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brotkasten
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Brettison said:
E: I probably misunderstood that.
That said, I really want the OS this week.
few gaming questions probably no one can answer yet...
1. where's ilomilo for non att phones? i thought the exclusivity expires this new year.
2. where's angry birds? at least announce a due date.
3. where's castlevania? i'm sure microsoft announced this would be out by end of 2010.
1. where's ilomilo for non att phones? i thought the exclusivity expires this new year.
2. where's angry birds? at least announce a due date.
3. where's castlevania? i'm sure microsoft announced this would be out by end of 2010.
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brotkasten said:
Yeah I meant just a new thread for the new year and that now would be a good time with CES coming as well as the 1st big update. Not just a WP7 CES thread, but a new thread in general. I just thought now would be a good time since we have both CES this month and Mobile World Congress next month!
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Treo360 said:
It's ALWAYS bing search on accident for me. ALWAYS! :lol
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So you already want a new OT? After two months? Why not, you know, update the OP? It's not like we're going to see massive updates.Brettison said:
thirty said:
It's coming in 'some months'.
Wonder why the hell it's taking so long. They even announces a PSP and PS3 version.
Treo360 said:
Brettison said:
I sure love the physical buttons of my Optimus 7. *smug*
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It's probably not to soon for new phones from other manufacturers (Asus for example) and they're probably going to introduce the CDMA phones, but I highly doubt we'll see phones with something better than the first gen Snapdragon. At least not at this CES.Korey said:
http://windowsphonesecrets.com/2011/01/04/whats-happening-with-windows-phone-updates-in-2011/
Looks like first update will include support for another Qualcomm chipset, the 7x30. This is the second gen chipset that has the Adreno 205 GPU as used in the G2...
Looks like first update will include support for another Qualcomm chipset, the 7x30. This is the second gen chipset that has the Adreno 205 GPU as used in the G2...
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As expected and imo not the right approach for the phone market. And I'm disappointed by the date. I expected the update this week. So much for "very, very soon", Mr. Belfiore.jagowar said:
snap0212 said:
That is what Microsoft has been saying the whole time actually, it's just rumors have run crazy. It also says a number of software fixes, not quite sure what that entails.
I'm pretty happy to see support for new chipsets so quickly. I know a lot of people were under the impression that we'd be seeing the QSD8250 all year.
I'm also a little unsure why people think their approach is bad for the phone market. Apple does a major update once a year, Google does a couple updates a year but it takes forever for them to reach your phone. I'm sure the time and money it takes to deploy and test these updates is not insignificant.
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brotkasten said:
You can count me in agreement. It's what we thought, but totally poor form. I wonder how serious MS is treating this shit honestly. Maybe they'll get a wake up call when everyone is spooging over "4G" android phones this week.
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On another note:
The two new Xbox Live titles Pac-Man and Tower Bloxx: New York will be available tonight.
The two new Xbox Live titles Pac-Man and Tower Bloxx: New York will be available tonight.
I was just hoping for something more. Maybe also a Zune-Software Update. I want the WP7 series to succeed (that's why I bought one), but it seems impossible if Microsoft is not willing to put out one feature after another.PG2G said:
I really love my HD7, but it's just so sad that Microsoft is so far behind. We don't even have IM yet and it seems like there's not even a good way to implement this kind of stuff. We're lightyears behind Apple and when someone asks me for advice I always have to recommend the iPhone. And it seems like I'll still be giving the same advice in five months. I'm not angry or mad, but that's just how it seems to me...
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brotkasten said:
Oh shit Pac-Man? Like fucking real deal Pac-Man Championship Edition?
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They are not light years behind apple.. there are a number of areas where they are ahead of apple.
Applications is the big area they are lacking.. Apple has had a considerable amount of time in this area, when the iPhone launched they had no applications that weren't web apps.. third party apps weren't allowed or available for a full year but had been available on other platforms for many years already.. (not counting Installer.app.. and the initial jailbreak..)
They lack multitasking, which it took Apple 3 years to implement and is only available to the last 2 generations of Apple hardware.. (3GS,iPad and iPhone 4 only)
Copy and Paste/ Turn by Turn navigation
Aside from these 4 things, what big ticket items is microsoft missing in their new version 1.0 product?
IM apps are in development.. these things take time, afterall..
Applications is the big area they are lacking.. Apple has had a considerable amount of time in this area, when the iPhone launched they had no applications that weren't web apps.. third party apps weren't allowed or available for a full year but had been available on other platforms for many years already.. (not counting Installer.app.. and the initial jailbreak..)
They lack multitasking, which it took Apple 3 years to implement and is only available to the last 2 generations of Apple hardware.. (3GS,iPad and iPhone 4 only)
Copy and Paste/ Turn by Turn navigation
Aside from these 4 things, what big ticket items is microsoft missing in their new version 1.0 product?
IM apps are in development.. these things take time, afterall..
I was thinking February was pretty quick for an update!snap0212 said:
I don't know, I didn't think it was really behind Apple in any area that really mattered when I bought the phone and nothing has changed since then.
Weird. I saw this update news elsewhere and was expecting a little bit more of a positive reaction here, I guess!
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PG2G said:
Right.
They need to open up their API and stop limiting people to SilverLight and XNA..
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Robobandit said:
That works in a vacuum, but not when your competition has been out and iterated upon so much.
