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[Phoenician_Viking]

WW movie by DC would be huge. There´s no female super hero movie (catwoman lol). If done correctly it will be massive. DC are fools for ignoring her. At least do a tv series about her. Do fucking something.

Yeah, i also want Martian Manhunter and Zatanna movies.

 

[Pie and Beans]

I'm sure Marvel is very very happy with how much Iron Man is making them, but I bet they wish they could get another solo superstar out there on the same level of Iron Man, especially if RDJ does pack it in post Avengers 2+3.

Not sure who theyve got in the stable that could compare really. Would have been better if they'd have gone for a more jovial Hawkeye compared to serious-face Renner so we could maybe have got a quasi-adaption of the current awesome Fraction Hawkeye comic. Although Kate Bishop would be a rushed setup...

I think I'd also like Marvel to go all in on a Ms Marvel/Captain Marvel. Getting the right charismatic plucky actress to play her, she could be a big thing for a female superhero film. I guess Jlaw would be a "star" pick.

And yeah, I always wonder just how mad DC and Warner are in backrooms at how left in the dust they are by Marvel's efforts when they don't even own half their "big" stuff to play with while DC has the whole playboard.

 

[kswiston]

And yeah, I always wonder just how mad DC and Warner are in backrooms at how left in the dust they are by Marvel's efforts when they don't even own half their "big" stuff to play with while DC has the whole playboard.

This is a good point. Not having the X-Men or Spider-man or the FF to a smaller degree would be like the DCU without Batman and Superman.

 

[Phoenician_Viking]

Cap and Thor sequel will gross much more than the first movies. Is there a Hulk movie in the planing? I know there´s a Shield movie.

 

[Exterminieren]

Marvel have essentially built their studio out of scraps and leftovers, and have come out the other side with some of the most successful franchises in the business.

I kinda think that not having the rights to the big boys was a blessing in disguise, though. WB is relying on Batman and Superman, established cinematic presences, to represent the comics in the cinema with only occasional half-arsed attempts to expand. Marvel had to get scrappy and make audiences love their characters, or their studio was doomed from the start.

Cap and Thor sequel will gross much more than the first movies. Is there a Hulk movie in the planing? I know there´s a Shield movie.

Currently on the slate:
Thor: The Dark World (2013)
Captain America: The Winter Soldier (2014)
Guardians of the Galaxy (2014)
Avengers 2 (2015)
Ant-Man (2015)
Doctor Strange (TBA)

There's an Agents of SHIELD TV series in the works, and various other potential franchises coming down the line (we keep hearing about Black Panther screentests) but nothing else confirmed.

 

[ZoddGutts]

Cap and Thor sequel will gross much more than the first movies. Is there a Hulk movie in the planing? I know there´s a Shield movie.

Yeah they should do much better, at least 200 mil more than their first films did. Cap 2 at around 550 mil and Thor 2 around 650 mil. Don't think either film will do a billion though.

 

[Tamanon]

Good on RDJ, he's the heart of the franchise and more important than the armor itself it seems.

I really enjoyed IM3 personally.

 

[TacticalFox88]

Yeah they should do much better, at least 200 mil more than their first films did. Cap 2 at around 550 mil and Thor 2 around 650. Don't think either film will do a billion though.

Although it's a pipe dream, Thor 2 and Cap 2 doing a billion would be fucking hilarious.

DC and WB would shit their pants.

 

[kswiston]

Marvel have essentially built their studio out of scraps and leftovers, and have come out the other side with some of the most successful franchises in the business.

I kinda think that not having the rights to the big boys was a blessing in disguise, though. WB is relying on Batman and Superman, established cinematic presences, to represent the comics in the cinema with only occasional half-arsed attempts to expand. Marvel had to get scrappy and make audiences love their characters, or their studio was doomed from the start.

I think the major difference was that, in Marvel's case, the comicbook company itself decided to self finance movies on its properties. If they didn't deliver, they could have tanked the entire company. They opened up a $550M line of credit to finance Iron Man and their early movies, before they found success/Disney bought them.

On the other hand, Warner Bros has owned DC for over 40 years. WB has never really given a shit about DC properties outside of the licensing money they bring in. They were content to run both the Batman and Superman movie franchises into the ground during the 80s/90s. Largely because most of their studio execs have no clue how to manage the properties.

