Jo Shishido's Cheeks
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Damn.
She's like a female ODB.
She's like a female ODB.
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Woman held over racist bus rant [video]
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Dude Abides
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Nice to see that London public transport provides an equal opportunity forum for crazy racist ranting.
The twitter arrests still look crazy on the inside. It's like having to spend time in jail every time you get banned from NeoGAf.
Yeah I've been living here a few years. Eventually I'll head back to the US though.
After seeing the news stories people get about America I know how it feels to have everyone think your home is batshit crazy (Bonus: I'm from Florida!). Some people think rivers of blood flow down our streets lol. I'll just have to remember to keep my insane racist rants to myself if I ever head your way
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Ironic that the British born person is being told to "go home" by someone who came here from Poland simply because they are "brown" and Muslim.
IISANDERII
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Mostly she was extolling the virtues and hardships of her African heritage.
"Stupid white kunts" was the worst I heard. Big deal, I'd give her a 40 Euro fine.
"Stupid white kunts" was the worst I heard. Big deal, I'd give her a 40 Euro fine.
And a ban on GAF.
SniperHunter
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The people from the UK are really rude. I met a British guy in the elevator and said hi to him, tried striking a conversation about where he worked and, all he did was call me a "Paki," it was kind of funny and I shrugged it off at that moment.
I don't think people should be jailed for being racist though, seems like an absurd law to me.
edit: I shouldn't generalize, it was one old asshole after all. My bad!
I don't think people should be jailed for being racist though, seems like an absurd law to me.
edit: I shouldn't generalize, it was one old asshole after all. My bad!
I was on the way to hitting reply to scold you when I saw your edit.
We all have anecdotal tales that prove / disprove a theory.
Speedymanic
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Edmond Dantès;41283011 said:
Jesus wept.
I'm disappointed those girls didn't press charges, idiots like this need to be put behind bars, if only so she doesn't harm her baby any more than she already has.
Goddamn.
Count Dookkake
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Loony lady, loonier law.
Speedymanic
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i stopped watching when she said freemasons. She clearly isn't well, seems a waste of time and resources arresting her or maybe they've done the right thing and arrested her under the mental health act so maybe she'll finally get the help she clearly needs.
Not really, I'd rather not have to listen to somebody being vulgar and racist.
They can still express their opinions more respectfully.
But hey, that's a difference between US and UK, the US are used to having more freedom.
Count Dookkake
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Yes, really, but whatev.
Why is Gaf moderated, shouldn't we be allowed to say whatever we want?
Count Dookkake
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False equivalency.
Do you really need the difference explained to you?
I think you might be mangling the US (prisons for profit) and the UK (laws against this sort of thing). I suspect you're also conflating about 1000 different posters.
I don't think many in this thread are actually cheering for her to go to jail, it's more that we know that's what happens when you get loudly and aggressively racist on public transport.
Yes.
Why should somebody be allowed to be racist and offensive in public?
Don't you think Neogaf is a better place, as it is moderated?
Don't worry, White racist Londoners got you covered dude.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0IOj1J-4Po
Count Dookkake
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There is a difference between censoring on a private message board and state-issued punishment. What I want NeoGAF to "punish", I don't necessarily want a government to punish. Trying to equate the two on general terms as you did is fundamentally flawed in my opinion.
Speedymanic
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Guaranteed audience and the possibility of finding someone who will engage you so you can vent some more or become physically violent.
MWS Natural
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Wish we had these laws in the US.
Byakuya769
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Haha. You win, this time!
Machine
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I'm doing exactly that. Purposely. Feel free to speculate on the point I was trying to make.
What in fucks name...
What in the fuck of all fucks.
I really hope she got the same treatment from the law as the black women in the op. Fuck em both.
Edit: she did...good.
show us your studies to prove this
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Vilix
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Down with whitey!
flippymittens
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Well as long as everything is documented/recorded and true than I do not see the big deal. We do not really have free speech or privacy, we have "free speech with responsibility". I love how some are apparently getting on the high horse about being able to say racist things.
My findings will be published in all the reputable sociology journals good fellow.
Ravensmash
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Nah, I'd say people also have the right to not have racial abuse shouted towards them in public. I think that's a freedom people should have also.
