MisterXDTV
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Unless they offer equal quality to 4k discs, physical will last much longer for movies.
Also because of the fact you need 7 different subscriptions to watch everything. Completely different from music and games
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Will Sony find out?
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Unless they offer equal quality to 4k discs, physical will last much longer for movies.
Also because of the fact you need 7 different subscriptions to watch everything. Completely different from music and games
Given how little 4k blu rays sell, they probably aren't long for this world either. Even more worrisome is the lack of 4k player manufacturers. Sony and Panasonic haven't updated their models in years but it didn't matter since you could always fall back on the ps5 and presumably the ps6. Until now...
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What's the lie?
Durin
Gold Member
Sure, but Sony's only direct competitor is Microsoft, and most people do buy digital already so hard to say how much this will damage Sony.
It kills my interest in their next console because I've bought next to nothing on PSN, but they could still be the multi-plat console box for a lot of people.
MisterXDTV
Member
Sony will make the current drive compatible with PS6 anyway for backwards compatibility. Remember that Sony has a movie studio too and they sell BD 4K
That's anything but guaranteed.
Sony can have a movie studio but the sales of 4K blu ray still has to justify its existence. People love to clutch their pearls over physical media ownership, but they completely ignore the only way left to fully own your movies.
Fabieter
Member
Hows a shitty code in the box the same as actually own a cartridge which you can get cheaper, lend a friend and sell to other people.
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Bojji
Member
Hows a shitty code in the box than actually own a cartridge which you can get cheaper, lend a friend and sell to other people.
Yep, code in the box is also one time use only. After that you can use it as toilet paper.
ReyBrujo
Member
So, it doesn't depends on those who have been buying 85% of games digitally?
I buy NIS games because their codes for soundtracks can be redeemed up to 3 times.
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Fabieter
Member
It is just delusional at this point.
gametimedecision
Gold Member
I don't understand how gaf doesn't get this, PlayStation is untouchable. They are the extreme market leader, no one is close….they could have announced "no more physical games after this month" and it wouldn't change a thing.
xVodevil
Member
I'm on steam. I really don't think we had much of a choice. When I got MGS V just a few months after my Witcher 3 collectors box I had to realize well fuck, I just bought a cd key in a steel case and quickly this just became the standard.
Not that I like it, yet rather it's not like I'm gonna give up gaming because of this. Not having to store my 2000+ mostly steam games physically is not a bad thing. We PC gamers have been already conditioned to this for a decade at least.
I get why this is bad because you should always have a choice.
But what can you do really? Though removing stuff from you library sucks hard (like the news of removing owned movies earlier just this week), I guess it comes down to trust as well at the end of the day. Over 21 years I do came to trust Steam and Gog as they never ever game me a reason not to, I guess we'll see where this leaves me in the long run. Maybe it all comes down do this whether you trust Sony or expect them to fuck you over down the line.
Not that I like it, yet rather it's not like I'm gonna give up gaming because of this. Not having to store my 2000+ mostly steam games physically is not a bad thing. We PC gamers have been already conditioned to this for a decade at least.
I get why this is bad because you should always have a choice.
But what can you do really? Though removing stuff from you library sucks hard (like the news of removing owned movies earlier just this week), I guess it comes down to trust as well at the end of the day. Over 21 years I do came to trust Steam and Gog as they never ever game me a reason not to, I guess we'll see where this leaves me in the long run. Maybe it all comes down do this whether you trust Sony or expect them to fuck you over down the line.
Bojji
Member
History is full of "too big to fail" companies and products that... failed.
Dorfdad
Gold Member
nothing burger. Sure some people
Will be upset and will complain on social media like it makes any difference. Steam is the biggest store in existence and I have t seen one physical box copy of any game, nor any laws enacted to allow me to sell my digital rights, nor any protection for when games get pulled like say PURE. It hasn't started a firestorm on social media and forums that pc owners only get digital files.
I don't spend my time worrying about this crap anymore. Even if you bought physical media you can't do shit with it when every game needs patches and updates constantly. So even if you could slide in a disk you're playing a broken outdated game.
Will be upset and will complain on social media like it makes any difference. Steam is the biggest store in existence and I have t seen one physical box copy of any game, nor any laws enacted to allow me to sell my digital rights, nor any protection for when games get pulled like say PURE. It hasn't started a firestorm on social media and forums that pc owners only get digital files.
I don't spend my time worrying about this crap anymore. Even if you bought physical media you can't do shit with it when every game needs patches and updates constantly. So even if you could slide in a disk you're playing a broken outdated game.
Fabieter
Member
Yes, because a game totally can't be removed from Nintendo's servers or delisted from their store...Hows a shitty code in the box the same as actually own a cartridge which you can get cheaper, lend a friend and sell to other people.
If the actual game data isn't on the card, you don't own it, period. You have a plastic IOU.
Fabieter
Member
ComputerBlue
Member
It does. Which is what I'm saying, it probably will not affect them.
FauxXeno
Member
Nothing is to big to fail !! Sony aren't really innovators anymore in the gaming space , they've basically just been chasing trends and failing miserably . Nintendo has retaking the console lead and steam is in a league of their own
When the physical people can't play their games on ps6 but they wanna play next gen games , nothing will hold them back from going elsewhere
Zannegan
Member
I expect that, by and large, GAF does get this. We're well aware that we are a small enthusiast board, not representative of the buying population at large or trend setters. And most recognize that if Sony does fail to reach a broad enough audience, it will be down to hardware prices moreso than the loss of physical media.
