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Will you buy a MGS game written and directed by David Hayter?

Daredevil.shark said:
As an actor he is great. As a writer, nope. Sorry Mr. hayter. You may be good as an actor. But as a game director Kojima is in another level.
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Hayter wrote X-Men 1 and 2, two of the best superhero movies ever, and by far better scripts than anything you can find in MGS aside from perhaps 1 and 3.
 
Ratrat said:
None of those were liked for their writing and they were hardly original scripts.
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Lol, I can't believe people are actually debating wether the guy who's actually worked in Hollywood plus read through VOLUMES of Kojima's drivel can deliver a competent and even better take on Metal Gear.

I'm all for Haytersnake taking a stab at the series.
 
Hayter for Snake? Definitely. Hayter to write the series? Sure I think he can managed it. Hayter to DIRECT the series? No... Game direction is different from movie direction. Let him write it, let him play the lead, but get someone else to direct it.
 
Weltall Zero said:
Hayter wrote X-Men 1 and 2, two of the best superhero movies ever, and by far better scripts than anything you can find in MGS aside from perhaps 1 and 3.
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Not to mention that the scripts in 1 and 3 are lifted wholesale from 80's action movies and 60's spy movies.

Kojima pays homage to Hollywood. Even went as far as to hire a big name in the chase of his film fantasies.

David Hayter is Hollywood. He has years and years of experience in both mediums.

Worse picks have been made.
 
ZeroX03 said:
Why would he be directing the game? He's a film director/writer, not a game director.

I'm sure he could write a serviceable game remake or movie and play/watch those, but I wouldn't trust him as a first time game director.

For all the hate MGSV gets, the gameplay is still leagues ahead of most titles out there. Kojima has always been stronger at gameplay than writing, even if he thinks of himself as a storyteller first. Games are more than cutscenes.
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Yea its not about the story.
 
Rapier said:
Lol, I can't believe people are actually debating wether the guy who's actually worked in Hollywood plus read through VOLUMES of Kojima's drivel can deliver a competent and even better take on Metal Gear.

I'm all for Haytersnake taking a stab at the series.
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Its not going to happen. Some voice actor is not going to lead a team of japanese developers at Konami on a AAA title, never mind that all of the talent is gone. The premise of this thread is laughable.
 
ponpo said:
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I know this has little relation to how a game would turn out.
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It was actually a direct-to-video movie with an art house theater release, so this doesn't really mean anything.
 
Striek said:
Nah. Watchmen was fantastic. As faithful to the material as you could possibly hope for.
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Watchmen was indeed astonishingly true to the source material. Unfortunately that made it obvious just how shallow and cynical every single character is. Once you could no longer fill in the gaps by injecting your own decency and warmth what's left is just cold and unrelenting. If that was Hayter's intention then it's incredibly well done, but as an attempt to capture what was loved about the original it fails.

I'd still be curious to see his take on a character and world he inhabited, but game design is something he has zero experience in and Metal Gear would be the wrong place to start. Let him direct the story and cut scenes, sure. Not the gameplay, though, and since Konami has control over the IP they'd have to license it out for me to be even remotely interested. I don't what any of their in-house nonsense influencing the project. Crystal Dynamics could possibly do it justice.
 
longdi said:
IIRC David wrote a few films and movies. So he will know his stuff.
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Lol.

it's true that Kojima showed us how abysmal his writing skills are with MGS4 and 5 and Hayter can maybe write something less awful but that doesn't mean he also magically knows how to direct a full game or that his product will be worth buying or playing.
I mean, if you told me a bunch of monkeys with typewriters wrote MGS6 and it has better writing than 4 and 5 I'd probably believe you.
 
No way. I'm a huge MGS fan but I don't get the attachment to Hayter. MGS5 was likely better off without him (IMO; he wouldn't have fit at all).
 
Written yes, he's a good writer (X-Men 1 & 2, Watchmen) but does he actually know anything about designing video games? I wouldn't want someone with no experience making a game like that. I'd be happy with him writing the script and playing Snake again, although I don't think he's that good of an actor. His line delivery as Snake has always hovered between average and mediocre.
 
Sure. I feel like Hayter knows more about Snake as a character than Kojima's meat grinder of a narrative. Kojima shouldnt be allowed near a pen.
 
Shouldn't it be 'would you'?

And he's a voice actor/occasional script writer, why would he be involved in MGS games as a developer?

Plus, where is Kojima, what is Konami?

Time to move on. Or replay MGS 1-4/PW-TPP.
 
