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[Kitsunebaby]

Then again, she's four. And of course, the beginning of the original sure pushes a four year-old's tolerance for no fun. Trying not to be biased, I'd say that they're both really good but I solidly prefer Willy, Charlie, and Grandpa Joe from the original and everyone else from the remake, except for maybe Veruca, who's more of a tossup.

You prefer the original Charlie? I couldn't stand him. Thought he was a terrible actor and not the slightest bit endearing. If there's anything the Burton film did better, it's casting Freddie Highmore as Charlie.

 

[Log4Girlz]

And Anthony Burgess hated Kubrick's A Clockwork Orange.

P.L. Travers hated Mary Poppins.

 

[Amon37]

So maybe I'm noob to movie making but how can he hate it if he's credited as writing the screenplay? Other stuff down the line?

 

[BobLoblaw]

The remake is better.

Extremely late, but this is the worse goddamn first post I've seen in a while.

 

[Pein]

I liked the remake better. I must have seen, the original a 100 times in elementary school, fuck I hate that movie.

 

[Joni]

The book was great, but Gene Wilder as Willy Wonka just improves so much on the book.

 

[POWERSPHERE]

Read the book..... please. It's not a remake

Well the new movie version of the book is a MUCH worse movie than the original movie version of the book.

 

[Hot Coldman]

I actually really like the remake. Can't say it's better, haven't seen the musical in yeaaaaars, but I still like it.

It's Depp's one "I'm so wacky" performance that doesn't get on my fucking nerves, besides Jack Sparrow.

As for Dahl's hatred, he sounds like a cranky old man a la Miyazaki, so whatever.

 

[tiggerkiddo]

Never seen the remake but it's gonna be real hard to top Wilder.

 

[Arrowgigantic]

You prefer the original Charlie? I couldn't stand him. Thought he was a terrible actor and not the slightest bit endearing. If there's anything the Burton film did better, it's casting Freddie Highmore as Charlie.

I'm not saying that Freddie wasn't as good an actor, just that the character was not as good. The remake Charlie is like Jesus.

 

[BertramCooper]

I don't particularly care for either, but the original is clearly better. The remake is hot shit. Depp is Razzy-worthy in it.

The only compliment I can give the remake is that they used the original Dahl Oompa-Loompa songs. But other than that, it's fucking terrible.

 

[Shin Kojima]

The girl that turns into the giant grape, well that gave me nightmares.

Me too!!
So did the girl falling in the 'garbage disposal' and Augustus getting stuck in that pipe.
I was a pussy growing up but I still loved the movie.
Remake was ok.

 

[Jean Valjean]

I'm not saying that Freddie wasn't as good an actor, just that the character was not as good. The remake Charlie is like Jesus.

http://youtu.be/2maHg2GGmNY?t=6m34s

http://youtu.be/2maHg2GGmNY?t=6m34s

 

[Strawman]

There's no earthly way of knowing
Which direction we are going
There's no knowing where we're rowing
Or which way the river's flowing

Is it raining, is it snowing
Is a hurricane a-blowing

Not a speck of light is showing
So the danger must be growing
Are the fires of Hell a-glowing
Is the grisly reaper mowing

Yes, the danger must be growing
For the rowers keep on rowing
And they're certainly not showing
Any signs that they are slowing



You are supposed to hate the kids.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7yOUKEsqLI

 

[one_kill]

Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory is one of my favourite movies of all time. The remake was okay, but it doesn't top the original film.

 

[Ironmask]

One of those cases where the movie is better than the book. The focus on Willy Wonka instead of Charlie (Gene Wild is a God of actors in this movie), the use of music to express magic in the air (while the remake focus on computer graphic) and also the way to tell the story (it told better how the golden ticket contest was a world wide mass hysteria thing).

The remake was very disappointing, i save only the theatre in flame scene and the better acting of the kids

 

[Supermanisdead]

I preferred the remake.

 

[Seda]

One of those cases where the movie is better than the book.

Definitely. Charlie and the Great Glass Elevator was also a really weird sequel.

 

[VeryGooster]

I think Willy Wonka is an enjoyable movie.

I didn't think much of the Burton one either way, but I thought Depp was pretty terrible.

 

[papercamm]

Corgi's are ugly dogs.

Woah now, lets not get insane here.

Definitely. Charlie and the Great Glass Elevator was also a really weird sequel.

What were those brown alien things called? S.K.N.I.D.S?

 

[Wuthering_Heights]

I preferred the remake.

You have excellent taste, sir.

Woah now, lets not get insane here.

That's what I'm saying!

