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[Aeana]

This is my debacle as well. I'm brand spankin new to this game, played WoW for years, but I'm not familiar at all with this game. I want to level up in tank spec and do all of the dungeons along the way. However, I'm not sure if I want to take the heat from all the flaming that's going to happen when I cause a wipe. Yes, I'm already assuming I will get flamed for causing wipes.

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[Familienoberhauptvogel]

So which is the EU server?

 

[MrCaliaztec]

I just want more big ass areas with quests and shit like the first one

At least the Ruins of Val Korath the 25 dungeon is bad ass, I've tanked it about 10 times now haha. I don't wanna do the Lopp village and the zombie area again so trying to instance to level 30 haha.

 

[MrCaliaztec]

It's really a very simple problem and solution.

Problem: you need to be able to deal damage in order to level or do things solo. Tank (and healer) roles require different stats, and thus different gear.
If your game is built around leveling up by yourself, people should not be expected to level/solo as a tank or a healer. These two things are incompatible and are the direct cause of shortages.

Solution: remove the necessity for different sets of gear. Players can specialize with things like runes or enchantments or whatever, or even with secondary stats, depending on the game, and thus still have to 'choose' a role to be best at and for their gear to be best-suited for, but they can still easily fall back to being able to do things on their own with the same gear in a different spec.
Blizzard finally figured this out with WoW recently, and has gear with base stats that switch depending on the current spec. Secondary stats are static, but being slightly worse at soloing isn't a major concern for basically anybody.

In games where you're expected to group together in order to level all the way up, this isn't necessary. But trying to have both just results in one or several aspects suffering. In the case of modern themepark MMOs, pre-cap at least, it's the group content that suffers.

I've just been leveling up as a tank haha, I'm to lazy to keep track of two gear sets. I have my tank leveling build which has the higher support attacks and less taunting and I have my dungeon set. Takes longer to kill things just a bit but I can solo all the 2+ bounty board missions. I'm sure this doesn't work for healers unfortunately.

This is my debacle as well. I'm brand spankin new to this game, played WoW for years, but I'm not familiar at all with this game. I want to level up in tank spec and do all of the dungeons along the way. However, I'm not sure if I want to take the heat from all the flaming that's going to happen when I cause a wipe. Yes, I'm already assuming I will get flamed for causing wipes.

Not to sound bad but just don't cause wipe hehe. I haven't heard too much complaining and stuff from bad heals or bad tanking. But I mean in this game everyone is expected to stay out of the red, and that's not limited to the tanks by any means so just stay out of red and you'll be fine. I've been tanking and haven't had any issue, but if you cannot stay out of the red stuff and get yourself killed its gonna be a hindrance no matter what class or role you play honestly

 

[Spiritreaver]

I've just been leveling up as a tank haha, I'm to lazy to keep track of two gear sets. I have my tank leveling build which has the higher support attacks and less taunting and I have my dungeon set. Takes longer to kill things just a bit but I can solo all the 2+ bounty board missions. I'm sure this doesn't work for healers unfortunately.

I was wondering about these. I always see people shouting about them in zone chat and I solo them so easily. I was curious if the other roles had it harder, lol.

But yeah, I do the same thing as you. I have more damage focus abilities when questing, and tank-y abilities when in groups. I even have a PVP set for when I'm questing in open world PVP. Things work out fine.

Also I can grab large groups of mobs and kill them rather easily. I have no clue if other classes can do the same. I won't lie though, if I see another person killing quest mobs I'll leech them.

 

[phierce]

LFGAF guild invite!!

 

[MrCaliaztec]

Stupid Wildstar can't circumvent the 7 day transfer lock. Looks like a bunch of people are back on Entity 1, but ill have to wait until like sunday/Monday oooooooh well!. I just spent like 2 plat getting my weaponsmith up so when I'm back on ill be able to make lots of shiny weapons for people.

 

[Aeana]

LFGAF guild invite!!

You need to leave your character name.

 

[Tabby]

And what region/faction/server.

 

[MrCaliaztec]

Anyone else find it kind of lame that you have to pay to craft items... I'm grinding tier 3 weaponsmith and aside from buying wiring and cores from the crafting vendor it costs 87 silver per item I craft just to craft it. I find this to be nothing more then a money sink and really kind of irritating as someone who just spent over a 1plat to grind up lower level weaponsmith.

 

[phierce]

You need to leave your character name.

And what region/faction/server.

Aim Boom, Entity 1

 

[racketpunch]

You need to leave your character name.

Can I get one as well?

Entity 1 - Exile - Clive Bixby

 

[-tetsuo-]

Are there a good amount of GAF players on Warhound? Guild up on there?

