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Will most 360/PS3 games age badly?

Played Battlefield 3 a few days ago and for a 4 year old game, it still looked good. Uncharted 1 also looks good for a 8 year old game.
 
Usually games going for realistic graphics age poorly so probably, but some had a great mix of artistic and realistic looks like KZ2. That game will look great for a long time.
 
As said in my RTTP, Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2 has aged so bad. The aliasing is horrendous.

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Gameplay wise, they are probably going to hold up better than PS2 game on the whole- Camera control was standardized from the start of the generation and probably won't be itterated on any more as long as dual analog sticks remain the norm for controllers.
 
They won't age nearly as poorly as the previous two generations did. There are plenty of PS3 games that will look just fine years or more down the road.
 
Games before 2009 will probably look pretty bad, since there are a ton of games that, while some don't, are sub -HD up-scaled, Just Sub-HD, or HD in some areas but low res in others.
 
I stopped liking PS3/360 graphics a long time ago.

The generation will be remembered for characters that looked like plastic dolls because they never opted for subsurface scattering.

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A PS3 and a PS4 game play exactly the same. The visuals are the only thing that won't age with grace but from a gameplay point there is nothing on the current gen that is any huge step from the previous one.
 
I am switching back and forth between current and last gen and so far most aaa games have aged brilliantly
 
Nah. Both the graphics and the gameplay mechanics haven't changed much since the new consoles premiered. I still return to Forza 4 and Just Cause 2 on my 360 quite frequently.
 
For me, here is a ranking of generations based on how badly they have aged or will age:

1. Atari 2600/etc.
2. PSX/N64/Saturn
3. PS2/GameCube/Xbox/Dreamcast
4. Wii (not including with the other two because of the vast disparity)
5. NES/Master System
6. 360/PS3
7. SNES/Genesis
8. PS4/XB1/Wii U

So no, in short, for me last gen will hold up rather well.
 
Its just... a case of expectations and personal experience.

All generations age badly when compared to the new one. more expansive environments, better AI, gameplay systems, lightning effects, resolution, etc,

But, in terms of gameplay design and artstyle, they hold up well imo there are PS2 games where i think look pretty decent with some touch ups and a resolution upgrade, the same for 360, PS3 and Wii U.

You see Persona 5 for example, its going to look good on PS3 and thats not even a AAA game.
 
I think that generation will age a lot better than generations prior to it, and part of that will be the boom in 'indie' development, refocusing on a simplified graphics style. There were a lot of games that jumped onto the style that 'Arcade' developers were utilizing to make full-scale, big budget games but not trying to take the blockbuster approach. Just a handful of AAA, blockbuster-style games will really age well from a graphical point of view, I'd say Grand Theft Auto V, Red Dead Redemption, the Naughty Dog games, and a handful of others.

Many will age poorly, but perhaps more slowly than generations like PSX/N64/Saturn.
 
AgeEighty said:
For me, here is a ranking of generations based on how badly they have aged or will age:

1. Atari 2600/etc.
2. PSX/N64/Saturn
3. PS2/GameCube/Xbox/Dreamcast
4. Wii (not including with the other two because of the vast disparity)
5. NES/Master System
6. 360/PS3
7. SNES/Genesis
8. PS4/XB1/Wii U

So no, in short, for me last gen will hold up rather well.
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Yeah, I'd pretty much entirely agree with this list. Most last-gen games are going to be fine in the long-term.
 
No. Been playing some older 360 games lately and they look pretty good to me. Anything from 2009 or later still looks fine. It will be good for years to come really.
 
They still look good. PS2 is borderline (although I'm guessing OutRun 2 and RalliSport Challenge on Xbox still look excellent), depending on the game/tech. PS1, though... most of those from that gen are tough to go back to. Even from a gameplay perspective, devs were still coming to terms with how to handle 3D.
 
I think play mechanics were refined enough last gen that most titles will stay playable. I don't mind graphics from the PS2 era, but controls are often a huge barrier to reentry these days. I don't think we'll say that about many last gen games.
 
Games that prioritized visuals over a stable framerate and reasonably good resolution probably won't age particularly well.
 
360/PS3 games from 2005 to 2008 (and a fair number in 2009 and 2010, but fewer and fewer every year) have generally aged pretty gracefully, if they were ever good to begin with. There was a pretty great deal of experimentation and diversity, and as a result you've got a lot of games that are unique, or that are actually among the most technologically advanced versions we've got of a particular style of game that's gone out of vogue.

360/PS3 games from 2011 on (as well as a good deal from 2010 and 2009) have, with rare exceptions, aged incredibly poorly, because they've overwhelmingly been made in the same handful of styles, with the same handful of design principles, using formulaic iterations on well-worn concepts that have continued well into the Xbone/PS4 generation, all but guaranteeing that each game is going to be made irrelevant by its successor.
 
