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[Skeff]

Would be dumb on their part. If I'm in Sony's position I ain't dropping shit I'm reaping it. If MS do price match I'm adding a game and probably a ps plus bonus.

I suppose it depends on Production costs and PS+ tie rates, if those align then $299 could be a reasonably small loss, their analysts could indicate that dropping to $299 earlier would allow a higher install base earlier in the generation, which would mean more expensive and thus less 3rd party exclusives from MS and the "everyone has a ps4" mentality allowing them to stay at $299 later in the generation. So a kind of losses now for gains later mentality. But I doubt it'll happen, IMO, Sony will offer:

Now: Infamous Bundle £385
27 May: Watch Dogs Bundle £375
July: Knack Bundle £350 or Knack+TLoU £375
September: Destiny+Knack £375 Destiny and 1 year PS+ £399 Knack £349
Xmas: TLoU/Destiny/Knack £385

Or something to that effect, Also in November I think maybe they will start a PS+ campaign and advertise with titles such as AC4.

 

[Abdiel]

Funny, no one is talking about the improved controller that will have a built-in headphone jack like the DS4.

Thanks to the move to x86, the generation after this one will be backwards compatible. The winner this gen will have a huge advantage next-gen which makes winning now absolutely critical. MS will pull out every stop to get back into the mix.

Sony better step up.

This mentality confuses me. Pulling out every stop? Ms may have deep pockets, but that doesn't mean the gaming/hardware divisions can just go crazy with spending. If they start eating a ton of the cost for each system sold, that's diminishing their budgets for everything else. They're accountable for a bottom line. What exactly do you think the board will do? Approve a blank check just to win? And win where? They are only in close quarters in what, two territories, where last gen they had locked down? The rest of Europe already has access to the system, even though it hasn't officially launched there, and there's already almost no demand for it. What stops will they pull out to radically alter brand perception and preference on a global scale?

 

[Cueil]

PS4 is cheaper - the public knows this
PS4 is more powerful - the public also knows this

PS4 is getting great third-party and first-party support. The gap will only widen.

Right now Microsoft has the upper hand as a gaming console. I has more exclusives and more AAA games. Sony has filled out their library with indie titles that I bought for pennies on the dollar they are selling them for on PSN from Steam.

 

[2345425]

Funny, no one is talking about the improved controller that will have a built-in headphone jack like the DS4.

Thanks to the move to x86, the generation after this one will be backwards compatible. The winner this gen will have a huge advantage next-gen which makes winning now absolutely critical. MS will pull out every stop to get back into the mix.

Sony better step up.

Sony needs to step up? They're not the ones with a more expensive, weaker console that's been outsold 2.5-3 to 1 so far this year.

 

[Deku Tree]

Sony already has MS by the throat IMO. First thing MS has to do is get their neck out of Sonys Guillotine. Only after that can they try to go for Sonys throat.

 

[JetBlackPanda]

These threads are always good for a laugh. I especially love the delusional XBone people.

You can love your X1 and love the exclusives and it can still be a worse console then the PS4.

Get over the console war stuff and just play what you love

 

[Cueil]

This mentality confuses me. Pulling out every stop? Ms may have deep pockets, but that doesn't mean the gaming/hardware divisions can just go crazy with spending. If they start eating a ton of the cost for each system sold, that's diminishing their budgets for everything else. They're accountable for a bottom line. What exactly do you think the board will do? Approve a blank check just to win? And win where? They are only in close quarters in what, two territories, where last gen they had locked down? The rest of Europe already has access to the system, even though it hasn't officially launched there, and there's already almost no demand for it. What stops will they pull out to radically alter brand perception and preference on a global scale?

Agreed. Also remember that Microsoft is a healthy company with a ton of cash sitting in the bank. Microsoft is in this for the long haul and I believe that they'll cut the price of the console when they are ready to do so and not as a reaction to Sony. Microsoft may not be in the lead, but they are playing this E3 from a position of strength.

 

[MustacheBandit_]

No, match at best, hook with exclusive games. Cheap doesn't work on it's own.

its working for PS4

 

[Slashlen]

Agreed. Also remember that Microsoft is a healthy company with a ton of cash sitting in the bank. Microsoft is in this for the long haul and I believe that they'll cut the price of the console when they are ready to do so and not as a reaction to Sony. Microsoft may not be in the lead, but they are playing this E3 from a position of strength.

