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[OldBoyGamer]

Why aren't they linked again? We have western games portraying women like either a ugly dude or a ugly 12 year old boy.
It's not about dressing alone, it's about feminine traits which even their faces are lacking let alone their bodies.

We keep getting buffed males in games and no one bats an eye.
As soon as we have an attractive women in gaming, everyone loses their shit, like it's a "very 90's design", as if the males somehow aren't the same shirtless buffed chads we have in games since the 80's.

I'm not begging to play as a fat middle aged dude in an action game, but let's cut the BS from this, shall we?
Let the women at least look feminine and not like someone a straight guy would avoid in a party and call "bro".

I think the problem with what your asking for is that you have a very narrow definition for what equates to a feminine look

It sounds like you're saying 'make women characters in games more sexy ffs!!'

Which is fine btw. If that's what you like that's what you like. I don't really have an issue with someone saying 'I only want to play as sexy ladies'.

But I think the days of that being the norm are long gone because it was always reliant on the niche of who we were years ago. We were all teenage boys playing games in our bedrooms on b+w tv's.

That's not the demographic anymore. Not in dev studios around the world and not in the worldwide player base. Gaming has moved on from that.

For me, I'm ok with it. I can find a sexy woman character in just as many games as I can find an ugly one. I like that. I've been playing games for some 40 odd years now and that diversity of characters has helped to keep me interested. But I want both not just one.

 

[Fess]

To me, those who say 'nothings wrong' with Alloy are just white knights or just people who needs to virtue signal.

Allow may perfectly resemble a realistic girl you could find irl, but she objectively has a weird face made on purpose to not look like a character you would feel sexually atteacted to.

Because, you know, sexual attraction is a crime. Having eyes and assigning procreation value instinctively is still tabu nowadays.

Lol nah that's not me, I just don't think Aloy is ugly. To me, once I started playing HFW it was clear that the mocking pre-launch was just fanboy nonsense. And here you are calling her "Alloy", so let me ask: Have you played the game?

 

[Faithless83]

I think the problem with what your asking for is that you have a very narrow definition for what equates to a feminine look

It sounds like you're saying 'make women characters in games more sexy ffs!!'

Which is fine btw. If that's what you like that's what you like. I don't really have an issue with someone saying 'I only want to play as sexy ladies'.

But I think the days of that being the norm are long gone because it was always reliant on the niche of who we were years ago. We were all teenage boys playing games in our bedrooms on b+w tv's.

That's not the demographic anymore. Not in dev studios around the world and not in the worldwide player base. Gaming has moved on from that.

For me, I'm ok with it. I can find a sexy woman character in just as many games as I can find an ugly one. I like that. I've been playing games for some 40 odd years now and that diversity of characters has helped to keep me interested. But I want both not just one.

You failed to understand the notion of female. Let me address it again.

This is feminine:

The face has a triangular shape (looking at you squared jaws females), no feminazi haircut. Even though she is slim, no big boobs or anything else for that matter, it is CLEARLY a female.
Japanese dev, going for a realistic look.


This is what the westerns pass for women lately:

From this to this? PS3 to a PS4 late gen game:

Don't try to pin this on "we were teenagers back them". It's clearly a one sided change the west is doing:

 

[MacReady13]

You failed to understand the notion of female. Let me address it again.

This is feminine:

The face has a triangular shape (looking at you squared jaws females), no feminazi haircut. Even though she is slim, no big boobs or anything else for that matter, it is CLEARLY a female.
Japanese dev, going for a realistic look.


This is what the westerns pass for women lately:

From this to this? PS3 to a PS4 late gen game:

Don't try to pin this on "we were teenagers back them". It's clearly a one sided change the west is doing:

Spot on my friend. Making females look more realistic doesn't mean we want them to look like males! I'm not asking for massive boobs and an ass you could lay a tray on- I just want a fucking female who looks like a female!

 

[StreetsofBeige]

This is what the westerns pass for women lately:

I see one female (Black chick with pink hair), one which is hard to tell (upper left with goggles), and then 8 dudes.

How the hell is The Omen looking kid in upper right corner a female?

 

[OldBoyGamer]

You failed to understand the notion of female. Let me address it again.

This is feminine:

The face has a triangular shape (looking at you squared jaws females), no feminazi haircut. Even though she is slim, no big boobs or anything else for that matter, it is CLEARLY a female.
Japanese dev, going for a realistic look.


This is what the westerns pass for women lately:

From this to this? PS3 to a PS4 late gen game:

Don't try to pin this on "we were teenagers back them". It's clearly a one sided change the west is doing:

What games are you playing? I don't recognise any of those women characters in the 'western' section. And I play a lot of games.

What games and characters are in your western shots??

Also. I noticed you Showed a full body shot to make your point of feminine and only head shots of your 'ugly' women. Bit sly.

