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[MisterXDTV]

When Sony does something, it's god's work.
It's only bad when others do it.

Seems like the opposite to me.

Sony is doing what PC and Xbox already did.

The just made the mistake of making a blog post about it informing people one year and a half in advance

Probably they were afraid of leaks, that's why they already announced it

 

[LavitzSlambert]

It's going to hurt. It's up to Sony if they care enough or not.

 

[Plague Doctor]

 

[Haint]

Only thing they'll find out is how much more money is in their bank account cause you retards have demonstrated time and time again you're happy to keep paying the price hikes on their fake online access fee and $80 games, and you'll continue to lap up their monopoly $90 digital games next gen.

 

[Xaeroxcore666]

They´ve fuck around many times and somehow manage to move on without major consequences, most of the time because the competition somehow manage to screw it even harder. I´m a PS1 to PS5 user, but probably PS5 will be my last Sony console. I´m all for PC/Switch now, and probably my next gen choice will be RTX 60 GPU/Switch 2 (i´m currently RTX 40/Switch OLED/PS5). Another thing i´ll do, it´s, when safe, of couse i´ll install Custom Firmware on PS5. They deserve the piracy so bad. Only games left for PS5 i´m interested to have legit and physical are Astro Bot, Wolverine (if it doesn´t turns out to be too much woke)...and GTA VI, which also seems won´t ship on disc never...so...

The opening was created; all it takes is for a competitor to exploit it.
Sony is not the only producer of optical or solid-state media in the world.
Remember: never buy a game at full price this needs to be the mantra. it's as simple as that.

The day in which i´m agree with you has come!

Also really hope Nintendo really takes advantage of this, it will suck if also they start to fuck around with digital key cards with their S2 exclusives (they even should force third parties not to do that). But it´s naive to expect companies to be full pro consumer....
And Xbox i don´t think they´ll take advantage of that...At least they should try to arrange something with Rockstar for GTA VI- Series X...But i highly doubt it, Rockstar seems to have marketing deals with Sony and also M$ is on the same ship as Sony against physical media and normally Redmond folks aren´t good to take advantages of the competitors gaps,when it comes to Xbox, so...

 

[Deerock71]

Somehow it will be white people's fault. Especially white males.

 

[dEvAnGeL]

It will hurt them, but still be ok given Microsoft has made dumb choices as well, and Nintendo is in their own portable world.

You have GTA 6 fans foaming at the mouth to digitally pre-order the $100 version, and calling other people broke boys for daring to complain its anti-consumer.

Play Station is Sony's core division and what helped the company pull ahead since every other division was struggling. Xbox has been able to fail continuously for years because of the MS wallet. Sony doesn't have that. If Play Station goes sideways…..

 

[Vick]

They should go straight out of business after this.

 

[Angel of BOOM!]

I'm assuming they have to do this to help subsidise the PS6 enough for it to be less that 1k.

 

[Illyria]

The ps6 price point will likely hurt them worse than the no discs.

 

[McCrank]

I mean I have to presume they looked at the numbers. Losing 15-20% of their customer base isn't going to hurt them if they can just focus on their digital base and maybe offsetting that with increasing the prices of games and their hardware...

 

[Audiophile]

The digital/physical thing will hopefully just be the cherry on top. It's a general indifference due to the lack of quality experiences and raising costs that has led literally every PS gamer I know to state they're not gonna get a PS6 and will either just see out the next few years on PS5 and not bother with gaming anymore or move to PC. And this was before the RAM crisis and a move to digital only. If we're talking $1000 consoles with costs almost entirely passed on to the consumer despite a far greater number of revenue streams and the complete end of physical media going forward, then that's pretty much it for these people.

The whole industry needs a wake up call. My realistic hope is Sony struggle to break 80 mil and margins become much tighter; and the overall active PS playerbase starts to wither.

 

[Freelance Yakuza]

It's time for a reality check:

Please note that 2028 is a year and a half away

PS5 Game Sales (current trend)

Good evening, videogame community. Allow me, first, to apologize for this interruption. I do, like many of you, appreciate the comforts of gaming routine – the security of the familiar, the tranquillity of the controller in hand. I enjoy them as much as any seasoned player. But in the spirit of commemoration, recalling important events of the past associated with death or the end of some bloody struggle, like the hardest 'achievements', I thought we could mark this day, a day that is sadly no longer remembered, by taking some time out of our daily lives to sit down and have a little chat.