Also are we gonna get custom ring tones in Feb or are we still gonna have to wait for that as well?
Also you asked what else we are missing. How about a browser with modern features and support? No Flash OR HTML5 kills us.
Well, that's partly correct... I don't know how long it takes to develop a software. That still doesn't change the fact that Microsoft is years behind Apple and that's all the user cares about. Hearing "It takes a long time to develop feature x" is worth nothing when your competitor already has had feature x for a good amount of time. It's good to know more about the topic, because it makes you really appreciate everything a bit more, but at the end of the day all I can see is that there are features that Apple had for years while Microsoft wasn't able to have them when they launched years later. A YouTube Application, for example. There are ways to watch your YouTube Videos, sure, but why isn't a good solution available for everyone (for free)?PG2G said:
Maybe I sound so negative, because I'm living in Europe where Xbox Live Extras wasn't available for a long time and the Zune Software still sucks and lacks a lot of features (if you don't modify it, and even then it lacks important things). I'm actually quite happy with my phone. E-Mail, Word, Excel, games... everything is perfect. I just wish more things were as good as these.
WP7 has that.Robobandit said:
I have the Navigon App (was free) and it does turn by turn navigation without problems. I thought I've read somewhere that it (currently) wasn't possible to get these running and that devs have to figure out a way to bypass some restrictions which made a good IM Messenger impossible. I still think everything's moving extremely slow...Robobandit said:
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snap0212 said:
3rd party wise yes, but we should get a good MSN one direct from MS since they have full system access.
I agree with you on your feelings about time though. We get that it TAKES time, but releasing behind your competition means you might not HAVE time.
snap0212 said:
The word is that IM+ should be hitting in February, which is a multi-client messenger with support on a lot of different platforms. I'm guessing the lack of socket support means that they need to do something like this...
WP7 ---HTTP Request---> IM+ Servers ---Socket---> AIM
Instead of
WP7 ---Socket---> AIM
That's just my guess though. I have no idea how some of the streaming audio apps must work, maybe there is some other support built in for streaming media.
BTW, as much as we talk about MSN. I don't know a single person that uses it. If that does come, I'll probably be using it primarily for Facebook support.
Apologies if this has already been posted but Windows Phone 7 'NoDo' update hitting phones in early February, 'Mango' coming later with IE9?
Might just have to step up my attempts to get a WP7 phone.
Might just have to step up my attempts to get a WP7 phone.
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thirty said:
Ditto though I've not seen any news about this yet.
brotkasten
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I don't think it's going to happen. I'm not even sure if it's the CE.thirty said:
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The Amazon Kindle app is available.
zune://navigate/?appID=48195fb4-ee0e-e011-9264-00237de2db9e
zune://navigate/?appID=48195fb4-ee0e-e011-9264-00237de2db9e
Is it time to talk about what we want added yet outside of Multitasking?
Switching between Live IDs like I can do easily with my 360
Buying apps with MS points.
MSN integration (contacts, messaging etc.)
Added codec support.
Flash video
Video Marketplace
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Also why does my Zune software keep randomly coming up on my pc?
I also can't get my podcasts to sync.
Switching between Live IDs like I can do easily with my 360
Buying apps with MS points.
MSN integration (contacts, messaging etc.)
Added codec support.
Flash video
Video Marketplace
edit:
Also why does my Zune software keep randomly coming up on my pc?
I also can't get my podcasts to sync.
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Robobandit said:
While all these are true, the fact is WP7 are not competing with iPhone from gen 1 nor Android 1.0 they are competing in 2011 where these things are expected of the smartphone. To left out these features at launch and after over a month still have buggy, crashy marketplace, half-ass implementation of Xbox Live and even the Bing search works better on competitor phones is just make you scratch your head.
I think it's really short sight of them to not exceed Apple offering or at least offer similar feature set instead of having features to compete with smartphones from 2 years ago.
The update just need to faster and quicker. Marketplace snafu should quickly be fix, Xbox Live intergration that also should have been fix by now along with the marketplace search and Zune app stability (so it doesn't crash after streaming for long period and force you to reset the phone).
Anyway, don't get me wrong, I love Windows phone much more so than the iPhone. The UI is pretty, the phone is fast and intuitive to use (for the most part). But as is, I really can't recommend Windows phone 7 to people unless they really love the UI and heavily invest in Microsoft eco such as Zune and Xbox Live.
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Do you have a link?thirty said:
WP7 does import your WLM contacts.besiktas1 said:
Sorry I wasn't clear enough.antiquegamer said:
How about, instead of focusing on what iOS and Android do that WP7 doesn't, you guys start focusing on what WP7 does and iOS and Android don't.
Enjoy those features and wait for the rest to come. The operating system has been out for like two months (some of which was during the holiday season), you guys really need to get your expectations in line with reality. Software doesn't come out of thin air and you can't exactly just through a bunch of resources at it and expect it to be done quicker -_-
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has calmed down a bit.
The fact that I have to wait until February and it's not even a major update sucks. The fact that the kindle app is out is wonderful, though. Dropbox is the next big one on my list. Big app releases can definitely help to nullify not having big updates right away. The schedule, even for the little updates, needs to be sped up, though. They need to take a Google chrome approach, its on the eighth version after just two years, where explorer is on nine after more than a decade. They are chrome now, they need to have that underdog mentality.
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