Be nice, USC-fan. This is going to be a tough pill to swallow for many if my first impressions are correct. But I'm not saying anything until I have verification from a more knowledgeable source.
C'mon man, let me have my optimism :/...
Be nice, USC-fan. This is going to be a tough pill to swallow for many if my first impressions are correct. But I'm not saying anything until I have verification from a more knowledgeable source.
Chipworks rule! Thanks guys!
From what i can understand yes if you like to watch rivers of tears
Be nice, USC-fan. This is going to be a tough pill to swallow for many if my first impressions are correct. But I'm not saying anything until I have verification from a more knowledgeable source.
I'm confused as to how fixed-function is free. Its still die area taken up for less
this deserves its own thread imho.
tough pill for who? The haters, or the fans?
EDRAM actually takes up around 31% of the die area.That's...Huh. I guess 480 shaders is out of the question now? I don't have long to compare it to anything else. Looks like that eDRAM takes just under 1/4th of the entire die.
From what i can understand yes if you like to watch rivers of tears
Feel the need for this
Oh boy!
perfect haha
Looks like Wsippel was right when he discussing the possibillity of a highly customized chip, with lots of fixed functions and less programmable shaders. This was nearly a year ago i think?
Nope.Make a new thread now and then another one when we get the analysis. You can never have enough threads.
Yeah, let's get a split bump. Someone PM a mod.
And BGassasin, but we all know that USC-fan was right stating that it was just an stock r700 with no changes whatsoever.
And BGassasin, but we all know that USC-fan was right stating that it was just an stock r700 with no changes whatsoever.
Don't forget no gpgpu.
*cue rant about how we don't understand what he meant when he literally said no gpgpu*
How many SIMDs do you see? if it's 4, that would be 320shaders, which would get you 352GFLOPs + Fixed functions, that isn't anything to sneeze at, compared to last gen it should blow it away.
TAke a wild guess... Hint:tough pill for who? The haters, or the fans?
He might still be right in real world term as who the hell knows how to measure the FF stuff?Poor BG, looks like he was a bit off with his 600Gflop guess .
Depends if the FF ends up being Wii only but I'm guessing that'd be a pretty big waste.How many SIMDs do you see? if it's 4, that would be 320shaders, which would get you 352GFLOPs + Fixed functions, that isn't anything to sneeze at, compared to last gen it should blow it away.
Ahhhh! So now you lower your standards. Hopefuly the dream is dead and reality will set in.
TAke a wild guess... Hint:it concers you, you'll not be eased
I can see the headlines now -
"WiiU has a 200GFLOP GPU, WEAKER THAN PS360 CONFIRMED !!1!!!"
This is what I'm fully expecting. And nobody will remember how (as was just mantioned) how the Gamecube gave the xbox a run for it's money in most cases working with less than 40% of the FLOPS.
Ahhhh! So now you lower your standards. Hopefuly the dream is dead and reality will set in.
TAke a wild guess... Hint:it concers you, you'll not be eased
He might still be right in real world term as who the hell knows how to measure the FF stuff?
Ok man, im not happy if this is the case. Is just that what about the reasonable people? You know the ones that tried to get some disscussion going leaving fanatism and bias aside. Who cries for them? XDschadenfreude only goes so far, Refreshment.01. Don't hate us for our 800gflop dream ;_;
it did? wut
How many SIMDs do you see? if it's 4, that would be 320shaders, which would get you 352GFLOPs + Fixed functions, that isn't anything to sneeze at, compared to last gen it should blow it away.
This.I hope fourth storm et al are very careful with how they present the data.
Its going to set precedent on GAF and possibly the internet, when it might be very hard to gauge how powerful exactly the GPU will be with "a large amount of customization"
2 years of speculation threads all stating that the Wii U will be a cross generational console all flushed down the drain. That must really hurt.
I have to ask, is there really a need for a new thread ?.
If the news if good it will die within 5 pages and if news is bad all it is going to lead to is 20+ pages of people arguing with more than likely a few of the regulars from this thread being banned...
Everyone who is interested in the WiiU hardware is already posting in here imo.
stating that the Wii U will be a cross generational console
2 years of speculation threads all stating that the Wii U will be a cross generational console all flushed down the drain. That must really hurt.
Depending on what is attempted that 40% can be a huge gulf.This is what I'm fully expecting. And nobody will remember how (as was just mantioned) how the Gamecube gave the xbox a run for it's money in most cases working with less than 40% of the FLOPS.
And BGassasin, but we all know that USC-fan was right stating that it was just an stock r700 with no changes whatsoever.
I was just thinking about THAT. LOL Oh man this just crushed those gpgpu dreams. Man you guys dont even know yet!!!Don't forget no gpgpu.
*cue rant about how we don't understand what he meant when he literally said no gpgpu*
2 years of speculation threads all stating that the Wii U will be a cross generational console all flushed down the drain. That must really hurt.
I'm actually more happy with the later as fixed function shaders will allow it to have free lighting and still have 352GFLOPs for games. hardly lowering the goal posts.
Yea, now it's about magical custom and fixed function hardware XDold expection: 400-550GFLOPs
new expection: 352GFLOPs + fixed function shaders
I'm actually more happy with the later as fixed function shaders will allow it to have free lighting and still have 352GFLOPs for games. hardly lowering the goal posts.
2 years of speculation threads all stating that the Wii U will be a cross generational console all flushed down the drain. That must really hurt.
Meaning? Its shaders are still more advanced than the previous gen, even if there aren't so many as we would have liked.
Although this does make me wonder, with seemingly so little to work with, how much could GPGPU work really help? A full 4870 would struggle with GPGPU while doing 3D work, let alone something cut down.
well, if you look at my history i gave up on fixed function shaders in the wust up to a year ago... it being back is awesome. Also everyone's expectations had to go down, or do you not remember the 3TFLOP PS4/XB3 that was coming.Yea, now it's about custom and fixed function hardware XD
PS: Im really sorry, my apologies to you and others that might be offend. But is too rich to pas by.