Mammoth Jones
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The fact that people "don't see the big deal" with their first amendment rights is beyond mind boggling.
I understand not saying "Fire!" in a crowded room. I understand not making threatening statements. But racial epithets while disgusting are tried and true protected speech. It's an EXTREMELY slippery slope when we start cherry-picking what's "offensive". Doubly so when the government gets to do it...
Thanks but no thanks. I've been called a "ni**er" to my face and life went on.
This translates to: People should have the right to not be offended. Problem is where does it end? Just with racial words? Since the majority of people in the US identify as Christians would it be ok to ban religious insults? After all, it's offensive to have someone say something disparaging about the Lord Christ. Or can we take it a tiny step beyond that and ban insulting words in general? And if we're banning insulting words, why not insulting actions?
It's pretty amazing that these seem to mostly happen in London. The lack of interaction between people sharing the same place is pretty amazing really. It always catches me blind when I go back. I didn't really think anything of it when I was living there, but since I moved it's much more obvious to see. I would have thought that this kind of thing is less likely to happen in other parts of the country.
Zoramon089
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Too true
flippymittens
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Yes but if you can not say threats or raise false flags with your words. Why can you be allowed to freely insult or demean someone over something they have little control over.
It is hate speech that further divides people and can cause violence.
We do not have free speech either. Someone could take the same "I've been called a "ni**er" to my face and life went on.".
Some people threaten others but do not act on their threats... Life went on as you put it. I am not equating a threat on life to the n-word but both cause very negative effects on society.
Air Zombie Meat
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Yes it does end there. At least in the UK. There has been no slippery slope over here.
Mammoth Jones
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I may not agree with what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it?
Good for the UK. I just don't agree with that. If someone wants to be a douche with non-threatening words I think they should be free to do so....
I agree.
People may say "it's different on NeoGAF", but ask yourself why it is that you prefer NeoGAF to be moderated.
Being religious is a choice. Being a particular race, having a particular sexual orientation, or whether you are disabled or not is not a choice.Mammoth Jones said:
Having no restrictions means that you can have lunatics at soldiers' funerals waving banners with "GOD HATES FAGS" written on them. In the UK, the law would not allow that to happen and that's a good thing IMO - the rights of the families of the deceased should be protected, not the rights of homophobic idiots.
You are surprised that someone bothered to record, upload, and forward to police. Yet you suggest they gather people together and throw her out. I would say that recording and reporting take less effort, considering that strangers on a bus aren't likely to just follow your orders.
Air Zombie Meat
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They generally are though. It's not like people don't ever use racist language over here. The law only ever gets enforced in situations like the op when people are inciting or making a public nuisance. I understand how much you guys are attached to your first amendment though so I don't expect the law to change over there.
BertramCooper
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Arresting a woman who's clearly mentally ill for saying a bunch of racist blabber? Seriously?
The U.S. can learn a lot from Europe, no doubt, but definitely not when it comes to freedom of expression.
The U.S. can learn a lot from Europe, no doubt, but definitely not when it comes to freedom of expression.
Mammoth Jones
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Not to some deeply religious people. And even if that's so, that makes it magically acceptable because they could "choose" to not be the subject of insults by changing or denouncing their religion....help me here.....
My point is as disgusting as that shit is...I don't believe it's right to start cherry picking which speech is A-OK and which speech isn't. What happens when the government bans speech critical of government? That has happened many many many times in history and one of the reasons the 1st Amendment exists in the first place.
Being verbally mean shouldn't be a crime.
I understand that. I don't think people in the UK are huddled around campfires afraid the thought-police will nab them if they say one bad word, LMAO. I'm just trying to rationalize why in the US people have the right to say just about whatever they want. This is why the KKK can have a rally and denounce me, my family and all my kind as scum. I don't think the law is going to change either. I'm just saying it *shouldn't* change.
She may just be drunk/high.
But because she's mentally ill (assuming she is), that means that she shouldn't be arrested? I would say it should be taken into account after the fact, but it shouldn't exempt her from arrest.
But it IS a choice. Always.Mammoth Jones said:
Here on GAF I can say "religion is utter nonsense and I think we'd be better off without it". Why can I say that, but I can't make negative comments about peoples' race, gender or sexual preference? That's the answer to your question.Mammoth Jones said:
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