I don't think they will age as badly as the whole PS1, N64 era. A lot of those game had shit gameplay and only got successful because they were the new thing when it came to pushing console 3D visuals. There are a lot of PS3/360 games that had much better pc version, yet I enjoyed the same because the mechanics were solid. In fact, I haven't really seen a substantial jump in quality from something like Demon's Souls, Dark Souls to Bloodborne. I mean sure the latter looks great, but it's not a mindblowing difference.
 
Graphically? Of course many will. I would imagine it would be the ones going for realism like you said.

Mechanically though? I guess that will depend on the game, but I still feel like things haven't really changed that much from the PS2 generation for a lot of genres. I mean games like Devil May Cry 3, Burnout 3, Wind Waker, etc. still play quite well today.
 
I often think back to the time when you had to look at the illustrations in the booklet to get an idea of what a monster or item was supposed to look like.

The way I experience the history of graphics, the ps3/360 level will always be pretty good. The the 7th gen graphics level, I can identify small objects from a distance and see expressions on characters faces, in addition to being able to see very far. The framerates are often on the rough side, but worth putting up with for many of the games.
 
I would say the "everything grey and brown" aesthetic of a lot of earlier games that gen has aged badly, but really that would be a lie as I always thought it looked bad outside a few games.

Outside of that not really, beyond of the standard bad framerates and image quality (which doesn't seem to be changing too much this gen either).
 
You're going to be annoyed with the color palette and aliasing in a few years' time, most likely. I already was by the time I started PC gaming.
 
AgeEighty said:
For me, here is a ranking of generations based on how badly they have aged or will age:

1. Atari 2600/etc.
2. PSX/N64/Saturn
3. PS2/GameCube/Xbox/Dreamcast
4. Wii (not including with the other two because of the vast disparity)
5. NES/Master System
6. 360/PS3
7. SNES/Genesis
8. PS4/XB1/Wii U

So no, in short, for me last gen will hold up rather well.
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I agree with this list, except I'd put the NES much higher. Less because of graphics and more because of game design.
 
The poor frame rate is definitely going to be a problem long-term. So many games running ~26 fps because they wanted some impressive open-world or fanchy graphics.
 
What will really date them is choppy frame rates, screen tearing, sub-720p resolution, and long loading times.

The games that manage to feel like finely-tuned console games will age well. The ones that feel like they're asking for a little too much from the hardware will age poorly.

360/PS3 was the first generation where the majority of games were based on multiplatform game engines that just didn't run that great on a system with 512MB of memory and a lousy in-order CPU.
 
Most shouldn't be too bad. I view that gen as kind of similar to the 16 bit gen. While most 8 bit games haven't aged great (IMO), most SNES and Genesis games are still fine to play today.

360/PS3 are in that boat for me as well, while a lot of PS1/N64 and PS2/Xbox/GC games haven't aged as well (especially the PS1/N64 stuff).
 
In my experience 3D games don't generally age very well. There are always exceptions though


dmaul1114 said:
Most should be too bad. I view that gen as kind of similar to the 16 bit gen. While most 8 bit games haven't aged great (IMO), most SNES and Genesis games are still fine to play today.

360/PS3 are in that boat for me as well, while a lot of PS1/N64 and PS2/Xbox/GC games haven't aged as well (especially the PS1/N64 stuff).
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We'll have to wait and see. It's still way too early
 
Visually, I think games with stylised graphics like Borderlands or Valkyria Chronicles will age fine, but those that attempted to get as close as possible to photorealistic effects will have their graphics date fairly quickly.

For me it doesn't really matter, the biggest stumbling block for older games is the poor cameras and early 3D controls when twin analogue wasn't standard. So seeing as even early 360/PS3 games are largely exactly the same controls as this gen, I'll still be playing them in 10 years time. I still play 8/16 bit games when they control well, the visuals don't bother me at all.
 
Robert at Zeboyd Games said:
I remember going back to Lost Odyssey recently and thinking "Wow, this still looks pretty great!" Lost Odyssey is over 7 years old.
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I agree. Love that game and it still looks good.

Granted, graphics aren't a huge deal to me and I can play most last gens with little issue. The only system I sometimes struggle with is original Playstation games.

Some PS3 ports were so terrible though that they won't be fun to play down the road. Hell, they weren't fun at release.
 
Yes due to their bland artstyles and low framerates. There are numerous heavily stylized PS2 and Wii games in my collection which are far more visually appealing (especially in motion) than the vast majority of the PS3 and 360 libraries.
 
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