But just because you can't change them doesn't mean you have to keep eating shit. It's not a boycott, it's just being fed up.
And Sony's market leadership (at least when compared to MS alone) hasn't stopped them from making boneheaded moves that have come back to bite them in very recent memory. They've been very profitable this generation, but they've also burned a lot of money on failed products and iffy acquisitions. They'll probably be fine, as you say, but nothing is guaranteed, and if they should falter next generation with a new "$599" moment, the schadenfreude will be plenty and loud.
Deus Mortis
Neo Member
Can't vote yet but my guess is that they will be fine, and imo that sucks. Physical media is nice to have even though most my games this generation have been digital. Hate that we continue to move in the direction of "you own nothing and you will be happy" future.
Unfortunatecookie
Member
"BBM is too big to fail, Blackberry is king"
"The 'Wii'?!? Pffffffffffft looks like a dildo"
"Who wants to buy stuff through the internet???"
"Swiss watches are sooooo far ahead of quartz watches"
"PlayStation can't be beat, Xbox 360 doesn't have a chance"
"Blockbuster is #1, lol Netflix!"
"Who the hell wants a Samsung tv? BRAVIA all the way"
"Yahoo > everyone"
"iTunes can't be beat, streaming won't take off"
"A touchscreen phone locked to AT&T? Good luck hahahaha"
The list goes on. If there's one consistent truth throughout history is that arrogance in business can and often does lead to catastrophic results.
yogaflame
Member
Sony is about to face to biggest boycott in history of entertainment industry and biggest class suit non stop left and right. Well deserved sony. Ryan and Hulst are trash, they started this and it will end pretty bad. Ps6 a full digital will surely be doa. Gta6 and other digital only aaa games will also feel this boycott. They reap what they sow.
Dorfdad
Gold Member
It's identical that's why
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Unknown?
Member
Even less people buy premium controllers, should they stop making those?
phant0m
Member
Sony find out? Nah. They wouldn't make a decision like this without long-term data showing that the vast majority of sales are digital (which they are)
The only people going to find out are internet nerds that the general gaming populace doesn't give a fuck about their physical game collection or rEaL oWnErShIp
The only people going to find out are internet nerds that the general gaming populace doesn't give a fuck about their physical game collection or rEaL oWnErShIp
digimaster7
Member
Sony's downfall will be when they made bad decision like wasting their money on firewalk and bungie, not the switch to all digital.
because just one look at steam then you'll have your answer
because just one look at steam then you'll have your answer
Lord Panda
The Sea is Always Right
Sony are overdue for a good kick in their they/thems.
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Buggy Loop
Member
Mainstream gamers gave the signal to Sony that it would be fine in the end, since COVID digital sales are sky high. It's a nothingburger but I love to see the overreactions
A bunch of people are switching from ps5 to switch 2? Why would they go backwards?
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
Stop eating bread then. Problem solved and one less cuck.
Unknown?
Member
They don't, that's why they're lambs headed for slaughter with digital currency that they can't buy what they want for thought crimes.
Shifty1897
Member
Because the Switch 2 will be the only current gen console in 2028 with some kind physical media, and the PS6 is probably going to be around $1300, which for most normal consumers is unaffordable, especially when you can get a Switch 2 for $500.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
Sony fired Hulst and hired…..
Haint
Member
Retailers famously earned about as much on a single game sale as they did on an entire console sale. Console hardware margins are razor thin, like 2% - 5%, usually accepted to be around $10 - $20 at most. Console margins will have go WAY up if they want retailers to carry them, which will drive already wildly inflated consumer prices even higher unless Sony thinks everybody's suddenly going to buy from their shitty PS Direct store--which simply ain't gonna happen outside of the hardest core preorder crowd.
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yogaflame
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yogaflame
Member
The 900 to 1000 dollar price projection is already making it a doa.
Viruz
Member
Yes, price will have an impact for sure but not digital only.
Rising_Hei
Member
They have no strong competition to mock them...
EDMIX
Writes a lot, says very little
The scariest part about this, is PS will do just fine...the numbers are on their side with this whole digital thing. I really wish we were the majority here, but I don't see them being that hurt by this, even if all of us literally stopped buying Playstation.
Nintendo will follow, MS will follow and thats it...
I won't quit gaming because of this, but I don't know if I can do the Nintendo, PC and PS combo if they are just going to do this whole digital only thing
Nintendo will follow, MS will follow and thats it...
I won't quit gaming because of this, but I don't know if I can do the Nintendo, PC and PS combo if they are just going to do this whole digital only thing
Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
Welcome to the digital gulag and dictatorship. I was always against buying digital on PS Store and during the time I had PS3 and PS5, I only bought extremely few digital games (Vanillaware ones) cuz physical alternative wasn't available or the price of it was too high cuz of how rare physical copy is.
And these greedy and braindead motherfuckers trying to win people over who chose PC after Sony started porting their games to play better versions of them? Well, now they just made sure that it'll never happen. Can't wait to see Sony's downfall - there's no other way for it to end.
And these greedy and braindead motherfuckers trying to win people over who chose PC after Sony started porting their games to play better versions of them? Well, now they just made sure that it'll never happen. Can't wait to see Sony's downfall - there's no other way for it to end.
TKOFromTokyo
Member
The move will have minimal impact on their results. The higher cost of the console will have a bigger impact.
Sohurmk833
Member
The point isn't that PCs aren't expensive as well. The point is that consoles used to be much much cheaper than PCs.