 

[TheSeks]

DC has got to be looking at those Iron Man numbers and wondering where the fuck they went wrong with their franchises. Its a weird to see more people hyped for Iron Man and Thor than Superman.

DC doesn't have a likeable character outside of Batman.

Green Lantern? In a movie? Are you fucking kidding me?

Granted: Iron Man and Thor are mostly on the actors portraying them than the comic books. The comic variants of them were pretty bad. Just goes to show that Marvel needs screenwriters to evolve characters at times.

 

[kswiston]

Although it's a pipe dream, Thor 2 and Cap 2 doing a billion would be fucking hilarious.

DC and WB would shit their pants.

Thor was not that much smaller than Iron Man overseas. The first Thor actually outgrossed the first Iron Man by a couple of million OS (granted 3D and the exchange rate helped). If Thor 2 gets the same boost that IM3 is getting overseas, it could be huge. Maybe not $1B huge, but $800-900M WW.

 

[Biggest-Geek-Ever]

Disney should really pursue a Hulk movie. That'd be another billion right there just based on peoples' reception to the character in Avengers.

 

[TacticalFox88]

Disney should really pursue a Hulk movie. That'd be another billion right there just based on peoples' reception to the character in Avengers.

I'm not too sure if that's such a good idea.

I think Hulk works best when he doesn't overstay his welcome, i.e like a full film would.

 

[Exterminieren]

There's little doubting that a Hulk movie was the big talking point after the Avengers, and I do kinda think that they're working towards it,

Spoiler

what with the Iron Man 3 post-credits and all.

The problem that they have that The Avengers offers such a wide selection of options to pursue. Do you go for a Hulk movie, or a Black Widow/ Hawkeye movie, or a movie to establish Thanos, or what? A film coming off the back of that has a huge blank cheque, really.

 

[TheSeks]

I think Hulk works best when he doesn't overstay his welcome, i.e like a full film would.

It depends on how much people like Mark Ruffio's Dr. Banner, I guess. But yeah: Hulk isn't really meant to be a 2 hour movie-star since what else does he do besides "HULK SMASH! HULK RAGE! HULK TEAR!"

 

[Manmademan]

Surely there's not that much room for Catching Fire to grow over Hunger games domestically, considering the huge amount the first one managed to get
Expecting it to explode over seas though, and possibly taking the 2D opening record from DKR

Pretty sure hunger games wasn't a 3D movie. with the 3D tax, catching fire can do significantly better if they go that route.

 

[Matt_]

Pretty sure hunger games wasn't a 3D movie. with the 3D tax, catching fire can do significantly better if they go that route.

I don't think they are for Catching Fire
Wonder if they will for the final two, always surprised me that they didn't put 3D on the twilight films

 

[Razgriz-Specter]

DC has got to be looking at those Iron Man numbers and wondering where the fuck they went wrong with their franchises. Its a weird to see more people hyped for Iron Man and Thor than Superman.

Wut?

Shitty Superman Returns did more in the US than Thor did

 

[TacticalFox88]

Wut?

Thor was brought to mainstream audiences attention.

 

[DrForester]

Considering Iron Man is a B list superhero, to have the biggest solo opening ever is quite a feat for Marvel/Disney. I loved the movie, and can't wait for the rest of phase 2.

What the fuck kind of drugs are you on?

Iron Man was B List before that first movie. It'd be silly to call him B List now.

 

[DarkFlow]

All depends on the marketing muscle. It's certainly within the realm of possibility.

Not after superman returns.

 

[mattiewheels]

Now he needs to get Mel Gibson in a Marvel movie.

I could see Mel playing some psycho villain in a superhero movie, the comeback begins.

 

[jakncoke]

Audiences gave it an A Cinemascore rating. Most of the people watching the movie like it just fine, and it should have good legs and word-of-mouth.



It's totally fine for you to be disappointed, but why would that opinion apply to anybody but you?

EDIT: Beaten, but there you go



I was thinking the same thing, and then I realized that the Sherlock Holmes movies made $524m and $543m, respectively. And Tropic Thunder did well ($188m). And Due Date ($211m). Pretty much the only movie of his that hasn't done well since IM1 was The Soloist, and who on Earth thought that was a good one to greenlight?

I liked The Soloist!

Some on GAF really underestimated Ironman. The thread from a few weeks ago, people were saying 125 max

Yeah my WW is already beaten and my OW will be off by 60 iirc

 

[Log4Girlz]

Batman...?