With MS's cash reserves, they could cut the price to $1 and win the gen whenever they want. As you say, they're in this for the long haul and they are willing to sacrifice everything the company has earned up to this point to win console warz.

Obviously they're just toying with Sony right now...

 

[Shining Sunshine]

Right now Microsoft has the upper hand as a gaming console. I has more exclusives and more AAA games. Sony has filled out their library with indie titles that I bought for pennies on the dollar they are selling them for on PSN from Steam.

Uuuh what more exclusives?

Even if you count Titanfall, which is pretty much the only notable game since Xbone's launch, PS4 has three times more exclusives.

 

[Boombloxer]

Uuuh what more exclusives?

Even if you count Titanfall, which is pretty much the only notable game since Xbone's launch, PS4 has three times more exclusives.

I tend to ignore those posts, people can't be bothered to fact-check so they just spout some bullshit.

 

[Shining Sunshine]

I tend to ignore those posts, people can't be bothered to fact-check so they just spout some bullshit.

And where are your facts?

Since launch Xbone has Titanfall, Kinect Sports, and maaaybe PVZ but that's definitely coming to PS4 some day.

PS4 has inFamous, Fez, Towerfall Ascension, Outlast, Mercenary Kings, Final Fantasy 14, Dead Nation.

 

[2345425]

And where are your facts?

Since launch Xbone has Titanfall, Kinect Sports, and maaaybe PVZ but that's definitely coming to PS4 some day.

PS4 has inFamous, Fez, Towerfall Ascension, Outlast, Mercenary Kings, Final Fantasy 14, Dead Nation.

I think he was referring to the post you quoted, not yours. Let's not make this a list wars thread.

 

[Shining Sunshine]

I think he was referring to the post you quoted, not yours. Let's not make this a list wars thread.

oh, well sorry boombloxer lol
I just woke up.

 

[Tsundere]

IMO, the Xbox One should have been cheaper from the getgo since it's a weaker console.

 

[Abdiel]

Agreed. Also remember that Microsoft is a healthy company with a ton of cash sitting in the bank. Microsoft is in this for the long haul and I believe that they'll cut the price of the console when they are ready to do so and not as a reaction to Sony. Microsoft may not be in the lead, but they are playing this E3 from a position of strength.

You say agreed, and then the points you make are contradictory to my post. I'm saying that MS is a massive company, but that doesn't mean all those resources get directed at their gaming aspects. Gaming is a tiny fraction of their profit margins, and if it can't pull its own weight, they're not going to just empty the coffers to prop it up.

MS is not going into E3 in a position of strength. They are going into E3 with a position of justifying themselves. They have to prove to customers why they should bother with their system, to try and gain some actual momentum. Let's be realistic, the Xbox One has already been price cut in the US. It's marked down 50 dollars in almost every major retailer, with a game included free. If they stop offering those bundles at those prices, their sales will flatline entirely. It's been at that price since, what, a week after TF launched? People are not going to go back to spending 500 on the system in the US, even with a game included. That ship has sailed.

 

[cerulily]

Isn't it a fairly common story that Microsoft's investors put a lot of pressure on MS to fold the gaming division since it never makes profit in order to focus on business services?

I cannot see taking a BIGGER hit on the console in that kind of environment.

Maybe once the Xbone has more content and they can make up a lot of the cost on licenses to game makers, but honestly what exclusive has come out since xbone launch?

 

[Lorul2]

I meant to say:

My guess a $299 Xbox one "core" with 2TB green HD; no blue ray; Kinect is now an add on; and Xbox live gold free for the first month. Stores get to sell download codes; but current Xbox one and blue ray games will be a thing of the past (eventually). That is probably the reason why they are trying to clear stock now.

People from GAF are so funny. Half the "critics" of my post couldn't look past the Giga-byte Terra-byte error while the other half missed the entire point of the post.

This is what Microsoft was thinking about doing before. I just put it in this thread as a possibility. No you wouldn't be able to play Blu-ray disks, and it would be a pain to download all your games to your Hard drive, but at $299 a "GAFer" wouldn't even consider it? I like Kinect, but I said to make it optional to reduce costs and make it believable. Personally I would by the "Core" system I detailed above with Kinect add on thrown in today for $299. I don't like the idea of Downloading all of my games, but at $299, I could live with it.

 

[Majmun]

The X1 already seems to cost €399 in mainland Europe.

I'm sure the pricedrop will have a bigger effect in NA.