 

[jaundicejuice]

Transferred my tank, Krog Starkiller, from Entity 2 to Entity 1 now that the server seems to have stabilised, character transfer was instant. Now I will subject randoms in Protostar Academy to the pangs of my learning curve as a tank. Both of my Exile toons are now on Entity 1.

What's the policy on alts in the guild?

Anyone else find it kind of lame that you have to pay to craft items... I'm grinding tier 3 weaponsmith and aside from buying wiring and cores from the crafting vendor it costs 87 silver per item I craft just to craft it. I find this to be nothing more then a money sink and really kind of irritating as someone who just spent over a 1plat to grind up lower level weaponsmith.

I can't speak for the higher level crafts but the lower level crafts are suprisingly useful. I'm used to WoW where almost all trades are a time and money sink that generate nothing useful or worthwhile leveling up. I made a useful set of support gear when switching my warrior from DPS to tank.

 

[Nekrono]

Is there a bug or something that prevents you from changing realms at the moment?

I want to start playing on Warhound with some friends but whenever I click change realm I hear a ship traveling and nothing happens, when I go back It always says Entity PvE.

 

[Teknoman]

I'm gonna try to transfer back to 1 then and get a GAF guild invite.

EDIT: Scratch that, i'm stuck on Entity 2 for now since it says my character is busy.

 

[texhnolyze]

I've just realized that I've been doing under-leveled quests all this time.
After reading some questing guides, I should be doing the same level or 1 level above my character quests. I literally did almost every single quests all this time, damn.

 

[Dicer]

I made a friend...

 

[Spiritreaver]

Are there a good amount of GAF players on Warhound? Guild up on there?

I feel like the only person on Warhound in this thread. No one ever chimes in when I bring it up.

 

[Aeana]

I'm gonna try to transfer back to 1 then and get a GAF guild invite.

EDIT: Scratch that, i'm stuck on Entity 2 for now since it says my character is busy.

They fixed the transfer bug afaik so now just make sure you're not in a circle or a guild and make sure you don't have any mail.

 

[Teknoman]

They fixed the transfer bug afaik so now just make sure you're not in a circle or a guild and make sure you don't have any mail.

Oh that's right, I'm in the 2 circle. I'll fix that in just a sec. Seriously cant wait till we're all back in one place and can get some actual stuff done.

 

[erawsd]

Can I get a guild invite?

Entity 1 - Exile - Nazrakin Prime

 

[hbkajshdvfbkjhvgkahsgdfka]

Anyone need an invite to the guild on Entity 1? Going to stay on for a bit longer before bed to send invites.

 

[jaundicejuice]

Is it cool if I have an alt in the guild, it's a tank. Krog Starkiller. If not I wanna boot my Spellslinger from the guild. It seems there's more dire need for tanks than healers.

I just worked through Protostar Academy and only almost died once.

 

[Dance Inferno]

Anyone need an invite to the guild on Entity 1? Going to stay on for a bit longer before bed to send invites.

I would like an invite but I'm failing at transferring my character to Entity 1. How can I leave the circle I'm in on Entity-2?

Edit: In the meantime can you invite my alt - Joelle Nightbreeze.

 

[Teknoman]

Anyone need an invite to the guild on Entity 1? Going to stay on for a bit longer before bed to send invites.

On my way and transferring.

Teknoman Contra.

EDIT: I don't have any mail, and its still saying that my character isn't available for transfer.

 

[jaundicejuice]

Looks like I'm maintaining two sets of gear, there's no way I'm going to try and play through PVE as a tank. It takes me twice as long to kill anything.

 

[Aeana]

On my way and transferring.

Teknoman Contra.

EDIT: I don't have any mail, and its still saying that my character isn't available for transfer.

Oh, did you transfer from Entity to Entity-2 already? There's a 7 day wait period between transfers still.

 

[Teknoman]

Oh, did you transfer from Entity to Entity-2 already? There's a 7 day wait period between transfers still.

Ah that's probably the problem! lol I guess I bowed out of the circle too early then. Well if anyone can toss me an invite to the circle again, i'd appreciate it.

 

[Rhaknar]

Looks like I'm maintaining two sets of gear, there's no way I'm going to try and play through PVE as a tank. It takes me twice as long to kill anything.

I have 2 sets of gear, you get a shitton from quests so its easy

 

[Aeana]

Now that I've taken all 3 healers through Protogames Academy, I finally feel pretty confident in committing to one. Gonna go with spellslinger. I'll definitely level the others later, but I need to stick with one and run with it for now.

 

[Dead]

What are everyone's thoughts on the most fun and/or interesting paths?

I'm close to deciding to main my Aurin Esper, but I chose Adventurer, and Im seeing lots of people saying it's the overall worst?