Would buy it. The guy has written decent films and likes the role. Still prefer him over Kiefer who I didn't really buy into.

1/2 OT: Wasn't there supposed to be an MGS related announcement a week or so ago? Do we know yet what it was about?
 
I think he wrote the ending to the Watchmen movie, I actually prefer it over the book's (I know I know). But there is absolutely no way he could do the gameplay directing... Im not sure if anyone could do a new MGS with the level of gameplay in 1-5.
 
The idea of an English-speaking writer for an MGS game is interesting. The direct translations from 2 onwards really hurt them, IMO. MGS1 was localized very well by Jeremy Blaustein (apart from the few mistakes here and there), and it comes across with the more natural-sounding dialogue. Then some asshole told Kojima that Blaustein was butchering his script, and so he decided on making the rest of the games just direct translations.
 
Hayter understands the story and stuff but I don't think it's the right choice. Konami could be cheap and just say fuck it but who knows what konami thinks now and days
 
Dick Justice said:
The idea of an English-speaking writer for an MGS game is interesting. The direct translations from 2 onwards really hurt them, IMO. MGS1 was localized very well by Jeremy Blaustein (apart from the few mistakes here and there), and it comes across with the more natural-sounding dialogue. Then some asshole told Kojima that Blaustein was butchering his script, and so he decided on making the rest of the games just direct translations.
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In a perfect world, you get Jeremy Blaustein back, Fukushima to write, Nojiri to direct. Obviously you can't get Murata because he's probably with Kojipro.
Interestingly enough, Hayter has already said he wouldn't write a Metal Gear game script because he has a different style.
 
A voice actor? Are you #$%#$ing kidding me OP? Hell no. I also don't think the Yankees should put the batboy in at the 3 spot in the batting rotation.
 
Directed by Hayter? Not so sure

But I'd definitely be down to play another MGS game not directed by Kojima or associated with KojiPro.

Let someone else try their hand at the Mythos
 
Idk if he's only doing the script maybe.
The actual game though? It won't come close to anything Kojima's done. People like to think of Kojima as a storyteller but he's always been a lot better at making games than stories tbh.

And LOL @ everyone saying "couldn't be much worse than V." Man will you guys eat crow when MGS6 is released and it doesn't even compare to V. Complain about MGSV's story, sure, but to say it can't get worse than one of the best games of the year is some clown-level shit
 
I also think Metal Gear should fall onto a western developers' hands. For one, too many of the Japanese voice actors have passed away, limiting the story they can tell.
 
Everyone can be replaced. Guy is a writer who has an interest in this universe. Why not as writer? Not sure as game director but writer I don't see any issue. Agree that it would be weird to have this happen. Maybe five years or more from now.
 
No, I don't think so. I've never really liked his voice as Snake either. I always thought he sounded ridiculous. Although, for a while I thought that was the point.

Pretty sure the dude has passion for the series and all, but that's not enough to even interest me in buying the game. I mean, I wasn't that big of a fan of Kojima either, but that dude...

that dude had ideas.
 
Cleve said:
So, you mean way better, right?

Irvin Kershner directed ep. 5(written by Lawrence Kasdan), Richard Marquand directed ep 6,

I think someone other than Kojima could definitely write/direct a better Metal Gear game, but I don't think that person is going to be David Hayter. I don't even want him back as Snake at this point.
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Of course. Ep 1-3 were awful and directed by lucas. I want a kojima-less mgs.
 
MAX PAYMENT said:
Of course. Ep 1-3 were awful and directed by lucas. I want a kojima-less mgs.
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Yeah but Lucas was involved in 5&6 too, writing/producing/managing. The only Lucas-less SW movie was practically a remake of Episode 4.

So could Hayter do a decent rip on MGS? Sure. Will it be a good MGS game? Probably not.
 
Nah. If the biggest he can do is X-Men stuff, then it's really not going to do anything for me and these games have always been far more than a script for me. I never came to MGS for the snappy zingers and straight forward romps people always default to for great writing/dialogue. I have no idea who would be creative director for the game and lead designer, and can't think of anyone that would get me interested rather than revolt me. It's really just like how naming the writer for a comic book run doesn't mean anything to me without a committed penciller I can get behind, especially if the writer is from another medium.
 
David Hayter is not a game director, that's a dumb suggestion. He's barely even started film directing. Also writing a script for a game is significantly different/more work than writing a screenplay, especially for Metal Gear Solid. It seems like the only reason it's suggested is because he voiced Snake, is a screenwriter, and has directed a movie.
 
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