_Alkaline_
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Mamesj said:
IIRC Pikmin sold 1.61 million and Pikmin 2 sold just over a million.
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will Rerto Studios' next game be a million seller?
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IIRC Pikmin sold 1.61 million and Pikmin 2 sold just over a million.
D.Lo
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They have the tech, they have the talent, and they did the best franchise in gaming proud.
I'm sure if they have an opportunity to do more of a 'crowd pleaser' title then the dense, complicated Metroid gameplay they've been on - say, a more straightforward action shooter with some kind of original twist - then they have as much chance as anyone of succeeding.
Hell, whatever they make next will almost automatically be one of the best looking Wii games. Best looking game on the biggest userbase is a great start for any game.
I'm sure if they have an opportunity to do more of a 'crowd pleaser' title then the dense, complicated Metroid gameplay they've been on - say, a more straightforward action shooter with some kind of original twist - then they have as much chance as anyone of succeeding.
Hell, whatever they make next will almost automatically be one of the best looking Wii games. Best looking game on the biggest userbase is a great start for any game.
NinjaFromTheFuture
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My guess.Mamesj said:
_Alkaline_
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Mamesj said:
Put it this way - if a new Nintendo IP can sell over 1.5 million on the struggling mess that was the Gamecube, then I'm certain a new Nintendo IP can sell significantly better on the Wii, given that facts show how much better software sells on the Wii.
There's absolutely no reason why Retro's new game can't do well.
Grecco said:
Okay I'm going to go with surfergirl's rumor and make my own speculation which is pulled out of nowhere but who cares. :lol
I'm guessing by Zelda related, surfergirl might mean something that plays like Zelda but isn't necessary Zelda. What game has Retro worked on that is close and similar to Zelda? Ravenblade. Yes this is coming from nowhere but hey we can hope for the best, right?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=vGwcNdUozlY
Maybe Nintendo Power is hinting Ravenblade's return
Maybe something pulled out of my ass could come true. E3 couldn't be any closer.
Death_Born
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Linkhero1 said:Okay I'm going to go with surfergirl's rumor and make my own speculation which is pulled out of nowhere but who cares. :lol
I'm guessing by Zelda related, surfergirl might mean something that plays like Zelda but isn't necessary Zelda. What game has Retro worked on that is close and similar to Zelda? Ravenblade. Yes this is coming from nowhere but hey we can hope for the best, right?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=vGwcNdUozlY
Maybe Nintendo Power is hinting Ravenblade's return
Maybe something pulled out of my ass could come true. E3 couldn't be any closer.
Hmm....it definitely looks like Zelda, especially the lava monster (basically an exact copy of the one in TP). It actually looks better, since there are lots more enemies you fight at once. I wouldn't mind Retro doing something like this....but I can't help but wonder what their take on Zelda would be.
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I believe he means an already established Nintendo IP.AniHawk said:
Rez>You said:
And has already been stated Pikmin was not an established Nintendo IP yet it sold over a million... on the Gamecube. Unless Retro's new game is an absolute mess, it should reach a million.
Also I would argue that a large part of the people that bought Corruption are "core" gamers and, as such, would know of Retro and be very interested in their next game.
Linkhero1 said:Okay I'm going to go with surfergirl's rumor and make my own speculation which is pulled out of nowhere but who cares. :lol
I'm guessing by Zelda related, surfergirl might mean something that plays like Zelda but isn't necessary Zelda. What game has Retro worked on that is close and similar to Zelda? Ravenblade. Yes this is coming from nowhere but hey we can hope for the best, right?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=vGwcNdUozlY
Maybe Nintendo Power is hinting Ravenblade's return
Maybe something pulled out of my ass could come true. E3 couldn't be any closer.
Er Nintendo Power? you mean the king thing that was Fire Emblem.
The Surfer Girl rumor was a First Person spinoff in the Zelda universe. Which will be interesting if true.
And think about it Metroid Prime is a "spinoff" per se of 2D metroid. Wonder if its an actual Zelda game in First Person.
Mr. Pointy
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Surfergirl didn't say anything about 'first person', but she did say Zelda spinoff.
grandjedi6
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Grecco said:
Why do people keep saying that the Nintendo Power tease is going to be Fire Emblem? Nothing has been confirmed
grandjedi6
Master of the Google Search
Grecco said:
What kind of " top-secret cover story" would that be when Fire Emblem DS was mentioned and shown in that very same issue :/
i see no reason to believe that rerto studios won't sell a million or multimillions or billions of their next game, and i wish them all the success in the world so they may all arrive at e3 in helicopters wearing enormous white zoot suits word to cliffy
retro studios, however, haven't the faintest chance of selling any games to anybody now that they're no longer sucking the curdled blood of the dead metroid franchise
retro studios, however, haven't the faintest chance of selling any games to anybody now that they're no longer sucking the curdled blood of the dead metroid franchise
grandjedi6
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What if Retro does the next Zelda?drohne said:
JasonUresti
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drohne said:
Piss on his grave by making better Metroid games than he did?
jaundicejuice
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It took drohne long enough.
You don't find this funny?pakkit said:
Anyways, I think if Retro is doing another (established) Nintendo franchise then they should easily be able to sell a million copies. On the other hand, if they're doing a totally new IP they'd probably need to do a lot of advertising to sell a million copies.
