin
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The tape will be back to GC levels, not worse than Wii.
He won't be gone long. ^_^
Everything I've seen in the past indicated the 4-core version of a POWER7 was around 100W. And unless something changes at the last minute (which probably would be 32nm), we know the CPU will be using the 45nm process. Same with it being a multi-core processor. That was all in IBM's press release.
I don't think most are expecting an actual POWER7 (or its cores) being used, but a CPU that borrows from it.
He won't be gone long. ^_^
Proelite said:
Everything I've seen in the past indicated the 4-core version of a POWER7 was around 100W. And unless something changes at the last minute (which probably would be 32nm), we know the CPU will be using the 45nm process. Same with it being a multi-core processor. That was all in IBM's press release.
I don't think most are expecting an actual POWER7 (or its cores) being used, but a CPU that borrows from it.
The Xtortionist
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If there isn't F-Zero at launch...I'll drink a whole thing of lemon-lime Gatorade.
EricDiesel
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I think that's just Geoff Keighley's hopes, honestly. Either that or Reggie will announce a specific timeframe of when to expect concrete info. No matter what, we're probably not getting much from this, in my opinion.-WindYoshi- said:
Except maybe Reggie getting flustered and raising his voice at Geoff like during that E3 interview haha.
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