They also Shouldn't announce the video games before release either...
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They also Shouldn't announce the video games before release either...
This thread has no reason to exist with another thread of 1000+ post around talking about the same stuff
None, really. It's just shorthand for added content that's more substantial than horse armor or a celebrity MP announcer.
ReplacementPelican
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Some people on this forum are being absolutely ridiculous about this whole thing.
It's almost like this company has earned many consumer's trust through past practices and those others have done the exact opposite.
SocksAndShoes
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I think it's this. People want to believe that DLC is this new phenomenon to steal hard earned money from them, and it's not.
Then you don't buy it.
But why would you possibly think that this expansion pack, made by an entirely different company than DA:I, a company with a fairly lengthy and promising track record of not making filler, would have anything in common with it?
Old enough to not buy into bullshit that publishers might promise that's so far from release.
Absoludacrous
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What's funny is the first line of that quote has proven to be scarily accurate:
"First and foremost, I think the word DLC has been extremely devalued."
That and people picked out the words they wanted to hear and ignored the rest.
"First and foremost, I think the word DLC has been extremely devalued."
That and people picked out the words they wanted to hear and ignored the rest.
All of the above.
MatrixMan.EXE
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The question I'm asking is, do you really expect a developer from poland to add a whole new region + 30 hours of gameplay to their most expensive game to date and give it to you for free? Gamers and their entitlement these days really sickens me.
Not tiny nothings, but smaller offerings, yes.
16 small pieces of DLC. From armour, customization options, to small quests.
The content announced yesterday are huge expansion packs. A big difference.
Gamezone
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They charge money for garbage DLC. CDPR do this like the old days, when it was done right.
So don't buy it then! Do as they said in the press release, wait until they launch and read the reviews.
giancarlo123x
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Common sense isn't so common. Did people think if they made a big expansion with a lot of original assets they would release it for free to please the fans? this is a business.
why? they clearly said what was going to be free and what they would charge for
His Majesty
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Yes, let's crucify CDProjekt, one of the most consumer friendly developers in the gaming industry, for having the audacity to charge money for a 30 hour expansion.
xplicitone
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DLC and Expansions are different.
Free DLC, Paid Expansions. They really need to release a statement to clarify this. A lot of people are angry even on their facebook post of this yesterday.
Free DLC, Paid Expansions. They really need to release a statement to clarify this. A lot of people are angry even on their facebook post of this yesterday.
Well, that's good, since in the press release the developer expressly states that you should wait, see and decide with your own money and opinion.
So, good for you!
Crankshaft
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I'm happy that someone is going back to expansions instead of DLC. Ten dollars for 1 hour of gameplay is not worth it to me. Bring on some real content.
No that's what we've been calling it since the 80s when the first PC expansion packs were made.
matrixman92
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they literally said in their press release to not buy it right now if you have doubts
Yep, which is why its free. Unfortunately, most other big publishers wont even give you that.
zenosparadox
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Some of GAF is really showing its age and immaturity by freaking out over this. How can you not know what an "expansion" is?
No. But the distinction been made is totally ridiculous. "Expansions" are DLC. Expansions more or less are a marketing term to describe "meaty" DLC: "expanding" the game. But any type of DLC= more content by default. So the point is moot.
What's interesting about all of this is people arguing about semantics on the term DLC and taking sides.
There is only one side. Expansions are DLC period. Whether you're ok with CDPR calling DLC, "Expansions" got nothing to do with the term itself.
Lets take TLOU: Left Behind. It's DLC. Story DLC. Give it to a publisher like Activision and watch it be called an "Expansion".
Gamezone
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Age.
Nintenyearold
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Edit: I've been corrected, I was wrong about what their original statement about DLC was.
They have every right to charge for this, but I feel like people are buying into their spin a bit too hard. They did say something that implied DLC would be free right? And this is DLC by definition of how the term is used in 2015. Ultimately it doesn't matter but there is a bit of a contradiction in their marketing.
They have every right to charge for this, but I feel like people are buying into their spin a bit too hard. They did say something that implied DLC would be free right? And this is DLC by definition of how the term is used in 2015. Ultimately it doesn't matter but there is a bit of a contradiction in their marketing.
Junior shaming. Nice, man. I see the insults are flying. Have a great day people!
Snkfanatic
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I am curious what those against this would call something like Starcraft 2's expansions. Are those DLC too now?
In this case either they are stupid or didn't play older games.
The difference between Expansion and DLC is clear as day if you played some classic PC games.
I bet the 30hr content was in the original 200 hr game. They are cutting it and then charging us to see the ending.
You're right. And those companies have repeatedly shit on consumers in any number of ways.
Meanwhile, CD Projekt Red is straight up saying "don't buy it if you're weary of whether or not it's worth it."
Game has been done since December. Just polishing and bug fixes have been implemented since, meaning yeah, they've had 4 or so months minimum to figure out if/what they wanted to do for DLC/expacs.
Lil'DigiOp
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Thread whining, I know...
But we really don't need two of these threads, Especially when OP didn't even see the main one on first page
But we really don't need two of these threads, Especially when OP didn't even see the main one on first page
Because you have to give reason for people to keep hold of your game. The incentive of more content later down the line will keep many from trading it in.
What's the big deal with announcing more content?
LoserMakesGood
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or you know, have the ability to read
funny thing is...dragon age origins had an expansion called awakening, and everyone was ok with that at the time...that was 10-15 hrs long. cdpr is promising more. so people seem to forget, they are so butthurt with ubi and EA practices that they are blinded by when a developer tries to do something right, or better, which is the case here.
xrnzaaas
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CD Projekt RED imo unintentionally made a lot of enemies by announcing paid expansions prior to the game's release. They should have sticked with the positive "we're giving DLC's for free" theme right until the premiere and then wait a few months before announcing big expansions.
I'm 32, not sure what age has anything to do with it. . I've seen everything that's out there. No news prior to release about an expansion. Previous games had been out for quite a while before an expansion was ever announced or released.
Lone_Prodigy
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Nothing should end on a cliffhanger because they're forcing you to shell out money for a sequel.
There's a difference between releasing a successful game and then later releasing an expansion and straight up charging for a season pass before a game is even out. Sure, dude came out and said to wait for reviews and such but that's still a dirty ass practice. This shit aint kickstarter.
Nintenyearold
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pretty unclear right?
Nope that is crystal clear if that was the original statement. I thought that they had only made statements like this after announcing the expansion. That's what I get for getting news through the GAF spin machine <_<. Thank you for the correction
So, again, people want to be kept in the dark about game development and the future of a title they're going to spend 60 bucks on.
Weird. So weird.
That's the thing. Why are we hearing about it so soon? Now I'm not going to buy the game because I can't afford to buy the complete thing.
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