 

[THEaaron]

You can strip away the kinect from the Xbox One to sell it, but you can't strip away the R&D costs that came with it.

Dunno if it is a good idea to remove kinect.

 

[Schweinehund]

I think the 400 w/o kinect rings true. Maybe 400 with titanfall will be their bundle. I can't see the $350 standalone, even without kinect.

 

[Tabular]

So XBone isn't selling terribly but it's being beaten quite comfortably by PS4 in hardware sales in most of the countries Worldwide (some suggest it's 7 million to 4 million at the moment). Even more worryingly is retailers selling off unsold Titanfall bundles in not only the US but also the UK, previously two of the 360's strongest markets.

Do you think MS will be very aggressive and fight back as early as E3 by removing Kinect from the box and pricing XBone at $349.99, undercutting PS4 by $50 ?.

If so do you think it will have much effect on global sales and would Sony be in a position to drop the price of PS4 by $50 less than a year after launch ?.

I'm expecting $399 with Kinect to be announced around e3.

 

[Nervous Sausage]

And where are your facts?

Since launch Xbone has Titanfall, Kinect Sports, and maaaybe PVZ but that's definitely coming to PS4 some day.

PS4 has inFamous, Fez, Towerfall Ascension, Outlast, Mercenary Kings, Final Fantasy 14, Dead Nation.

Nothing against those games, but besides Infamous (which I finished in 7 hours, never to play again) all of them have been on PC for ages (Outlast was awesome) and Fez I played years ago on 360. Not hatin', just sayin'. Great for people that missed them or don't game on a PC though I guess. I know Xbox One isn't in a much better position because Titanfall is on PC. I can't wait for E3 personally because I think both companies need to announce a shitload of games. Would be most excited for some Rare announcements not related to Kinect to be honest.

 

[ypo]

Well MS already killed Sony last E3 so what's the point?

http://www.giantbomb.com/xbox-one/3045-145/forums/ms-we-will-kill-sony-at-e3-1438545/

 

[Face it Tiger..]

With MS's cash reserves, they could cut the price to $1 and win the gen whenever they want. As you say, they're in this for the long haul and they are willing to sacrifice everything the company has earned up to this point to win console warz.

Obviously they're just toying with Sony right now...

Your obviously delusional. I don't know how you came up with this, as if ROI and investors don't matter at all.

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

Well MS already killed Sony last E3 so what's the point?

were we watching the same E3?

 

[kinoki]

Right now Microsoft has the upper hand as a gaming console. I has more exclusives and more AAA games. Sony has filled out their library with indie titles that I bought for pennies on the dollar they are selling them for on PSN from Steam.

What exclusives are that? Dead Rising 3, Plants vs Zombies and Ryse? We don't want to count the "also on PC"-exclusives like Warframe, War Thunder, etc, or the "also on PC and last gen" like Fez, Titanfall, etc.

It all boils down to which eco-system you want to support. Go ahead and dimish the role of indies. It's not like Minecraft is a system seller.

 

[2345425]

I meant to say:

My guess a $299 Xbox one "core" with 2TB green HD; no blue ray; Kinect is now an add on; and Xbox live gold free for the first month. Stores get to sell download codes; but current Xbox one and blue ray games will be a thing of the past (eventually). That is probably the reason why they are trying to clear stock now.

People from GAF are so funny. Half the "critics" of my post couldn't look past the Giga-byte Terra-byte error while the other half missed the entire point of the post.

This is what Microsoft was thinking about doing before. I just put it in this thread as a possibility. No you wouldn't be able to play Blu-ray disks, and it would be a pain to download all your games to your Hard drive, but at $299 a "GAFer" wouldn't even consider it? I like Kinect, but I said to make it optional to reduce costs and make it believable. Personally I would by the "Core" system I detailed above with Kinect add on thrown in today for $299. I don't like the idea of Downloading all of my games, but at $299, I could live with it.

This is a terrible idea, especially if there isn't still a version of the console with a disk drive. The majority of sales on consoles still come from disk-based games.

 

[Boombloxer]

oh, well sorry boombloxer lol
I just woke up.

All good. It's breakfast time anyway.

This is what Microsoft was thinking about doing before. I just put it in this thread as a possibility. No you wouldn't be able to play Blu-ray disks, and it would be a pain to download all your games to your Hard drive, but at $299 a "GAFer" wouldn't even consider it?

