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Wii upgradable to 720p and DVD Playback ?
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Shogmaster
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citrus lump said:
I approve of this analogy.
FitzOfRage
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MrSardonic said:
GAF does what GoNintnendon't
citrus lump
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Shogmaster said:
*high-five*
Shogmaster
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citrus lump said:
*down low*
Too slow!
I completely fail to see what GoNintendo has anything to do with this.. some are claiming future_pinoy is "that guy from GoNintendo". Well, he isn't. Future_pinoy is just a 'normal poster' and made some topics with GoNintendo as a source (right?), what has that to do with GoNintendo? Indeed, nothing at all. So claiming that the man behind the site uses neoGAF as an extention of his site, or promoting it (like Ioi does with vgcharts) is ridiculous. And, afaik gonintendo didn't report on this shit (the reason for this topic with "firmwire update possibilities for 720p" lol), only that IGN has discussed (and shown) some points about the interface among other things in their IGN Wii-kly.MrSardonic said:
potissimus
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I realize that most people in this thread realize the vast improbability of this, but for those who are a bit more wishful, the IGN Wii-kly video does in no way even hint that higher resolutions will be available through a firmware upgrade.
Interpret the video like this:
-If you have an SDTV, choose the "SDTV" option, which will display in 480i.
-If you have an EDTV or an HDTV, choose the "EDTV/HDTV" option, which will display in 480p.
Interpret the video like this:
-If you have an SDTV, choose the "SDTV" option, which will display in 480i.
-If you have an EDTV or an HDTV, choose the "EDTV/HDTV" option, which will display in 480p.
Mr. Pointy
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future_pinoy *(-1)
Terrible thread, bad poster. F-
Terrible thread, bad poster. F-
MrSardonic
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Neomoto said:
:lol
Neomoto said:
that's not what I said, I said he should keep these ramblings to postings on his website rather than going "oh, lookey here GAF, maybe we can get DVD playback and 720p via firmware upgrade". Try and read what people are saying before you comment on it.
nincompoop
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Wait wait wait, when did they take DVD playback out of the Wii? But yeah, this thread is dumb.
Throwaway123456789
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Neomoto said:
Good thing you're paying attention.
demi said:
future_pinoy said:maybe
He's filling up the whole damn forum with gonintendo links, which in my book is pimping his own site. A link here and there won't harm anyone, but a dozen links every ****ing second?
future_pinoy
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I am in no way nor have have I ever been connected with GoNintendo, lets leave RawMeatCowboy and these other guys out of these okay. Its just that GoNintendo delivers reliable news so fast, sometimes even faster than NeoGaf, that I want to share with my friends here. Please just leave the GoNintendo guys out of these okay.
soundwave05
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The reason why the Wii cannot output 720p at all is because it's frame buffer is only a little over 2MB (same as GCN).
The other 1MB of embedded 1T-SRAM is a texture buffer, and cannot be used as a frame buffer (3MB embedded 1T-SRAM total .... same as GCN).
A 720p frame buffer requires about 3.5MB, which is more than the Wii has for it's frame + texture buffer total.
Perhaps some more techies can elaborate, but this is basically why. If the Wii had say 4.5MB of embedded 1T-SRAM then 720p should be doable for games like Zelda: TP/Wii Sports and things like virtual console and Wii Channels. But it doesn't.
The DVD playback, honestly wouldn't surprise me if people hack the system and get it to play DVDs. The reason why Nintendo axed the feature I think was because they didn't want to pay royalties ot the DVD Forum and the DVD Forum also requires a digital audio output for a home DVD device (non-PC/non-portable). Nintendo didn't want to splurge apparently on that. But it wouldn't surprise me if the system can still functionally read/display DVDs with a little hacking.
The other 1MB of embedded 1T-SRAM is a texture buffer, and cannot be used as a frame buffer (3MB embedded 1T-SRAM total .... same as GCN).
A 720p frame buffer requires about 3.5MB, which is more than the Wii has for it's frame + texture buffer total.
Perhaps some more techies can elaborate, but this is basically why. If the Wii had say 4.5MB of embedded 1T-SRAM then 720p should be doable for games like Zelda: TP/Wii Sports and things like virtual console and Wii Channels. But it doesn't.
The DVD playback, honestly wouldn't surprise me if people hack the system and get it to play DVDs. The reason why Nintendo axed the feature I think was because they didn't want to pay royalties ot the DVD Forum and the DVD Forum also requires a digital audio output for a home DVD device (non-PC/non-portable). Nintendo didn't want to splurge apparently on that. But it wouldn't surprise me if the system can still functionally read/display DVDs with a little hacking.