Batman has had a large number of successful entries, starting with Batman in '89 (which was tinged with humor). The Nolan films were top notch and reawakened the franchise. But other than the first two Superman films, that franchise has not fared as well, with Returns being a big disappointment. Perhaps if the budget were modest it would have been more satisfying.

I don't think Superman lends itself well to a 100% dark, gritty style movie. Having an invulnerable hero not make light of himself or a situation from time to time is boring. The trailers imply a dull, boring character who can only be hurt by other dull, boring characters and we're in for some huge budget, dull boring movie. We'll see how it does.

 

[mattiewheels]

Wait, Due Date made $211m? I only first knew about it from seeing the DVD on sale, thought it bombed.

 

[IdreamofHIME]

Disney should really pursue a Hulk movie. That'd be another billion right there just based on peoples' reception to the character in Avengers.

I know Whedon has expressed his feelings that they shouldn't do that. The reason he chose Ruffalo was because he's a great actor and would make audiences enjoy scenes where the big Greenie wasn't running amok.
A full blown HULK movie would ruin that, especially something like World War Hulk/Planet Hulk were Ruffalo wouldn't even be needed.

 

[Blader]

Cap and Thor sequel will gross much more than the first movies. Is there a Hulk movie in the planing? I know there´s a Shield movie.

Plans for the SHIELD movie were scrapped. They're going to focus on it in the tv series and Cap 2 instead.

Feige said they would do another Hulk movie after Avengers 2, but nothing definite yet.

 

[Manmademan]

Wut?

Shitty Superman Returns did more in the US than Thor did

Superman was FAR more well known than Thor at the time, and had two very well regarded films under his belt (superman I and II). It had been so long since III and IV no one really remembered them. Marvel's incarnation of Thor on the other hand was completely unknown to the mainstream.

That's no longer true- Superman returns was high grossing but disappointing, and Thor has tons of hype coming off of Avengers. I would be very surprised to see Man of Steel outgrossing Thor 2.

 

[DarkFlow]

Guardians of the Galaxy, at least, has the whole Space Opera appeal to it. It's very unique compared to other comic books.

But Marvel is planning to release an Ant-Man movie. Whereas DC absolutely cannot manage to make a Wonder Woman or Flash movie, Marvel is preparing Ant-Man.

Yeah, it has a lot more sci-fi elements going for it. People like a good sci-fi movie, and mix comic book heroes into it and you might have a recipe for success. Chris Pratt might also help after zero dark thirty and parks and rec, but not a whole bunch.

 

[Manmademan]

Yeah, it has a lot more sci-fi elements going for it. People like a good sci-fi movie, and mix comic book heroes into it and you might have a recipe for success. Chris Pratt might also help after zero dark thirty and parks and rec, but not a whole bunch.

Chris Pratt isn't a box office draw. let's be realistic here. he IS a fairly good actor with some comedic chops though, so marvel may have scored a great actor for the role for a steal, which means the budget for GOTG can go to something other than overinflated actor salaries.

 

[Biggest-Geek-Ever]

Isn't Guardians of the Galaxy the one with the raccoon? Kudos to Disney if they can market that seriously.

 

[BronsonLee]

Chris Pratt isn't a box office draw. let's be realistic here. he IS a fairly good actor with some comedic chops though, so marvel may have scored a great actor for the role for a steal, which means the budget for GOTG can go to something other than overinflated actor salaries.

All the money goes to Batista.

 

[DarkFlow]

Chris Pratt isn't a box office draw. let's be realistic here. he IS a fairly good actor with some comedic chops though, so marvel may have scored a great actor for the role for a steal, which means the budget for GOTG can go to something other than overinflated actor salaries.

I ment that he's not going to kill the movie. Like people see it and say, "hey that dude from parks and rec was in it and was pretty good!" Lol.

Non related, but I was watching Wanted the other day and did not realize that Chris was his douchbag best friend he hits in the face with a keyboard.

 

[demosthenes]

fixed

He seems genuine when he talks about his comeback. I hope for his sake this never happens again!

 

[demosthenes]

Yeah they should do much better, at least 200 mil more than their first films did. Cap 2 at around 550 mil and Thor 2 around 650 mil. Don't think either film will do a billion though.

They don't need to do that kind of money

 

[Pau]

I gotta hand it to Marvel. They set out a goal and damn did they meet it.