 

[gar3]

I have a four year-old daughter and, without the prejudice of growing up with the original, she somewhat prefers the new version.

My five year-old son also prefers the new version. That's the one he always wants to watch. Not that he won't watch and enjoy the original, just that he'd rather watch the remake. My eight year-old daughter could go either way. She likes both equally.

 

[Space Runaway]

Loved this movie as a kid and I still enjoy it. Actually I like it even better than the book...

As for Burton's adaption...I struggle to think of a single thing I liked about it. I guess the special effects were good at the time.

 

[radios shipping overview]

The remake is better.

Don't call it a remake.

And Burton's version is closer to my memories of the book.

 

[Seda]

What were those brown alien things called? S.K.N.I.D.S?

Something like that. I barely remember anything about it, except shape-shifting aliens and people aging to be 500 years old or something.

 

[Joni]

My five year-old son also prefers the new version. That's the one he always wants to watch. Not that he won't watch and enjoy the original, just that he'd rather watch the remake. My eight year-old daughter could go either way. She likes both equally.

The old one is more suited for older views, where as the new one really goes for the wacky angle.

 

[MattKeil]

What were those brown alien things called? S.K.N.I.D.S?

Vermicious Knids.

Original film is light years beyond the Burton film. Wilder's "World of Your Imagination" song destroys every song in the new one combined. Even if the entire rest of the original was unwatchable Wilder's performance alone would elevate it. An absolute master of his craft.

 

[BeEatNU]

The remake is better.

lol you cray cray

original is soooo much better than the remake in so many ways.

it just has that feeling.

 

[alphaNoid]

The remake is the absolute worst Burton film ever.

 

[jimi_dini]

The remake is better.

1st post fails

 

[meijiko]

I never really liked the original, even as a kid. It was a little too weird for me, and I couldn't identify with any of the characters.

 

[SpacePirate Ridley]

The remake is better.

Apart from Gene Wilder being a fantastic Willy Wonka and much better than Johny Deep, yes, the remake is much better and more similar to dahl's vision.

Very much so. It's why adaptations of Great Glass Elevator are strictly verboten - apparently he wrote as much in his will, too. Dahl hated this film. Not entirely sure why, since I love it, but I'm sure you can get some information about it on Google or something?

Supposedly Dahl's estate said he'd have been more pleased with the Burton film... which wasn't a bad film, but really, the first film is just too classic, I don't think I could ever prefer Burton's attempt.

Because its NOTHING like the book, characters are completly changed, music is invented, scenes are completly changed, etc... Dahl's wife said that Tim Burton version would have been the one he would have liked.
The remake is a much better movie (and its really not a remake), as ive said Gene Wilder is a blast as Willy Wonka, and much better than Deep, but the other gets the rest of the movie right, the kids, music and scenes.

The goose scene in Willy Wonka's Chocolate factory is ATROCIOUS, and the ending just cuts itself to make the movie shorter. The boat scene is still the best and thats what people always have memories of.

Now, having laid my opinions of why, people can start quoting me saying im crazy.

P.L. Travers hated Mary Poppins.

Yeah, but Mary Poppins books are nothing to call home for while Charlie and the Chocolate Factory is a Dahl classic. Huge difference there.

 

[not psycho]

Apart from Gene Wilder being a fantastic Willy Wonka and much better than Johny Deep, yes, the remake is much better and more similar to dahl's vision.



Because its NOTHING like the book, characters are completly changed, music is invented, scenes are completly changed, etc... Dahl's wife said that Tim Burton version would have been the one he would have liked.

I think Dahl would have hated both, perhaps hating the remake more. Neither comes close to doing the book justice.

In fact, despite all the changes in the original it still feels closer to the book to me. I can't understand how anyone who read the books could stomach Depp's performance. There is no way, in a million years, that Depp's character has the capability to be Wonka. He doesn't come across as crazily brilliant enough or deeply strange enough... he just has a high level of weirdness on the surface and it feels like there isn't much to him.

As least with Gene Wilder you can use your imagination to make the rest of the movie around him better. No amount of imagination can save the remake.

 

[Hot Coldman]

The confrontation at the end of the Willy Wonka version is something the Burton version lacks, and is by far the strongest scene of the original film, but Burton's version has Christopher fucking Lee, so it wins out.

 

[The Technomancer]

Because its NOTHING like the book, characters are completly changed, music is invented, scenes are completly changed, etc... Dahl's wife said that Tim Burton version would have been the one he would have liked.
The remake is a much better movie (and its really not a remake), as ive said Gene Wilder is a blast as Willy Wonka, and much better than Deep, but the other gets the rest of the movie right, the kids, music and scenes.