CrushDance
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Lol the games look crappy in 480p? Oh shit forgot. MSDF.AtomicShroom said:
future_pinoy
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soundwave05 said:
thank you for that explanation bro, but is it possible to access the built in ram to increase the frame buffer ?
soundwave05
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future_pinoy said:
From what I've gathered, the answer is no, but I don't know that for 100%. I think if it were possible to do this, at least the Wii Channels and Virtual Console stuff would run at 720p, but they don't.
The system does have the horsepower to run certain apps and games at HD (hell even the XBox 1 could), I don't think that's the issue. The issue is the embedded RAM on the machine was not upgraded over the GCN, so you're limited to 480p NSTC/PAL.
I believe the 360 is the same thing, the embedded RAM is the only way to generate a frame buffer.
future_pinoy
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soundwave05 said:
well I guess thats it for 720p games then, thanks bro.
here is one last inquiry.
Since the Wii can play mp3s and videos of some kind and can output via component cable, is it possible to output HD DivX at 720p if ever they release a firmware upgrade for it. Since DivX is compressed it is not as highly taxing on Wii hardware unlike the Raw HD files ?
future_pinoy
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well well, what have we here ...
just as some smart NeoGaffers trying to down the Wii with DVD playback, this pops back up. And how do you think will they do that, FIRMWARE UPGRADE !!!
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=126273
General Wii stuff
- CNN has signed up with Nintendo as the provider of news content on tne News Channel in American and Japan. News will be presented by category, but another way of getting to it is by spinning the weather globe to find stories in different countries
- Sega has moved a significant number of development staff from PS3 to Wii over the Summer
- Although Nintendo has removed DVD movie playback from the Wii, it plans to launch in Japan next year an enchanced Wii capable of such a feature
- Nintendo intended to bring Wii to shop shelves in the UK and US for £150 and $200, but became influenced by pressure from the larger retail chains, which raised concerns over margins and low so-called 'basket value' (ie, the amount of revenue generated from a customer's overall purchases at the till)
- There are plenty of Wii Channel slots remaining to be filled
- Edge says that Wii Sports will be to Wii what Mario 64 was to the N64. Says golf has the best single player mode (no surprise) and boxing is their favourite overall
Lauren Fischer interview
just as some smart NeoGaffers trying to down the Wii with DVD playback, this pops back up. And how do you think will they do that, FIRMWARE UPGRADE !!!
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=126273
General Wii stuff
- CNN has signed up with Nintendo as the provider of news content on tne News Channel in American and Japan. News will be presented by category, but another way of getting to it is by spinning the weather globe to find stories in different countries
- Sega has moved a significant number of development staff from PS3 to Wii over the Summer
- Although Nintendo has removed DVD movie playback from the Wii, it plans to launch in Japan next year an enchanced Wii capable of such a feature
- Nintendo intended to bring Wii to shop shelves in the UK and US for £150 and $200, but became influenced by pressure from the larger retail chains, which raised concerns over margins and low so-called 'basket value' (ie, the amount of revenue generated from a customer's overall purchases at the till)
- There are plenty of Wii Channel slots remaining to be filled
- Edge says that Wii Sports will be to Wii what Mario 64 was to the N64. Says golf has the best single player mode (no surprise) and boxing is their favourite overall
Lauren Fischer interview
Kabuki Quantum Lover
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future_pinoy said:
Yeah, it'll be called the Panasonic FaQ.
TheGreatDave
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It seems strange to me that Edge stated it as a fact, rather than a rumour, when nothing official has ever been spoken of it. They didn't even say "We've heard a DVD version may be released".
They did say there's rumble in the nunchuk too though.
They did say there's rumble in the nunchuk too though.
MrSardonic
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future_pinoy said:
Where does it say firmwave upgrade? It says "plans to launch in Japan next year an enhanced Wii capable of such a feature". Seriously, learn to read before you try to be a smart ass.
future_pinoy
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MrSardonic said:
hey smartass, the practical way to do it will be a firmware upgrade, as other consoles do if it wants to add functionality, learn to think before you try to be a smart ass.
sugarhigh4242
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Did you guys hear about the PSP firmware update that would add a Cell processor?
Firmware updates = OWNAGE!
Firmware updates = OWNAGE!
evilromero
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Wii Sports the next Mario 64? ...
future_pinoy
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evilromero said:
yup
If "Channels" on the Wii are indeed little programs in their own right, Wii wouldn't even require a firmware to play back DVD's, but just a little software player a.k.a. the "DVD Channel". It hasn't been announced, but it would be outright stupid of Nintendo *not* to implement and offer a DVD Channel for download at a cost. They'd profit from it.
Also, decoding DVD's in software isn't rocket science, nor does it require more juice than what the Wii has to offer with its otherwise somewhat limited specs. With the remote controller it's also a perfect fit for navigating DVD menus.
Also, decoding DVD's in software isn't rocket science, nor does it require more juice than what the Wii has to offer with its otherwise somewhat limited specs. With the remote controller it's also a perfect fit for navigating DVD menus.
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