This is what I'm talking about. Where in the world did I ever say anything about not invoking sympathy? Where did I absolve a murderer? She's a perjurer. I guess I absolved a perjurer of murder sure. But people are accusing her of it.
BUT if she lied to her husband to cause the acts that would be worse than just perjury. That's not why HE said he did it but sure it could be.
This is what I'm talking about. Where in the world did I ever say anything about not invoking sympathy? Where did I absolve a murderer? She's a perjurer. I guess I absolved a perjurer of murder sure. But people are accusing her of it.
BUT if she lied to her husband to cause the acts that would be worse than just perjury. That's not why HE said he did it but sure it could be.
You guys do realize that this kid did not die as a result of anything she said right? She admitted to lying about a part of it on the witness stand. She was saying something to help set her husband free. The most you could argue was her lie prevented her husband from facing justice. Which we all fucking know they would have gone free anyway.
And really, if you believe the kid could have said anything to justify what happened to him, isn't that the real issue? Her lie was meaningless in reality. Or at least should be meaningless. To call her equally as responsible for the murder? GTFO.
This is what I'm talking about. Where in the world did I ever say anything about not invoking sympathy? Where did I absolve a murderer? She's a perjurer. I guess I absolved a perjurer of murder sure. But people are accusing her of it.
BUT if she lied to her husband to cause the acts that would be worse than just perjury. That's not why HE said he did it but sure it could be.
What is achieved in absolving "some" of the guilt of this woman? Why is this so important to you? You're speaking in what ifs just so that we would stop railroading her in this thread.
I want to know why you felt so compelled to come to her defense
Ahhh, you kind-of just proved his point. This forum certainly has a lot more "Fuck you, holy shit" posts than it does proper discussion.You dont know what the FUCK youre talking about and then you go and reuse republican talking points to shame people. Fuck you, holy shit.
I feel no compulsion to defend her. It's not about her. She is still evil in my eyes. It's about discourse on this forum and how people pile on and toss aside reason.
Ahhh, you kind-of just proved his point. This forum certainly has a lot more "Fuck you, holy shit" posts than it does proper discussion.
Ahhh, you kind-of just proved his point. This forum certainly has a lot more "Fuck you, holy shit" posts than it does proper discussion.
Well when you come and post in defense of white supremacy and racists, you shouldn't expect a reasoned discussion.
Ahhh, you kind-of just proved his point. This forum certainly has a lot more "Fuck you, holy shit" posts than it does proper discussion.
I feel no compulsion to defend her. It's not about her. She is still evil in my eyes. It's about discourse on this forum and how people pile on and toss aside reason.
But, I just originally read the quote of him saying why he did it. If that was true then I stand by what I said. If it was the second hand account (of what Cyan posted) of the made up story that she lied to him to get him to do something to the kid that's different.
I mean, I guess I don't understand why trying to get to the truth of a matter is "defending" them. It's just finding the truth. Whether that helps or hurts them is not relevant. There is no agenda to helping or harming. It's not defending racism or racists. It's sad that's so hard for so many to understand and see the difference.
Ahhh, you kind-of just proved his point. This forum certainly has a lot more "Fuck you, holy shit" posts than it does proper discussion.
I mean, I guess I don't understand why trying to get to the truth of a matter is "defending" them. It's just finding the truth. Whether that helps or hurts them is not relevant. It's not defending racism or racists. It's sad that's so hard for so many to understand.
I never said you should be kind. I'm just saying he made a post that basically said posters would rather insult instead of discuss something and it gets followed up by a response with an insult.Tell me why we should be kind to someone who defends white supremacist?
I never said you should be kind. I'm just saying he made a post that basically said posters would rather insult instead of discuss something and it gets followed up by a response with an insult.
By all means insult away.
Ok facts: 14 year old emmett till brutally murdered on August 28th 1955 after allegedly coming onto a white woman.Ahhh, you kind-of just proved his point. This forum certainly has a lot more "Fuck you, holy shit" posts than it does proper discussion.
I never said you should be kind. I'm just saying he made a post that basically said posters would rather insult instead of discuss something and it gets followed up by a response with an insult.
By all means insult away.
He spins racism so much he should be called The Top
I never said you should be kind. I'm just saying he made a post that basically said posters would rather insult instead of discuss something and it gets followed up by a response with an insult.
By all means insult away.
You made an irreverent claim and after getting called out on it moved the goalposts to maybe, buts, and ifs. Then doubled down and said you were only interested in "the truth"
Stop lying as if you came into this thread with honest intentions
OK dude ya got me! You're so clever. If anyone knew me in real life you would know how laughable it is to insinuate I'm in any way a racist. I support and walk with BLM FFS. But whatever you know me too well I guess.
OK dude ya got me! You're so clever. If anyone knew me in real life you would know how laughable it is to insinuate I'm in any way a racist. I support and walk with BLM FFS. But whatever you know me too well I guess.
Ahhh, you kind-of just proved his point. This forum certainly has a lot more "Fuck you, holy shit" posts than it does proper discussion.
White Supremacy is magical even when a racist comes out and says they did shit cause they are racist, folks will kill themselves trying to spin it into something else.
"I have black friends, but I am still going to question Emmett Till"
I feel sorry for them
I don't have fucking token black friends. I support and strongly believe in equality for all people in all ways. But no, because someone might disagree with you they have to be racist.
What discussion should we be having here? How it isn't that poor white woman's fault that two pieces of shit torture a child to death?
I haven't seen someone rush in to defend white supremacy this much since seanspeed.
That you don't see how what he has been saying, in detail, has been horrendously insulting and instead clutch pearls at the response to such incorrigible ignorance is telling.
Alright. I see what you guys are getting at. Sorry, I just read his post about lack of discussion and saw the post after it which seemed ironic to me. I didn't read too far in to what his actually argument was.What kind of discussion is their to be had really? This women's actions lead to the death of a child and she waited nearly 60 years to admit she lied. This women has expressed no remorse for what she did and she is a coward.
I don't have fucking token black friends. I support and strongly believe in equality for all people in all ways is my only point. But no, because someone might disagree with you they have to be racist.
OK dude ya got me! You're so clever. If anyone knew me in real life you would know how laughable it is to insinuate I'm in any way a racist. I support and walk with BLM FFS. But whatever you know me too well I guess.
You are disagreeing about the culpability of a white woman who knew fucking well what happened to black people in the south during the fucking 50's. Take the L and move on.
I don't have fucking token black friends. I support and strongly believe in equality for all people in all ways is my only point. But no, because someone might disagree with you they have to be racist.
I already said if her lie is what caused him to do this (and she knew it would be detrimental) then yes I acquiesce my point. There was a quote from him explaining why he did it though and it didn't say that.
I don't have fucking token black friends. I support and strongly believe in equality for all people in all ways is my only point. But no, because someone might disagree with you they have to be racist.
I hope the Devil gives this woman the treatment cuz fuck her.
I'm not white knighting or caping or concern trolling or anything. Everyone was arguing of course she knew exactly what was going to happen.
This happened in 1955, not 1908. Lynching was not a commonplace thing at that point. There were 8 or 9 reported lynchings in the 50s (with the caveat that of course not all of these things were recorded, especially in a backwards place like Mississippi)
That being said, she lied on the stand in a court. Her testimony probably helped admitted child murderers get off and I hate that my writing anything in this thread even makes it seem like I care about her well being or mental state whatsoever. I don't.
I still wish this forum wasn't so aggressive though. There is an ignore option for a reason.