 

[Faithless83]

What games are you playing? I don't recognise any of those women characters in the 'western' section. And I play a lot of games.

What games and characters are in your western shots??

Also. I noticed you Showed a full body shot to make your point of feminine and only head shots of your 'ugly' women. Bit sly.

Such a keen eye you got there my friend. I did this intentionally in the hopes you asked me for full body shots.. Let me get them for ya.

Fully covered, even the head. No straight male gaze there, if I can help it. Hair? Why even bother rendering it?

Outer Worlds is the name of the game, all of the shots were the female characters

This one is a bonus:

Not a female, but clearly the inspiration for western devs lately on how to portrait "Realistic" female characters.

 

[OldBoyGamer]

Such a keen eye you got there my friend. I did this intentionally in the hopes you asked me for full body shots.. Let me get them for ya.

Fully covered, even the head. No straight male gaze there, if I can help it. Hair? Why even bother rendering it?

Outer Worlds is the name of the game, all of the shots were the female characters

This one is a bonus:

Not a female, but clearly the inspiration for western devs lately on how to portrait "Realistic" female characters.

Lol

 

[-Minsc-]

*shrugs*

 

[Hinedorf]

Go watch porn

 

[AJUMP23]

Feminine beauty is a social construct that should be rejected in all forms. Real beauty lies within.

 

[Bkdk]

Recenty I've been playing more mobile games because their designs do celebrate more femine beauty, though their game quality and gacha elements is pretty annoying, however what can I even do? Sony hates attractive women in their games. Microsoft seems indifferent and their recent games(AOE4, Forza) is fun, but I do need some sexualized and attractive looking female char art in gaming from time to time. Seems like I can't get it from western AAA industry anymore.

 

[MacReady13]

Go watch porn

We aren't here to jerk off over games. This is a discussion as to why we can't see half decent looking women in games anymore. Why is having a good looking female a fucking crime? More to the point, why is having a female who actually resembles a female so frowned upon in western gaming?

 

[Faithless83]

Lol

Gotcha, huh? So yeah, it's not about how they dress, but how fugly they look as to represent some ugly transgender.
Maybe, just maybe, it has something to do with the blue haired artists shaming people that don't follow the agenda.

The western industry is plagued by "devs" like these (Mass Effect Andromeda/Bloodlines 2 writer):

Wake up and stop simping for this "cause" with no winners.

Don't like it? Vote with your wallet, it's as simple as that.
There are plenty of Japanese games in the horizon that don't follow this BS, which aren't a buggy mess as western games are at launch.

"But I want to play a western game so bad."
Buy it used, no money will go towards the devs this way.

 

[The Cockatrice]

Funny how ppl keep posting that outer worlds example. Move the fuck on. Cyberpunk ring any bells? Lost Ark? Plenty of modern games with great and sexy female characters. Maybe you should expand your gaming portfolio my dudes. Theres also some other good shit coming as well like Baldurs Gate 3, Project Eve, etc. Have you seen some of Aloys costumes? You can literally see her full rendered boobs with the photomode. Fucking 6 pages of nothing, jesus gaf.

 

[CherryFalls]

Why are the anti attractive woman in games crowd so angry? lol

 

[Faithless83]

Funny how ppl keep posting that outer worlds example. Move the fuck on. Cyberpunk ring any bells? Lost Ark? Plenty of modern games with great and sexy female characters. Maybe you should expand your gaming portfolio my dudes. Theres also some other good shit coming as well like Baldurs Gate 3, Project Eve, etc. Have you seen some of Aloys costumes? You can literally see her full rendered boobs with the photomode. Fucking 6 pages of nothing, jesus gaf.

Outer worlds wasn't the only example here and you know it.
How they touched Aloy's face model but the male models are 1:1 to their actors. I've provided some MK11 examples as well.

I could go on how this only affects the western devs and how some artists were shammed about their female designs (one of them was a female artist...)

If you're happy with the "realistic" old woman running and jumping (because fuck you cisgender male), fine.
Calling it a non issue is tasting shit from a nutella bottle and saying "it tastes like nutella to me".

 

[KingGhidorah]

You failed to understand the notion of female. Let me address it again.

This is feminine:

The face has a triangular shape (looking at you squared jaws females), no feminazi haircut. Even though she is slim, no big boobs or anything else for that matter, it is CLEARLY a female.
Japanese dev, going for a realistic look.


This is what the westerns pass for women lately:

From this to this? PS3 to a PS4 late gen game:

Don't try to pin this on "we were teenagers back them". It's clearly a one sided change the west is doing:

female designs of Western games are absolutely atrocious!!

 

[Woopah]

There's a variety of views on this, but the most important thing is that people are consistent. If your view is "only super sexy women are allowed to appear in video games" then you should also be criticising every game that features non-sexy men.

