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Will robots take my job?
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Silent Chief
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There's no difference between a software developer and a computer programmer.
I'll guess here that the software designer has a university degree and that the computer programmer has a college degree.
Robot Carnival
Member
tour guide or escort
91%
travel guide
5.7%
what the difference there?
91%
travel guide
5.7%
what the difference there?
I assume the first one escorts someone around a specific place, whereas the second one plans a whole trip.
3.8%... But I'm not strictly just a "writer", it's more niche and esoteric than that, so i think it's safe to assume that's a bit high.
Lol
Lol
Tezzeractor
Member
We are seeing CG actors in live action works now, after all.
I guess "tour" = brief show around one location (can be audio), while "travel" = someone either planning a journey for you or actually travelling with you for hours/days/weeks, like on hikes or by car. I've done tours that lasted 4-5 days, like with this one guy in Morocco showing us loads of amazing sights and giving us history and shit.
I guess professors don't exist.
I probably got replaced by a robot during my sleep and didn't know I'm now a robot. Only I don't sleep. Or is that because I'm a robot dundundun.
Well I seem to be somewhere in between:
Computer and Information Research Scientists 1.5%
Commercial and Industrial Designers 3.7%
I should be fine then.
I probably got replaced by a robot during my sleep and didn't know I'm now a robot. Only I don't sleep. Or is that because I'm a robot dundundun.
Well I seem to be somewhere in between:
Computer and Information Research Scientists 1.5%
Commercial and Industrial Designers 3.7%
I should be fine then.
https://www.bls.gov/ooh/computer-and-information-technology/computer-programmers.htm#tab-2
https://www.bls.gov/ooh/computer-and-information-technology/software-developers.htm#tab-2
BLS seems to think software developers just write UML or something.
Chances of my position being replaced through automation are zero. I head my own study program, teach game design and production.
There are reasonably big sections of my work where automation could significantly help out, and I hope they get automated as soon as possible because it will make me more valuable. With the time it would free up, I could do more individualized teaching and more ambitious special topics. Eg. my game programming intro course could use a MOOC for drilling beginner programming problems, but I haven't seen anything close enough to what I need, and I don't have the economies of scale required to start building my own MOOC either.
There are reasonably big sections of my work where automation could significantly help out, and I hope they get automated as soon as possible because it will make me more valuable. With the time it would free up, I could do more individualized teaching and more ambitious special topics. Eg. my game programming intro course could use a MOOC for drilling beginner programming problems, but I haven't seen anything close enough to what I need, and I don't have the economies of scale required to start building my own MOOC either.
If society continued to progress then yes robots would have taken all of our jobs.
Thankfully now that America and most other countries are regressing we have successfully been able to avert the possibly robot apocalypse/utopia and are now just headed towards the regular type of apocalypse we are familiar with because of 80s movies.
Thankfully now that America and most other countries are regressing we have successfully been able to avert the possibly robot apocalypse/utopia and are now just headed towards the regular type of apocalypse we are familiar with because of 80s movies.
Skellig Gra
Member
3.5% totally safe. This is why my son will be forced to get a computer science degree.
shawnbuddy
Member
I think it's extremely misleading because their description of software developer sounds a lot more like a software engineer, a role they don't have at all. For general computer programmers the rate is 42 percent, which sounds about right or even low because a lot of the lower end programming tasks are being automated and abstraction levels are getting higher.
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I think this is a little disingenuous because part of being a programmer is learning and adapting. Bunch of guys I work with who did exactly what you're describing are still working and programming well into retirement age.
As another post said what they're describing is really an entry level software developer and there will always be the equivalent of this position in maybe a different/higher level language. If anything the demand will get higher (for our company competition for new grads is crazy atm) cause there is going to be so many specialized pieces of software the only way to learn them will be to train on the job.
It's like saying a doctor from the 80s wouldn't have a job today cause of all the new procedures and techniques. Well that's why you have a good foundation and learn those things as time goes by.
Ecto311
Member
Knew my job would eventually go away. Everyone says 2020 will be a great year -.-
I do the same thing and can't understand how robots are going to run lines in fucked up homes at least on my end. Maybe one guy running a drone or some kind of thing that scares old people.
Doominated
Member
0.65%
Computer systems analyst
A lot of my day to day stuff comes from end users who cause most of their problems though, so as they get replaced by robots less of me will be needed.
Just gotta keep trying to be the best and beat the job cuts I guess.
Computer systems analyst
A lot of my day to day stuff comes from end users who cause most of their problems though, so as they get replaced by robots less of me will be needed.
Just gotta keep trying to be the best and beat the job cuts I guess.
Vulcano's assistant
Banned
How terrifying
I'm not a hunter
Extra Sauce
Member
Russian bots are already taking care of that.
but then you click software engineer (developer?) and it's 4%.. soooo. i guess computer programmers need to learn to work with clients and be more agile.
Skellig Gra
Member
Eh, my first job is to prepare him for his adult life. I'm not going to encourage him to do something that will be obsolete.
What kind of AI is gonna be given some OOP hierarchy and function signatures and spit out functional code?
hockeypuck
Member
So, is that physicians 20% and surgeons 0.02%?
Not my job, but nearby field: Says chances of a painter getting replaced are 94%, which makes little sense to me. Unless they develop painting robots capable of taping off, patching, priming and painting a surface without fucking up all the edges. Heck, translucent stains on wood alone would be near impossible for a robot to do right, as every single stain reacts differently to wood, and every piece of wood is unique. Also, most painting companies get by on cheap hispanic workers and old equipment. No fucking way they'd drop the cash for a robot.