DC has no excuse. It's not like Marvel is making superhero movies of an unattainable quality.

 

[Akahige]

dam 175

 

[a secret-boss]

not surprised the theater I want to had 3 lines for 3 different showings all 30 mins apart.

theater is pack. manager told us to use every chair

 

[Cartman86]

Isn't Guardians of the Galaxy the one with the raccoon? Kudos to Disney if they can market that seriously.

If they can get it into peoples minds that it's part of the Marvel continuity with Iron Man and the Avengers it will succeed. They could easily fuck that up though.

 

[Measley]

Wut?

Shitty Superman Returns did more in the US than Thor did

The point is, an Iron Man movie shouldn't be making more money than a Superman movie. In addition, the very fact that a Thor movie worked and Superman needed to be rebooted, and Green Lantern is in limbo shows that DC is having serious problems with its movies. I thought Thor was going to bomb, and frankly, it should have bombed, but it made over 500 million WW.

Like someone else said; Marvel is taking crazy ass gambles and they're raking in the cash. DC can't even get their big boys in line to make a single good movie.

I think if Dwayne McDuffie was still alive, they would be in a better spot right now. That guy could write some amazing JL stories.

As for the Justice League film, is Christian Bale going to reprise his role? If they put someone else in that role they might as well not even bother.

 

[Discotheque]

He found the role he was born to play.

I just can't accept, and would probably never buy anyone other than Hugh Jackman as Wolverine, and RDjr as Tony Stark.

Dear Shane black. Please cast Mel Gibson and Rdj in ur next flick

Don't care about any other marvel movies now until ant man comes. And mayybe guardians of the galaxy

 

[Bobby Roberts]

Dear Shane black. Please cast Mel Gibson and Rdj in ur next flick

Don't care about any other marvel movies now until ant man comes. And mayybe guardians of the galaxy

The last time Robert Downey Jr. & Mel Gibson were in a movie together:

 

[Akahige]

i can actually see Mel directing IM4... LOL

Mel's a great director, I wouldn't mind this at all

 

[Bobby Roberts]

I dont' think Mel is getting his comeback, you guys. His shit is BURNT.

 

[Akahige]

holy just saw the $41,218 theater average

Third

 

[antonz]

He seems genuine when he talks about his comeback. I hope for his sake this never happens again!

I doubt it will. He has turned his life around big time. Its why he wont turn his back on Mel Gibson. Mel was the only person in Hollywood who would give RDJ a chance. If he hadn't put up the money to insure RDJ we wouldn't be seeing Iron Man with the man born to play Tony Starkj

 

[Razgriz-Specter]

The point is, an Iron Man movie shouldn't be making more money than a Superman movie. In addition, the very fact that a Thor movie worked and Superman needed to be rebooted, and Green Lantern is in limbo shows that DC is having serious problems with its movies. I thought Thor was going to bomb, and frankly, it should have bombed, but it made over 500 million WW.

Like someone else said; Marvel is taking crazy ass gambles and they're raking in the cash. DC can't even get their big boys in line to make a single good movie.

I think if Dwayne McDuffie was still alive, they would be in a better spot right now. That guy could write some amazing JL stories.

As for the Justice League film, is Christian Bale going to reprise his role? If they put someone else in that role they might as well not even bother.

It needed to be anyway, it was a semi sequel conclusion to a 20 year old series. There wasn't much left to do even if it was huge.

People saying WB is sad? they didn't even need DC movies again besides Batman until just recently.
TDK & TDKR each did better than multiple Marvel movies combined.
and thats not even counting them having Harry Potter. Now that its over they do need MOS to preform well, and its looking like it will.
If not, then yes they are in huge trouble.

 

[kswiston]

holy just saw the $41,218 theater average

Third

Best of both worlds doesn't really count, since tickets were selling at a large premium over what was the typical movie price, even in 3D. They sold it as a movie concert rather than a concert movie to justify charging $15-20 a ticket.

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

You know, Avatar had a lot of shit to go its way to be as big as it was. I honestly can't remember any eventful movies to watch for a while before that came out or after it release back in 2009, So meh.

Avatar 2 will not make half of what Avatar made. Book that shit.

Let the Avatar avatar bets begin again!

 

[Raistlin]

And yet they couldn't restructure and keep Lucas Arts open. Sad Disney is essentially giving up on the gaming industry when they have such massive franchises.

I'd argue the licensing model is actually the smarter way to go