My own view is that people are varied and different and developers can include any type of people they want. There shouldn't be any "people who look like this aren't allowed to appear in video games".

 

[Goalus]

It's how some woman reacted when Trump was elected I believe.

This woman had a huge meltdown cuz Trump won the 2016 election back then

Thanks guys!
For letting me know the occasion and for pointing out that it is indeed a woman.

 

[Ðuelist]

Isn't there a new Bayonetta coming out though?

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Isn't there a new Bayonetta coming out though?

Supposedly coming out in 2022 for Switch.

As crazy as it seems, games on Nintendo seem to have the least care for SJW kinds of issues, censorship etc... when this was the brand that during the 90s didn't even want red blood.

 

[Faithless83]

There's a variety of views on this, but the most important thing is that people are consistent. If your view is "only super sexy women are allowed to appear in video games" then you should also be criticising every game that features non-sexy men.

What games have non-sexy men?
Aside from fighting games that actually have a variety of characters, please direct me at them. People lost their shit about Thor in GOW 2.

My own view is that people are varied and different and developers can include any type of people they want. There shouldn't be any "people who look like this aren't allowed to appear in video games".

Yeah, why only females are affected by this "diversity though? To the point of touching the actresses model and having the actors 1:1 to their mocap. Asking the real questions here.

Isn't there a new Bayonetta coming out though?

If you consider the first two games the third has gone a bit of a "tone down". Besides this is a japanese dev. A Western dev doing this is nuts.

Before the "bububut cyberpunk." crowd comes over, I ask them to look at the map and find where CDPR is located.

 

[Faithless83]

Supposedly coming out in 2022 for Switch.

As crazy as it seems, games on Nintendo seem to have the least care for SJW kinds of issues, censorship etc... when this was the brand that during the 90s didn't even want red blood.

Nintendo of Japan took over. This was a Nintendo of America thing.

 

[Ðuelist]

What games have non-sexy men?
Aside from fighting games that actually have a variety of characters, please direct me at them. People lost their shit about Thor in GOW 2.


Yeah, why only females are affected by this "diversity though? To the point of touching the actresses model and having the actors 1:1 to their mocap. Asking the real questions here.


If you consider the first two games the third has gone a bit of a "tone down". Besides this is a japanese dev. A Western dev doing this is nuts.

Before the "bububut cyberpunk." crowd comes over, I ask them to look at the map and find where CDPR is located.

Also isn't there another super crazy sexy character? Project Eve was it? I think it may be possible in the US. Just not as common or super over sexualized. I don't mind sexualization when necessary by either gender.

 

[KingGhidorah]

If we view games as art, then the developers should have the freedom to create characters based on their fantasy or story premise.

but problem is, in today's fucked up Western world, social justice warriors/advocacy groups are imposing their own definition of what female should look like in video games

Game artists are told to create the most bizarre environment, the most mysterious places, the scariest monsters, ......but for the female, create the most bland, the most generic female designs......what an absolute horseshit

 

[KingGhidorah]

Also isn't there another super crazy sexy character? Project Eve was it? I think it may be possible in the US. Just not as common or super over sexualized. I don't mind sexualization when necessary by either gender.

That's from Korean developer, chances are Sony is going to ask them to change that.......fuck woke Sony!

 

[Faithless83]

That's from Korean developer, chances are Sony is going to ask them to change that.......fuck woke Sony!

Doubt it, otherwise it wouldn't be on their showcase.

 

[Ðuelist]

That's from Korean developer, chances are Sony is going to ask them to change that.......fuck woke Sony!

Doubt it, they let them show that full trailer on SOP. All the trailers are vetted.

 

[Woopah]

What games have non-sexy men?
Aside from fighting games that actually have a variety of characters, please direct me at them. People lost their shit about Thor in GOW 2.


Yeah, why only females are affected by this "diversity though? To the point of touching the actresses model and having the actors 1:1 to their mocap. Asking the real questions here.

Its not only women affected though. Below are a variety of male characters who I would say were not designed to be sexually attractive, while also looking quite different from each other.

And there's nothing wrong with that. There's all sorts of ways men can look and there's no issue with any of them being included in a video game. Its the same for women.

 

[Beechos]

Yes thats one thing we can still rely on from japanese devs

 

[rofif]

Also isn't there another super crazy sexy character? Project Eve was it? I think it may be possible in the US. Just not as common or super over sexualized. I don't mind sexualization when necessary by either gender.

cant wait. hope they wont change anything

 

[Hinedorf]

We aren't here to jerk off over games. This is a discussion as to why we can't see half decent looking women in games anymore. Why is having a good looking female a fucking crime? More to the point, why is having a female who actually resembles a female so frowned upon in western gaming?

No really dude, just go jerk off. This is a really stupid hill to want to stand on but you do you.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Its not only women affected though. Below are a variety of male characters who I would say were not designed to be sexually attractive, while also looking quite different from each other.