No, because its only part of the problem. You're suggesting that they try the same thing that got them laughed out of the room last summer, why is this suddenly a good idea now?

Nothing against those games, but besides Infamous (which I finished in 7 hours, never to play again) all of them have been on PC for ages (Outlast was awesome) and Fez I played years ago on 360. Not hatin', just sayin'. Great for people that missed them or don't game on a PC though I guess.

Dead nation isn't. And guess what? it doesn't decrease the offering, it means more good games, period.
The Binding of Isaac/D3, etc coming to PS4 is a good thing if you liked those games. I game on both, and those are both day 1 buys.

 

[Graphics Horse]

Your obviously delusional. I don't know how you came up with this, as if ROI and investors don't matter at all.

It was obviously sarcasm.

 

[jhmtehgamr20xx]

What I don't get is this. Let's say that retailers are dumping the price because the Xbox One is not selling and taking up inventory and is clogging the system. We then have a Supervisor at Best Buy stating that it is the case that inventory is dead and it is not moving so they are going to dump the price and take a hit on it to get rid of it.

Now if your were a business person and you bought a ton of product and it does not sell and clogs up your stock rooms to the degree that you are taking a loss on said product, just because you want to get rid of it, would you buy more of them from the manufacturer?

That is what is odd about some of these people claiming this. If you buy a product for a National retailer to have in all of your stores across the country and that product does not sell and is causing a clog in the system and you take such drastic measures to mark it down, wouldn't you let's say put that in your weekly circular to get the word out? Anyone else find it odd that this has not happened?

And back to my other point, if the Xbox One is such a piece of shit and it sells like shit and you as a retailer are taking a loss on the unit, then why on earth would you, as a retailer go out and buy a shit load of Titanfall bundles to have in your stores? Why would you place even more orders of the standard edition to have in your stores if it is selling so poorly and you are taking a loss on it?

Can anyone explain this to me? It makes no business sense to buy more of the same product and then invest in buying into another of the same product with a game if it is doing so poorly?

Look at it this way; retailers never stopped ordering Gamecubes, Dreamcasts, or Saturns either. They just reduced their order amounts. Those systems eventually sold, and they had the capacity to buy them, so why turn away a potential profit. In fact after a while their bad sales likely worked out better for the retailer than Nintendo or Sega, because a much larger (if not all) percentage of the money went to the retailer. Kind of similar to used game sales at Gamestop.

And let's be fair, in its own vacuum XBO is selling phenomenally well; it's the fastest selling Xbox in Xbox history. Retailers are likely satisfied with sales in that context. The problem for the system is it's being completely outdone in sales by the PS4 at the exact same time, so its own accomplishment is massively reduced when placed in comparison to its rival, and retailers know this. Microsoft knows it. They know if it continues this way and the gap grows, there are less incentives to give shelf space to the XBO.

All of these actions are being done in immediate retaliation to the PS4's sales momentum, and its threat level to the XBO ecosystem growing. It's not that XBO is doing bad, it's that it's losing marketshare to the PS4 and those losses will magnify in the future unless they do something about it now. Hence price cuts.

 

[Nervous Sausage]

were we watching the same E3?

If we're going by trailers and game announcements instead of crowd pandering (no DRM), I preferred Microsoft's conference. Trailers for Killer Instinct, MGS 5, Sunset Overdrive and Dark Souls 2 were genuinely exciting. Quantum Break, Dead Rising 3, Ryse were interesting because they hadn't been seen before Like Killzone and Knack had. Only things I liked from the Sony conference was FF15 and Kingdom Hearts announcements. Too many boring bits like the Sony movie service talk and the Ass Creed demo. I genuinely think less people would be saying Sony dominated with their conference if it wasn't for the 'no we don't have DRM' shit.

 

[Cthulhu_Steev]

I meant to say:

My guess a $299 Xbox one "core" with 2TB green HD; no blue ray; Kinect is now an add on; and Xbox live gold free for the first month. Stores get to sell download codes; but current Xbox one and blue ray games will be a thing of the past (eventually). That is probably the reason why they are trying to clear stock now.

People from GAF are so funny. Half the "critics" of my post couldn't look past the Giga-byte Terra-byte error while the other half missed the entire point of the post..

No, it was actually funny because you wrote 'gb' instead of 'GB'. Sorry mate, I didn't read the rest. 'Blue Ray' was quite funny as well because that's who my Dad buys his porn from.