I would say most of a PM's job could be automated, like you said. PM enters in some numbers about estimates, costs... voila here's when your project is due, automatically prints out report statuses, changes in cost or schedule, automatically assumed risks.
Project Management probably isn't exactly a 'targeted' position to be automated though like truck driving.
Admiral Woofington
Member
Construction manager, 7.1% of being taken over so totally safe.
This will be one of those jobs where automation is possible in certain areas but as a whole so much is dealing with changes in circumstances you need somebody who can do critical thought and put a/b together to come up with new plans on the spot. Until we have AI with human level thinking this isn't a worry.
This will be one of those jobs where automation is possible in certain areas but as a whole so much is dealing with changes in circumstances you need somebody who can do critical thought and put a/b together to come up with new plans on the spot. Until we have AI with human level thinking this isn't a worry.
CreepingFear
Member
I need to graduate from help desk to network or systems administrator. Only 3% chance.
There are quite a few jobs that are "safe" from being completely automated. That doesn't mean that they will be in demand or that various aspects of that job can't be made more efficient to an extent that fewer people will be needed and/or less value is attributed to what duties remain for a human to perform.
89% for technical writers?
I doubt that. I'm pretty sure you can't make a machine read a developer's mind, figure out what they're trying to say, and then translate that into layman's terms in a way that also fits the random quirks that your company/boss may want to apply.
Boss: Hey, can you change every instance of "customer" to "client" in all of our documents?
Robot: Done.
Boss: Cool. Now can you fix the look of these boxes? I don't like how they look.
Robot: Fix how?
Boss: They look a little too "poppy" to me.
Robot: Fuck this.
I doubt that. I'm pretty sure you can't make a machine read a developer's mind, figure out what they're trying to say, and then translate that into layman's terms in a way that also fits the random quirks that your company/boss may want to apply.
Boss: Hey, can you change every instance of "customer" to "client" in all of our documents?
Robot: Done.
Boss: Cool. Now can you fix the look of these boxes? I don't like how they look.
Robot: Fix how?
Boss: They look a little too "poppy" to me.
Robot: Fuck this.
Prepare for us to be off-shored instead! YAY!!!
Ooccoo
Member
I studied to become a translator: 38% risk. It's part of why I decided to change careers, I'm pretty sure translation will be automated sooner rather than later.
Now I'm working in the special education field (not a teacher though): less than 1% risk, there's a labor shortage (especially men) and you start at around $42k per year, which is pretty decent. More importantly, I feel like I make a difference, whereas in translation I didn't even know who my clients were, it kind of reminded me of shadow writers.
I also don't think robots will ever be able to deal with autism spectrum disorders and such.
Now I'm working in the special education field (not a teacher though): less than 1% risk, there's a labor shortage (especially men) and you start at around $42k per year, which is pretty decent. More importantly, I feel like I make a difference, whereas in translation I didn't even know who my clients were, it kind of reminded me of shadow writers.
I also don't think robots will ever be able to deal with autism spectrum disorders and such.
Glad I switch my major from accounting Jesus.
I'm not surprised, robots can do all the data entry and number crunching already. 90% of my first accounting job was putting stuff into Excel spreadsheets, robots can do that faster and more accurately than I ever can. Being a basic accountant isn't going to help in the future lol.
I looked up my current job, which is close to Financial Analyst, and it's at ~24%. Not too bad considering the field. I imagine once AIs are fully functional that will see a sharp rise though, lol
Is translation really going to be automated so easily, though? I can see machine translations getting better, but I imagine that localization will be incredibly hard to automate. Machines will have trouble reading between the lines and coming up with culturally appropriate equivalents to common phrases, puns, jokes, idioms, and so on.
marimorimo
Member
I was actually thinking of going back to school to study accounting. Guess it's a bad idea after all? Doom-level.
Funny enough, my original profession of interpreter/translator is "safer" at 38%. And I thought we were going the way of the Dodo with Google Translate.
Funny enough, my original profession of interpreter/translator is "safer" at 38%. And I thought we were going the way of the Dodo with Google Translate.
Ugh do jobs like these actually exist? If my first programming job was like that I would have quit right away. If you are going to bother writing pseudo code just write the actual code.
I guess I'm too young to never really have worked in any kind of a waterfall software development project. Basically we just get rather loose specs and write the code. The "skill" of a developer is mostly measured in how much he knows about the business domain and thus can fill the holes without asking anyone. On the other side there is still the ones building the tools/libraries who actually have to know how to code really well (which is where I've moved onto from the "normal" line coder jobs). Also before the AIs can program themselves someone has to program them (well at least the tools used to teach the ML algos)
I have no idea how they derived at their numbers and if any real thought went behind it, but I could imagine a robot like a robot vaccuum cleaner could do large flat surfaces rather autonomously, and you may not need to tape off, because the robot will be precise enough not to spill over corners. Obviously you still need people for the more intricate areas and to do patchwork, but one painter could set up a few robots and mop up the remaining bits, meaning the three other painters are robotized away. It's not a complete profession that disappears, just scores of people within the profession.
I see your point, but like I said, most painting companies are very small companies, we're talking a dozen people, half of them immigrants paid under the table. They don't have the bankroll to drop on robots.