I won't be.
Particularly because I think her love interest moving forward is going to be more Affleck-shaped.
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I won't be.
Particularly because I think her love interest moving forward is going to be more Affleck-shaped.
I bet they're being put into suspended animation on Themyscira to heal after getting seriously hurt at the end of the movie or something. I can't see them using those characters only once.
Given how they dispatched Jimmy Olsen in BvS I seriously doubt that they are going to make that mistake again with Steve Trevor.
But, as someone mentioned earlier, we don't know whether a potential Wonder Woman 2 would be set in modern day or not long after the events of the first film leading into WW2.
I think it's probable that Pine will play Trevor's ancestor and again work with Diana in modern day DCU.
That would be a terrible, terrible idea, so I hope they don't do that (also, it'd be great-grandson, at least, at this point).
Why would the Jimmy Olsen thing at all influence their thinking on Trevor? The mere fact that Trevor is being used in a World War I origin story kind of inherently presupposes he's not around in the modern day.
True, but this is a film about an powerful Amazonian warrior brought to life by Zeus.
I think there's a lot of 'give and take' when it comes to how reality and the rules of time and space tie into this film's narrative.
Trevor and his great-grandson were basically identical. This has been done before in the WW canon so it's not a stretch they take that route.
Chained Prometheus
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Yeah, while I could totally see Chris Pines popping up again in the DCEU, I definitely got the impression that they're setting up a Bruce/Diana fling in BvS that we'll see develop more in the JL films.
If we see Pines in more films past this, the most likely scenarios are either a) a descendant that looks just like him, b) flashbacks to WW1-era with Steve or c) dreams/hallucinations in which Steve is featured.
It was a stupid idea in the TV series too, but then, the TV series was pure camp, not something I'd consider a model for a modern film series (or the comics).
It's the same as when some people wanted Hayley Atwell to play Sharon. It devalues the characters and encourages the audience to view them as basically interchangeable, as well as negating any sense that the passage of time has meaning.
PlayALLtheGames
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It's cool but I'll split hairs and say her legs are moving backwards too fast near the end which is obviously from being pulled. Nobody's lower half moves like that. Could be more natural.
In fact, when you extrapolate it, it's curious as to what her landing position ends up being, seeing as how her bottom half is rotating backwards while her entire body moves backwards.
This seems kind of unfair to the rest of victims.
WarMacheen
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Had my doubts, but casting Gal Gadot as Wonder Woman, was the perfect choice. Trailer was wonderful and I hope the movie slays
Here's how you know that Trevor won't make it to modern day. You just have to ask yourself what is more appealing to the juevenile audience? Seeing wonder woman have a romance with a upstanding but otherwise regular dude, or their power fantasy hero Superbat banging the Queen of the Amazons.
It's possible that it might be Superman rather than Batman. Knowing Snyder, he'll avert by the Knightmare timeline by killing off Lois, but giving Supes Wondy to bang. But given they are going to be spending atleast one movie together, it's possible it'll be Batfleck too, so it's up in the air.
Before, I was hoping they wouldn't do this, and I guess i still hope, but I know better than to expect them not to.
What I don't understand is how or why the solider doesn't take a shot. At that range you wouldn't even have to be a great aim to hit her square.
Why are you assuming its forced?
I'm talking about romances other Steve Trevor. Every time they try to pair her with another League like Superman or Batman it's always forced.
Keep in mind BvS is the movie that defined "love of a good woman" as the solution to problems of depression and hopelessnes and positioned Superman as abandoning any principles he holds upon the death of Lois.
The kind of writers that place women on those kinds of pedastals, that their the literal moral grounding that men need to use to not be literally drift in a state of amoral hopelessness, is generally not the kind that depicts 'realistic' romances. It's not about the recipient being Batman or Superman, it's about how the director depicts women and BvS's was less than ideal.
The kind of writers that place women on those kinds of pedastals, that their the literal moral grounding that men need to use to not be literally drift in a state of amoral hopelessness, is generally not the kind that depicts 'realistic' romances. It's not about the recipient being Batman or Superman, it's about how the director depicts women and BvS's was less than ideal.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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WW is directed by Patti Jenkins and it'll be framed as a love/war story, so hopefully there will be some positive development on that front, especially with the dynamics between WW/Trevor
Oh, I'm sure WW has every chance of being good, on the romance front as well.
It's JL that I'm talking about. Wonder Woman came out relatively unscathed from BvS by not being much in it. That's not going to be the case of JL.
In all fairness, there is a an uncomfortable precedent when it comes to Superman and losing his way when his family dies.
Usually it is Lois. But on occasion it is his son as well.
Either he goes crazy, evil or just peaces out.