 

[ChiefofCitadelSecurity]

MS is not going into E3 in a position of strength. They are going into E3 with a position of justifying themselves. They have to prove to customers why they should bother with their system, to try and gain some actual momentum. Let's be realistic, the Xbox One has already been price cut in the US. It's marked down 50 dollars in almost every major retailer, with a game included free. If they stop offering those bundles at those prices, their sales will flatline entirely. It's been at that price since, what, a week after TF launched? People are not going to go back to spending 500 on the system in the US, even with a game included. That ship has sailed.

Absolutely this.

I think they have to have something other than a price drop at E3. They have to let their fans and other possible buyers know that they are still here. that they are still in this. You are absolutely right in that they have to justify themselves.

I suppose it depends on Production costs and PS+ tie rates, if those align then $299 could be a reasonably small loss, their analysts could indicate that dropping to $299 earlier would allow a higher install base earlier in the generation, which would mean more expensive and thus less 3rd party exclusives from MS and the "everyone has a ps4" mentality allowing them to stay at $299 later in the generation. So a kind of losses now for gains later mentality. But I doubt it'll happen, IMO, Sony will offer:

Now: Infamous Bundle £385
27 May: Watch Dogs Bundle £375
July: Knack Bundle £350 or Knack+TLoU £375
September: Destiny+Knack £375 Destiny and 1 year PS+ £399 Knack £349
Xmas: TLoU/Destiny/Knack £385

Or something to that effect, Also in November I think maybe they will start a PS+ campaign and advertise with titles such as AC4.

I thought about this I just didn't see them doing it and yeah, they'll probably do you what just said.

 

[not_so_special]

Right now Microsoft has the upper hand as a gaming console. I has more exclusives and more AAA games. Sony has filled out their library with indie titles that I bought for pennies on the dollar they are selling them for on PSN from Steam.

tales from the ass 2 electric bogaloo

 

[2345425]

No, because its only part of the problem. You're suggesting that they try the same thing that got them laughed out of the room last summer, why is this suddenly a good idea now?

Exactly. His idea is fucking insane. A glorious fusion of the PSP Go and Microsoft's DRM plans.

 

[ypo]

Right now Microsoft has the upper hand as a gaming console. I has more exclusives and more AAA games. Sony has filled out their library with indie titles that I bought for pennies on the dollar they are selling them for on PSN from Steam.

Shitty bot confirmed?

 

[Walter Matthau]

The opportunity to go for Sony's throat is over. If they want to sell the hardware, they need to put out compelling software, preferably in genres that Sony is deficient in. If it's possible to get rid of Kinect to lower the price, they should.

 

[kyser73]

Nothing against those games, but besides Infamous (which I finished in 7 hours, never to play again) all of them have been on PC for ages (Outlast was awesome) and Fez I played years ago on 360. Not hatin', just sayin'. Great for people that missed them or don't game on a PC though I guess. I know Xbox One isn't in a much better position because Titanfall is on PC. I can't wait for E3 personally because I think both companies need to announce a shitload of games. Would be most excited for some Rare announcements not related to Kinect to be honest.

Which will be a lot of console owners.

Also - some posts on this thread are implying MS has dropped the RRP of the XBone - they haven't, all these discounts are retailer driven.

 

[jhmtehgamr20xx]

Originally posted by Slashlen

With MS's cash reserves, they could cut the price to $1 and win the gen whenever they want. As you say, they're in this for the long haul and they are willing to sacrifice everything the company has earned up to this point to win console warz.

Obviously they're just toying with Sony right now...

Hmmmm.....no sir. I don't like it

If we're going by trailers and game announcements instead of crowd pandering (no DRM), I preferred Microsoft's conference. Trailers for Killer Instinct, MGS 5, Sunset Overdrive and Dark Souls 2 were genuinely exciting. Quantum Break, Dead Rising 3, Ryse were interesting because they hadn't been seen before Like Killzone and Knack had. Only things I liked from the Sony conference was FF15 and Kingdom Hearts announcements. Too many boring bits like the Sony movie service talk and the Ass Creed demo. I genuinely think less people would be saying Sony dominated with their conference if it wasn't for the 'no we don't have DRM' shit.

And if Sony never held the February reveal, people wouldn't be saying this. It's a bit unfair in that sense b/c it's like expecting them to show twice as much content as MS to still be considered having an equal showing, and that's unjustified.