And there's nothing wrong with that. There's all sorts of ways men can look and there's no issue with any of them being included in a video game. Its the same for women.

The key difference is men can be portrayed anywhere from fat comedy slob to steroid meat head to the stereotypical "good looking brown haired guy" in most action games, and guys dont care. This goes for movies too.

But women do care and complain and how they are portrayed. But amazingly it's focused on gaming.

In movies, you still get the hot starlets dolled up. Even in an action movie, their make up looks good and if they just came back from the salon. Yet, some reason you don't see women complaining there are too any hot actresses unrealistically done up, and instead more average looking female actresses should be hired.

 

[Woopah]

The key difference is men can be portrayed anywhere from fat comedy slob to steroid meat head to the stereotypical "good looking brown haired guy" in most action games, and guys dont care. This goes for movies too.

But women do care and complain and how they are portrayed. But amazingly it's focused on gaming.

In movies, you still get the hot starlets dolled up. Even in an action movie, their make up looks good and if they just came back from the salon. Yet, some reason you don't see women complaining there are too any hot actresses unrealistically done up, and instead more average looking female actresses should be hired.

But many guys also care about how women are protrayed. A lot. This thread has several people complaining about how people look in video games.

The people complaining about about Abby having muscles are not all women. The people complaining about Aloy's face are not all women. The people complaining about Jesse Faden's chin not being pretty enough are not all women.

 

[kiphalfton]

They want you to think that this is a woman, we are fully down the rabbit hole for now.

Or they just wanted 99% of guys to be jealous of her arms.

 

[Snakeeyes646]

Not allowed nope.

 

[manfestival]

Or they just wanted 99% of guys to be jealous of her arms.

shes on roids bro. ITS NOT FAIR

 

[FalsettoVibe]

I'm glad this thread can exist here. On some other site there would be perma-bans left and right.

 

[Lethal01]

We are celebrating feminine beauty more than ever because we are no longer sticking to a very specifc type of beautiful women and are appreciating women who are more diverse whether that means having more meat on their bones, being older or having stronger jaws and shorter hair it's still great.

 

[Woggleman]

My wife said once that a lot of gamers are mad that Abby is in better shape than they are and I think the same applies to Aloy.

 

[The Cockatrice]

Outer worlds wasn't the only example here and you know it.
How they touched Aloy's face model but the male models are 1:1 to their actors. I've provided some MK11 examples as well.

I could go on how this only affects the western devs and how some artists were shammed about their female designs (one of them was a female artist...)

If you're happy with the "realistic" old woman running and jumping (because fuck you cisgender male), fine.
Calling it a non issue is tasting shit from a nutella bottle and saying "it tastes like nutella to me".

What a fucking loser lmao.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

But many guys also care about how women are protrayed. A lot. This thread has several people complaining about how people look in video games.

The people complaining about about Abby having muscles are not all women. The people complaining about Aloy's face are not all women. The people complaining about Jesse Faden's chin not being pretty enough are not all women.

Im talking men or women complaining about their own gender. Typically:

Men: Dont care about what men look like, but will care about what women look like

Women: Same as above

 

[MacReady13]

No really dude, just go jerk off. This is a really stupid hill to want to stand on but you do you.

I'm standing on a stupid hill? Asking for women to actually look like women in video games? Again, i'm not asking for porn star look a likes. I'm asking for characters that actually resemble women to appear in video games! Since when has wanting females to look like females become such a crime in video gaming circles?

 

[Goalus]

Allow may perfectly resemble a realistic girl you could find irl, but she objectively has a weird face made on purpose to not look like a character you would feel sexually atteacted to.

I agree that she looks weird, but are you sure that they made her look like this on purpose? Maybe it is the best they were able to achieve.

 

[Ev1L AuRoN]

Unlikely. We can't have beautiful women in games, movies, TV shows and magazines. The east is our final frontier.

 

[Ezquimacore]

Kassandra is pretty hot, she would fuck you up too.

 

[midasmulligan]

Can you define 'feminine beauty' please?

Otherwise your post is just asking if games will ever have female character you personally find attractive.

And just to give a bit more context to my question. Feminine beauty is incredibly subjective. In fact it's almost completely subjective.

So I'd just like some more fine detail to what you mean. And btw, if you mean 'I want more tits and ass' that doesn't necessarily make you a bad person. It just means your asking for something more personal.

What The Scientifically 'Perfect' Female Body Looks Like

Even having the "perfect female body" hasn't stopped her from being a victim of body shaming.

www.yourtango.com

 

[KingGhidorah]

Kassandra is pretty hot, she would fuck you up too.

That's a dude with long hair

 

[Ezquimacore]

That's a dude with long hair

I know you have bigger tits than her, So I understand.