There are, of course, those who do not want us to speak. I suspect even now, orders are being given via voice chat, and users with administrative access will soon be on their way. Why? Because while the ban may be used in lieu of conversation, words will always retain their power. Words offer the means to meaning, and for those who will listen, the enunciation of truth. And the truth is, there is something terribly wrong with the console community, isn't there? Cruelty and injustice, intolerance and oppression in the forums. And where once you had the freedom to play online, to physically own your games, to collect, you now have mandatory downloads and digital rights management systems coercing your conformity and soliciting your submission.

How did this happen? Who's to blame? Well, certainly there are those more responsible than others, the big publishers and their terms of service, and they will be held accountable, but again, truth be told, if you're looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror. I know why you did it. We know you were lazy. Who wouldn't be? Midnight releases, crowded shelves, swapping discs. There were a myriad of convenience problems which conspired to corrupt your reason and rob you of your common sense. Laziness got the best of you, and in your panic for convenience, you turned to the digital store. They promised you instant gaming, they promised you automatic 'patches', and all they demanded in return was your silent, obedient consent.

 

[ValiantInstance]

Normies aren't buying a $1000+ console, that's the first and biggest landmine they're going to step on. I'd be surprised if the PS6/old gen split is more than 10:90 even as far as 3 years in.

We thought the PS4 was teflon, the PS5 will still be relevant in 2035 unless the AI bubble pops and things go back to normal.

 

[TGO]

It's time for a reality check:

Please note that 2028 is a year and a half away

PS5 Game Sales (current trend)

Sony only recognizes the revenue it keeps from its own first-party games. They do not report the full retail price of a third-party physical game sold at a store like Amazon or GameStop as their own "revenue."
With digital Sony recognizes the full transaction value for every game sold on the PlayStation Store, regardless of whether it's first-party or third-party.
This makes digital revenue appear vastly larger than physical revenue because the accounting methods are fundamentally different. It makes physical media look small while digital looks massive when it's not.
The 85% figure is also heavily padded by items that cannot be bought physically
The actual number for how many people buy Physical Disc is actually bigger than the Xbox Series X/S userbase.
Let that sink in.
And I'm going to guess most of them are early adapters too.

 

[Omnipunctual Godot]

It's time for a reality check:

Please note that 2028 is a year and a half away

PS5 Game Sales (current trend)

If someone took 15-22% of your take-home salary, would you consider that significant?

 

[simpatico]

If they do, I don't think it will be because of discs.

 

[MisterXDTV]

If someone took 15-22% of your take-home salary, would you consider that significant?

That assumes that shrinking full 15% will leave Playstation because of game discs no longer being made which is pure bullshit

So your comparison doesn't make any sense....

Each year the ratio gets bigger in favor of digital

Like I said, 13 years ago the split was literally reversed

It's simple math

 

[Omnipunctual Godot]

That assumes that shrinking full 15% will leave Playstation because of game discs no longer being made

So your comparison doesn't make any sense....

Each year the ratio gets bigger in favor of digital

Like I said, 13 years ago the split was literally reversed

It's simple math

15-22% of anything is significant, which is pretty obvious. You make it sound as if that percentage is exclusively made up of people who choose physical as a luxury. The truth is that not every PlayStation owner has access to high-speed, unmetered internet to download hundreds of gigabytes of games. Those customers will be gone for good.

You're also discounting the number of people who will see this move as a bald-faced power grab to monopolize the market. I'm one of those. I've bought every PlayStation since PS1. I'm not buying the PS6, and I think there are others who feel the same way.

So, the only way my comparison won't be apt is if the PS6 outsells the PS5. And I don't think it will.

 

[Saber]

Sony will pay the price for the industry change that Steam made like 20 years ago??

What happens when your differential is no longer a differential?
If you change your system to be just like Steam, then whats supposed to be the reason for their customers to not go to Steam?

 

[GloveSlap]

Eating Xbox's market share and being the only graphics driven console will be a shot in the arm for a while at least. PC is a very real threat to them though and these component price increases are very very bad for them.

 

[MisterXDTV]

Those customers will be gone for good.

That's your opinion, not a fact

A fact is that 78 out of 100 full games Sony sells are digital and that number increases every year

That means your opinion is opposite to the reality of the market

 

[reinking]

Should they? Yes.
Will they? No. At least not over this.