Tim the Wiz
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Jinfash said:
I think he's realized how ridiculous his initial post is. In it, he suggests that Prime 2 and Prime 3 aren't million sellers and that the first game in the series barely reached a million sold. After finding these foundations of his case dismantled (Prime sold nearly two million, both sequels have broken a million, and Corruption is on track to reach the original), which he could have avoided by actually looking up the blind claims he so quickly made, he realized that his entire case was flawed by sub-standard knowledge on his own part. Therefore, his hypothesis that Retro Studios is a developer (first party, by the way) under pressure from Nintendo to deliver when they have been delivering quite highly on a critical and financial level is laughable at best and GameFAQs-type speculation at worst, and it is the reason why he would, along with everyone else, try to ignore the first post as much as possible.
This is a bit of a silly thread. But I just thought I'd step in to say that I think Retro are an extremely talented bunch.
MP3 is probably the only game where I got so friggin' sucked in to it that I forgot I was playing on a Wii. If every Wii game was the quality of MP3 then the HD/SD gap wouldn't hurt so much. Kudos to Retro.
MP3 is probably the only game where I got so friggin' sucked in to it that I forgot I was playing on a Wii. If every Wii game was the quality of MP3 then the HD/SD gap wouldn't hurt so much. Kudos to Retro.
Chris Remo
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Yaceka said:
That made me search Google for "once there was a man named larry," which turned up only one result, and it wasn't that story, but it did include this story.
It looks like it's from the 2002-2003 school year, and it was a fourth grade class, so I guess the kid who wrote it is now in high school. I wonder if he played Ace Combat 6 and...whatever the latest eight Worms games are.
There was also this:
When I was in fourth grade, I never wrote about video games.
gutshot said:
Pikmin was also a Miyamoto game and Nintendo's first party titles were fine on the gamecube. it was the third party support that made the GCN a mess. It's also one of those quirky obviously-Japanese games...there was even a hit single associated with the first one in Japan.
If Retro makes a more "western" style game and new IP (yes, I know it's still Nintendo IP oh wise and brilliant internet masters of deduction) it won't crack a million, unless EU and the U.S. go crazy over it (you can pretty much count out Japan, unless it's *insert activity here* Training)
AndoCalrissian
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I wouldn't mind if they took a crack at a new Geist game... that concept is interesting and my guess is that Retro would take it where it needs to go. They'd have to do compelling multiplayer though... the first one had some interesting stuff in that regard.
Shadowlink
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It can't be fire emblem because it was covered in the same issue.Grecco said:
evilromero
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What are the available facts?LakeEarth said:
PhoenixDark
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What does it matter? Wii games don't have to reach a million in sales to turn a nice profit right?
I just hope they do something good that they want to do, not something they're forced to make
I just hope they do something good that they want to do, not something they're forced to make
slow-twitch
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evilromero said:
0 fact = 0 copy sold.
Duh.
Tim the Wiz said:
So my numbers were off, big whoop. Can't you see that even your own post states that Prime sold more than twice as many copies as the sequels? My point stands, despite your hangup on a technicality. And fuck yeah Retro is under pressure from Nintendo, they have yet to deliver sales that even approach the level of Rare games on Nintendo systems. Bungie was first party too, doesn't mean anything.
I have a lot of respect for Retro Studios due to their accomplishments with the impressive Metroid Prime series and am looking forward to whatever their next game will be.
It's a shame that Metroid Prime games caused a split between the 2D Metroid fans and FPS fans since Prime's game design was so innovative unique despite staying true to the franchise's roots. Of course, it's understandable why it didn't sell as well as it deserved to. For starters, like it has been said before, the Metroid franchise has pretty much been one of one of the less popular Nintendo franchises. To make matters worse, Prime's unique game design made it a tougher game to sell to Nintendo fans as well as FPS fans who seemed to be more comfortable playing traditional FPS games.
Personally, I'd really love to see Retro Studios make the next Star Fox game and one that goes back to its N64 roots. Of course, However, I'd also be happy about them working on an original IP because Nintendo could certainly use more of those.
I don't expect to hear any news about Retro's next project at E3.
It's a shame that Metroid Prime games caused a split between the 2D Metroid fans and FPS fans since Prime's game design was so innovative unique despite staying true to the franchise's roots. Of course, it's understandable why it didn't sell as well as it deserved to. For starters, like it has been said before, the Metroid franchise has pretty much been one of one of the less popular Nintendo franchises. To make matters worse, Prime's unique game design made it a tougher game to sell to Nintendo fans as well as FPS fans who seemed to be more comfortable playing traditional FPS games.
Personally, I'd really love to see Retro Studios make the next Star Fox game and one that goes back to its N64 roots. Of course, However, I'd also be happy about them working on an original IP because Nintendo could certainly use more of those.
I don't expect to hear any news about Retro's next project at E3.
Journeywalker
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The Rerto/Bungie/Rare comparison is pretty weak. Bungie and Rare were always independent development studios whose publishers had holding interest in the companies. Rare existed long before they got involved with Nintendo, and Bungie existed long before they became the Halo factory. The loyalty of the leadership (Jason Jones; Chris and Tim Stamper) was always to the companies they founded. Retro was founded with Nintendo's money, and they initially got the same indepedence to choose their own projects. Following founder Jeff Spangenberg's mismanagement in Retro's early years, which were marked by a distinct lack of focus, Nintendo upended the tea table. Instead of four concurrent projects, Retro would be cut back to a single development team with a singular focus: Metroid. Spangenberg was forced out. Nintendo eventually replaced him with Micheal Kelbaugh, who had worked at NOA for 15 years before taking the job at Retro. Simply put, all the leadership positions are filled with "Nintendo" people. Retro is Nintendo.