It's just a lame and cliche storytelling device at this point, something I have a bad reaction to unless it's done really well. Hell, it bothers me that we basically know nothing about Bruce's parents. When I was a kid, them being parents that died was enough, but now if you're expecting me to take a death of a character as something that launches another character into character development, then you better develop the everloving fuck of that character before you do.
And women have it especially bad in this regard. "Dead wife/mother/sister/daughter/etc" is the go-to. Like, if they kill off Lois right now, I don't feel I know her beyond being Superman's girlfriend that tries to reassure him every once in a while and is a journalist who is competent at investigations but terrible at letting anyone know the results of said investigations.
I just don't consider it a good way to tell a story anymore unless the writer does work to make the character stand on their own and not just a corpsey plot device.
WrenchNinja
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That trailer was all over the place. The "That's neat" line doesn't really land well.
Carried BvS? Hardly
WW was basically just a glorified cameo. Snyder had her in the movie to land a couple zingers (You've never known a woman like me) and to have a couple "Wow" moments in the final battle.
WrenchNinja
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how do you carry a movie youre barely in
She directed Monster, btw. Very excited for this movie, even though I'm not really a fan of WW and I wanted someone with muscles to play the role. (I think Gadot is a great actress, btw, and will do a good job playing Diana. I just really wanted someone who had a physicality that Gadot lacks.)
thecouncil
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This trailer and those smirks in BvS proves that Gal Gadot as Wonder Woman is the most perfect superhero casting since RDJ as Iron Man. Might even be better than that, actually.
LegendofDragoonLives
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Batman carried BvS, not a 5 minute cameo. Saying that, I definitely enjoyed all her scenes.
By being the highlight of the movie obviously, no but seriously carry maybe it's not the right word but the times she appeared were the bright spots of the movie. I didn't really like Batman in BvS, I mean it's not Affleck's fault, it was how the character was written that I had problems with.
He is behaving more like Batman in the JL trailer, though.
Yeezus H. Christ
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yeaaaah i'd hold back on that until her movie actually comes out lmfao
pretty sure he is not being serious.
Spyder_Monkey
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The only time my packed theater cheered at BvS was when Wonder Woman came on screen in costume. She's a badass and has screen presence that rivals Batman and possibly Captain America. For comparison's sake my packed showings of Star Wars and Deadpool were met with a lot of cheers and laughs.
Ehh, the justice league batman and Diana relationship was great.
DarkJediKnight
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LOOK MA!!! COLOUR!!!
Love the trailer. Love the WW theme! Sounds like the perfect theme for "When I'm about to do something really really stupid" lol
Love the trailer. Love the WW theme! Sounds like the perfect theme for "When I'm about to do something really really stupid" lol
foxuzamaki
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I fucking love her in that picture so much, I think its the way her hair is with what she's wearing, makes her look godly to me idk
why doesn't he shoot, she's just sort of floating there, and brought a bow to a gun fight
That's cause it was barely a relationship. Small instances of flirting stretched across four seasons of television. Hawkgirl or Vixen + Lantern, GA + BC, and Question + Huntress were always better relationships on that show.
Any time they try more than light flirting with Diana + either Batman or Supes, shit is either boring or just terrible.
He was given strict orders from the director to no shoot under ANY circumstances.
Emulated Hype
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Arrow & Cannery ended up being my favorite on the show. Hope they get represented in the DCU at some point.
True Savior
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Its a hot girl with a bow. You are supposed to look at it marvelous in any circumstance.
I would argue that the Diana/Batman flirting in JLU was more interesting than the John/Vixen/Hawkgirl triangle. That BETRAYAL angst wore thin pretty quickly IMO.
Obviously there's a ceiling to any Batman love connection. Him in a relationship doesn't fly and that's why you only ever get brief look-ins at his relationships with Selina or Talia, let alone Diana. I think it's an interesting thing to try on film, though. We've had a lot of "Lois Lane" type love interests across film, and that's exactly what Steve Trevor is.
Whether or not they go there, I think Chris Pine is one and done.
PowderedToast
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gal gadot is not good...she doesn't hold the screen at all
why is it so hard to find an actor who is charismatic?
why is it so hard to find an actor who is charismatic?
firehawk12
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Why is she fighting in WW1?
Lord Fagan
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Being that she's a near immortal warrior goddess posing as an ancient weapons dealer in Batman v Superman, I imagine the angle with Steve will have all kinds of original Highlander vibes.
iRAWRasaurus
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Cause WW1 is the new WW2, modern combat, futuristic warfare!
SpacePirate Ridley
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Holy shit. Real steve trevor, real etta candy, ig feels like the animated womder woman movie but in WW1, and the effects are great and colorful!
WW deserves this.
WW deserves this.
Because WW1 brings Chris Pine to the Greek island where the Amazons live and Diana believes they can no longer live as recluses and they need to get involved in this.
Something along those lines, I believe.
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