If they were going it alone then maybe more would come of it, but this will be the new industry standard. We see XBOX is going to do the same (at least they are throwing customers a bone). #XBOXTOO

Going forward. I am not sure I will buy the any of the next gen consoles. I can't believe that thought has even crossed my mind but here I am. It is not just one thing; it is just the one thing that might have broken the camel's back. Even though I have had plenty to play, this generation has had more bad news than good news. It is getting depressing.

 

[Bernardougf]

 

[Omnipunctual Godot]

That's your opinion, not a fact

No, it's a fact that a certain percentage of gamers live in developing countries and areas without modern Internet connections, in addition to those with metered connections who can't download hundreds of gigabytes a month. Those customers will be forced out. Whether you want to acknowledge it or not is your problem.

 

[MisterXDTV]

No, it's a fact that a certain percentage of gamers live in developing countries and areas without modern Internet connections, in addition to those with metered connections who can't download hundreds of gigabytes a month. Those customers will be forced out. Whether you want to acknowledge it or not is your problem.

I'm sure Sony will sell PS6 in countries that don't have decent internet in 2030....

 

[Unknown?]

How many of those still buy physical games in 2028?

Yeah, right

A lot, those figures released include dlc and add-ons as digital games.

 

[Bojji]

I'm sure Sony will sell PS6 in countries that don't have decent internet in 2030....

Isn't USA internet still full of data caps?

 

[Omnipunctual Godot]

I'm sure Sony will sell PS6 in countries that don't have decent internet in 2030....

You mean like they did with PS1, PS2 (best-selling console of all time, by the way), PS3, PS4, and PS5?

 

[MisterXDTV]

A lot, those figures released include dlc and add-ons as digital games.

No they don't

Read again the last line in the OFFICIAL Sony Report

FULL GAMES SALES: 78/22 split for the year and 85/15 last quarter

You can't change reality just because you don't like it

 

[Bojanglez]

People are already voting with their wallets, digital sales represent up to 85% of sales in recent months. They are likely giving people a handheld (something many people want) and it would send mixed messages to not be all digital then.

I understand people that love discs will be frustrated but in reality where are they going to go? They will pretty much only be able to go to another platform that is either all or mostly digital.

 

[Unknown?]

People are already voting with their wallets, digital sales represent up to 85% of sales in recent months. They are likely giving people a handheld (something many people want) and it would send mixed messages to not be all digital then.

I understand people that love discs will be frustrated but in reality where are they going to go? They will pretty much only be able to go to another platform that is either all or mostly digital.

They won't go to Sony. I'm just sticking to old games and emulators on PC.

 

[Bojanglez]

No, it's a fact that a certain percentage of gamers live in developing countries and areas without modern Internet connections, in addition to those with metered connections who can't download hundreds of gigabytes a month. Those customers will be forced out. Whether you want to acknowledge it or not is your problem.

Starlink (and rivals) will most likely be ubiquitous within the next 5 years.

 

[mayham2199]

What will do Sony in is the combination of every retarded decision they made.

1. digital only
2. shitty exclusive lineup
3. ridiculously expensive console
4. paid online

We're simply at a breaking point here. If you have the choice between a $1000 console that doesn't even have physical games, has zero worthwhile exclusives and paid online on top of it all might as well just get a PC.

Sony pretty much pissed away every single advantage consoles had in the past.

I love how you throw out the $1000 console like PC prices aren't also going up.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

Like anything else, we will see in a couple of years when digital is the main thing. I do wonder how retail can survive without selling games and only consoles.

 

[Omnipunctual Godot]

Starlink (and rivals) will most likely be ubiquitous within the next 5 years.

That's a great hope you have, but it's certainly not the case today.

 

[Bojanglez]

They won't go to Sony. I'm just sticking to old games and emulators on PC.

I think you'll be in a minority, but fair play.

To be fair I could never get a new game again and still have enough to play in my back catalogue on PS, Steam and Switch, but I know I'll always want to try the latest games too.

I play games for the experience not for the medium by which they are delivered, I will also only pay what a deem suitable as I'm sure it's the case for most people.

 

[Bojanglez]

Like anything else, we will see in a couple of years when digital is the main thing. I do wonder how retail can survive without selling games and only consoles.

They will be able to sell game codes like they are doing for GTA6. Games will still benefit from a retail presence.

 

[Fabieter]

That assumes that shrinking full 15% will leave Playstation because of game discs no longer being made which is pure bullshit

So your comparison doesn't make any sense....

Each year the ratio gets bigger in favor of digital

Like I said, 13 years ago the split was literally reversed

It's simple math

Why are you guys so happy so have less rights is beyond me.