Also odd of you to use 3rd party games like MGS5 and DS2 to give MS the edge (and likewise FF15 and KHIII for Sony, tho in KH's case practically 95% of the sales are gonna come from PS4 anyway so might as well be treated like an exclusive), knowing those are on other platforms. Wherever they get revealed shouldn't factor into propping up one system over another unless they're a genuine exclusive.

And no, saying "No DRM" is not crowd-pleasing, it's common sense. People were jubilant for common sense.

 

[Cthulhu_Steev]

tales from the ass 2 electric bogaloo

Ah, give him some slack. He made that post, then abdiel made one that he then agreed with even though he actually thought the opposite what abdiel was saying.

It's tricky to rock a rhyme to keep a string of thoughts together sometimes. On any other day he's probably give it to Nintendo.

Hmmmm.....no sir. I don't like it

heh, Slashlen those prices everywhere! It's probably Druckman slashing prices now he's run out of employees.

 

[benny_a]

No I has the best exclusives!

 

[Not a Jellyfish]

Nope, most I see is a sku without Kinect to match Sony's price.

Even that is unlikely because it would ultimately go back on their road map of Kinect features and vision for their control of the console UI.

They are in a really tough position.

 

[Dragonborn]

Right now Microsoft has the upper hand as a gaming console. I has more exclusives and more AAA games. Sony has filled out their library with indie titles that I bought for pennies on the dollar they are selling them for on PSN from Steam.

First of all, that's completely untrue.

Agreed. Also remember that Microsoft is a healthy company with a ton of cash sitting in the bank. Microsoft is in this for the long haul and I believe that they'll cut the price of the console when they are ready to do so and not as a reaction to Sony. Microsoft may not be in the lead, but they are playing this E3 from a position of strength.

Secondly, just because MS has a ton of money, doesn't mean they're willing to take significant losses from the X1. If they were, they would have eaten the loss from the start and launched at $399.

You remember in the lead up to E3, everyone thought the X1 would be cheaper? Logic was, MS has such deep pockets, they'll undercut Sony. That, of course, turned out completely false, as did any speculation of a subsidized model.


That's the difference between MS and Sony that some people seem to ignore. For MS, Xbox is a blip on the radar, a tiny fraction of their overall revenues. They may not be willing to take losses in order to reap a small return.

On the other hand, we all know Sony is in pretty big financial turmoil; however, PlayStation represents a big, big part of their company. It's one of the few segments that is actually making headway. They'll do what they need to and put their full weight behind it. Sure, Sony may not have as much cash but as a company they still wield considerable weight.

 

[kyser73]

No, it was actually funny because you wrote 'gb' instead of 'GB'. Sorry mate, I didn't read the rest. 'Blue Ray' was quite funny as well because that's who my Dad buys his porn from.

Your dad buys his porn?

You're a bad son.

 

[Cthulhu_Steev]

no disassemble shitty bot!*

Spoiler

*Number Two is alive!

Your dad buys his porn?

You're a bad son.

I don't want to know what he's into! My mate downloads his Dad's porn, and sometimes music. He told him he'd love Lady GaGa because she's like a dirty Kylie.

 

[Lorul2]

No, it was actually funny because you wrote 'gb' instead of 'GB'. Sorry mate, I didn't read the rest. 'Blue Ray' was quite funny as well because that's who my Dad buys his porn from.

"No Worries" Google talk to text doesn't work well for me when I'm sleepy.

 

[2345425]

No I has the best exclusives!

Plot twist: it's actually the Wii U

 

[muddream]

Right now Microsoft has the upper hand as a gaming console. I has more exclusives and more AAA games. Sony has filled out their library with indie titles that I bought for pennies on the dollar they are selling them for on PSN from Steam.

At least someone gets it. Essentially, the PS4 is an entry-level steambox with the battery life of a handheld. I'd only recommend it to my poor friends, but of course I don't have any of those.

 

[MisterXDTV]

The console war Worldwide is already over Europe and Japan don't even know about the Bone.
This was true even last gen but this this time:

-the two consoles came out at the same time:
- PS4 was cheaper
- PS4 will always be more powerful
- so Multiplats will be better on PS4 for the next few years

So even if MS does cut the price I don't know if it's gonna make a difference even in the US.

If I had 400$ and have to choose with both consoles selling at the same price, I would take the more powerful one and that is always gonna be the PS4.

I don't think MS will sell XONE at 300$ anytime soon, so nothing is gonna change.