 

[Rhaknar]

What are everyone's thoughts on the most fun and/or interesting paths?

I'm close to deciding to main my Aurin Esper, but I chose Adventurer, and Im seeing lots of people saying it's the overall worst?

You mean explorer and yes its the worst. Scientist is my favorite if only because the shit you need to do are always where you are questing aswell (except the cubes, you need to go out of your way for those)

Settler is by far the most interesting (and probably most useful)

 

[Aeana]

Explorer is my favorite. I like scientist but I find scanning things cumbersome because of how you have to target the stuff.

The paths exist because people like doing different stuff though.

 

[Spiritreaver]

I really like scientist, at least from a first playthrough. I don't think I could do it again though on alts. The scanning is only fun the first time around. I'd probably just pick soldier on alts.

Settler is okay, but it seems tedious.

 

[Dicer]

What are everyone's thoughts on the most fun and/or interesting paths?

I'm close to deciding to main my Aurin Esper, but I chose Adventurer, and Im seeing lots of people saying it's the overall worst?

I have an Aurin Esper but I went settler, and I have no gripes what so ever, Aurin will get hate cause they are the "cute" class...but that's always the case.

Edit: if anyone needs simple decor hit me up, Architect is fun

 

[texhnolyze]

Soldier is the way to go for me.
Anyway, do I have to level up my path as I level up my character? It's kinda lagging behind now, level 12 path on level 18 character.

 

[Nyteshade517]

Soldier is the way to go for me.
Anyway, do I have to level up my path as I level up my character? It's kinda lagging behind now, level 12 path on level 18 character.

highest Path is 30...Character can go to 50

 

[TharpDaddy]

Did Stormtalon earlier on my Engineer. I'm not sure DPS is for me. I've never played it in an MMO (always been a healer) and it just didn't feel as fun. I'd go back to playing my Esper but that character is on the Dominion side. I might do something i've never done and give tanking a try. If that's still a no-go i'll probably just play my Esper and get geared for raids, or level a healer on the Exile side.

 

[texhnolyze]

highest Path is 30...Character can go to 50

Nice to know.
Then I guess I'm well on track then!

 

[Rhaknar]

Did Stormtalon earlier on my Engineer. I'm not sure DPS is for me. I've never played it in an MMO (always been a healer) and it just didn't feel as fun. I'd go back to playing my Esper but that character is on the Dominion side. I might do something i've never done and give tanking a try. If that's still a no-go i'll probably just play my Esper and get geared for raids, or level a healer on the Exile side.

Do the pets just get insta gibbed with all the aoe going around during bosses?

 

[TharpDaddy]

Do the pets just get insta gibbed with all the aoe going around during bosses?

They haven't died on me yet. It may be like WoW where pets have massive resistance against aoe.

 

[kenbo]

Now that I've taken all 3 healers through Protogames Academy, I finally feel pretty confident in committing to one. Gonna go with spellslinger. I'll definitely level the others later, but I need to stick with one and run with it for now.

Why did you pick spellslinger of the others if I might ask?

 

[Rhaknar]

They haven't died on me yet. It may be like WoW where pets have massive resistance against aoe.

Good to know

 

[MrCaliaztec]

Just failed crafting on an awesome purple sword with 7% failure chance :'(

 

[Lowmelody]

Now that the servers have stabilized and I've got to experience the game as it was intended I decided it was time to cancel my WoW sub. Wildstar is home for me now. Man what a game. <3

 

[Rhaknar]

It saddens me that its 2015 and we must still drudge WoWs name out every time in any mmo thread.

I mean this in general, not a poke at you Melody

 

[texhnolyze]

It saddens me that its 2015 and we must still drudge WoWs name out every time in any mmo thread.

Because it still exists.

 

[Dicer]

It saddens me that its 2015 and we must still drudge WoWs name out every time in any mmo thread.

I mean this in general, not a poke at you Melody

It's the king, and what everyone holds up as the standard...of course it's going to be discussed.

But so far WS has WoW beat, and unless Legion brings something really exciting to the table, I think it'll be time to stick a fork in it.

Kinda makes me sad

 

[Rhaknar]

It's the king, and what everyone holds up as the standard...of course it's going to be discussed.

But so far WS has WoW beat, and unless Legion brings something really exciting to the table, I think it'll be time to stick a fork in it.

Kinda makes me sad

I assume you are talking about for you personally with the bolded because if not... oh boy

Street Fighter is also the "king" and you dont see people in other fighter threads shitting on it or comparing to it. You dont see "man this shooting is much better than cod lol" in general with shooters. Hell is there even a dota/lol rivalry like with mmos? From what little ive read about them people just agree that they are different enough and you either play one or another? I might be completely wrong here.