The goose scene in Willy Wonka's Chocolate factory is ATROCIOUS, and the ending just cuts itself to make the movie shorter. The boat scene is still the best and thats what people always have memories of.

Now, having laid my opinions of why, people can start quoting me saying im crazy.

The remake gives Willy Wonka a surreal, tragic backstory, and devotes the climax of the movie to it.

 

[TheJollyCorner]

The confrontation at the end of the Willy Wonka version is something the Burton version lacks, and is by far the strongest scene of the original film, but Burton's version has Christopher fucking Lee, so it wins out.

This is very difficult to argue against.



If Depp's Wonka wouldn't have been so fucking annoying it might have been fantastic, but for me it really brought the entire film down.

 

[peanutbutterlatte]

Original film fails for being set in America. Dahl would have puked.

 

[way more]

I absolutely loved that the remake featured my two favorite scenes from the book; the squirrels sorting nuts and the ending where Charlie and Wonka watch as the deformed and mutilated children exit the factory.

There was perhaps too much creative license taken with the original, also "Cheer up Charlie," shudder.

 

[The Real Abed]

I love the original movie. Except for the restored "Cheer Up, Charlie" song that was originally removed because it brought the pacing to a grinding halt, because it brings the pace of the movie to a grinding halt. (I feel the same about that deleted song from Aladdin, but at least they didn't restore that into the film for release and left it as a deleted scene.)

One of my favorites of all time. Of all time! Up there with Wizard of Oz.

I prefer Wilder as Wonka over Depp as much as I love Depp. And I did enjoy the Burton movie, but I don't call it a remake. But the original just has more heart.

Willy Wonka was about Charlie. Charlie was about Willy Wonka.

 

[way more]

I love the original movie. Except for the restored "Cheer Up, Charlie" song that was originally removed because it brought the pacing to a grinding halt, because it brings the pace of the movie to a grinding halt. (I feel the same about that deleted song from Aladdin, but at least they didn't restore that into the film for release and left it as a deleted scene.)

One of my favorites of all time. Of all time! Up there with Wizard of Oz.

I prefer Wilder as Wonka over Depp as much as I love Depp. And I did enjoy the Burton movie, but I don't call it a remake. But the original just has more heart.

Willy Wonka was about Charlie. Charlie was about Willy Wonka.

That's actually why I prefer the newer one.

 

[Exterminieren]

Now, having laid my opinions of why, people can start quoting me saying im crazy.

It's a fair opinion.

For me, though, while Burton's version was closer to the letter of the book, the original was far, far closer to the spirit of it.

 

[Cotton McKnight]

You sir are correct, the children of today have to deal with the creepiness that is Tim Burton. Hell, the only movie I remember Tim Burton being a part of that was not creepy was the first Batman with Keaton in it.

 

[Log4Girlz]

The remake is the absolute worst Burton film ever.

You haven't seen Dark Shadows.

 

[jtb]

The remake is the absolute worst Burton film ever.

There are just so many shitty Burton films to choose from though...

 

[mre]

You sir are correct, the children of today have to deal with the creepiness that is Tim Burton. Hell, the only movie I remember Tim Burton being a part of that was not creepy was the first Batman with Keaton in it.

Big Fish?

 

[Forceatowulf]

The remake is better.

 

[Bread]

Come with me

and we'll be

in a wooooooooooorld of pure imagination

greatest movie song ever, words cannot express how much i adore it.

 

[Poetic.Injustice]

Did anyone else find Johnny Depp's performance awful in the remake? That voice was annoying as hell.

 

[The Real Abed]

That's actually why I prefer the newer one.

I'll admit I did enjoy Depp's performance. It did fit the universe. I mean Depp in a more Wilder style movie would not have fit at all. Just as Wilder in a Depp style one wouldn't work either. Depp did good with what he was given. I did enjoy the songs, yeah, shoot me, and have the soundtrack and listened to it a lot back then. And the kids were wonderful.

But I just love the original so much more.

Actually when my parents and I went to see it, I chose Charlie over Batman Begins. Not sure whether that was a good choice or a bad one.

Did anyone else find Johnny Depp's performance awful in the remake? That voice was annoying as hell.

You're weird!

 

[smokeymicpot]

You sir are correct, the children of today have to deal with the creepiness that is Tim Burton. Hell, the only movie I remember Tim Burton being a part of that was not creepy was the first Batman with Keaton in it.

Pee Wee's Big Adventure besides big Marge scene.