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World Cup 2022 definitely not in the summer

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Cry me a river. The timing of the world cup is completely arbitrary, it's not like the winter olympics where you need snow. An extended winter break is not a big deal, the southern hemisphere countries do it all the time on world cup years.

The world cup is coming to the arab world at last. If some salty Europeans don't want to come is no big deal. There are millions from the region who will.
 
I read that Fox, which paid over a billion to televise '18 and '22 WCs in the US, will be furious if this happens. They bid on summer content. The NFL is going on in the winter and Fox shows that, which is the most important sports property here by far.
 
Jupp said:
I read Blatter voted against Qatar bid
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He knew it would have enought votes ;)

The whole process stank, from holding two WC votes at the same time to the dodgy winners. The fact that so many people are DYING to make the stadiums in both Brazil and Qatar is enough to put a stain on both of them as far as I'm concerned.

Edit: wow, what a moronic post 7aged. Qatar was clearly not the best bid, as shown by reports into each venue before the votes, this will ruin many league fixtures, Qatar bid on the assumption of a summer WC and made assurances that it was possible (everyone knew it wasn't) and are using slave labour to make the stadia. But let's just ignore all that, we're just salty Europeans huh?
 
I don't think it'll affect leagues that much, because most of them just won't change. It's not the leagues that'll suffer, it's the world cup. It'll be like the Soviet Olympics when the USA didn't turn up - basically just a joke that everyone considers "not a real Olympics".
 
Nicktendo86 said:
He knew it would have enought votes ;)

The whole process stank, from holding two WC votes at the same time to the dodgy winners. The fact that so many people are DYING to make the stadiums in both Brazil and Qatar is enough to put a stain on both of them as far as I'm concerned.
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The fact that you're BUYING the whole "thousands will die building this" tells me you know nothing
 
xbhaskarx said:
Yup I'm pretty sure Blatter was for the US bid which came in second, and yet he gets the blame for Qatar, people rarely mention Michel Platini, Mohamed bin Hammam, the old Argentinian guy who said voting for the US would be like voting for England...
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On May 31, 2011, in an interview with German press, when asked about who he voted for to receive the 2018 and 2022 World Cup hosting rights Grondona said, "Yes, I voted for Qatar, because a vote for the US would be like a vote for England, and that is not possible [...] But with the English bid I said: Let us be brief. If you give back the Falkland Islands, which belong to us, you will get my vote. They then became sad and left."
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What a complete shit head. I would say that I can't believe they let official representatives hold such political bias but... this if FIFA. Of course I believe it.
 
xbhaskarx said:
Yup I'm pretty sure Blatter was for the US bid which came in second, and yet he gets the blame for Qatar, people rarely mention Michel Platini, Mohamed bin Hammam, the old Argentinian guy who said voting for the US would be like voting for England...
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It doesn't matter what Blatter voted for. Misdirection. FIFA is corrupt to the core. The plan was set in motion for Qatar and they achieved their goal.

Lets not forget that Russia of all places got the World Cup as well, they didn't even flinch as it was in the bag before it even started.

FIFA is an old boys club. Just one big corrupt gravy train. They are all at it, Platini is a tool, Hammam is proven dodgy time and again. Can't beleive they haven't been investigated thoroughly. That old Swiss chestnut, nothing to see here.

I hope they get taken down one day. Countries need to take a stand now and refuse to compete.
 
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7aged said:
Cry me a river. The timing of the world cup is completely arbitrary, it's not like the winter olympics where you need snow. An extended winter break is not a big deal, the southern hemisphere countries do it all the time on world cup years.

The world cup is coming to the arab world at last. If some salty Europeans don't want to come is no big deal. There are millions from the region who will.
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The fact it happens in the southern hemisphere doesn't really matter - basically all the best players in the world play in the "salty" European leagues. Go look at Argentina and Brazil, far and away the best Southern Hemisphere teams - they have one or two players in their squads that play domestically. All the rest play in Europe. If "Europe" doesn't "want to come", then it's not a real world cup. Hosting it in anything other than a northern-hemisphere summer is putting politics before the actual game.
 
Should do a re-vote.

Everyone said those air-conditioned stadiums would not be possible, yet they won the vote with that and as it turns out now, nope, they clearly were not possible to make so they have it in the winter instead. Not to mention the whole deal with gays having to stay home, no beer in the stadium and now they will also have to re-negotiate all their tv deals... No way Fox is giving that huge amount of money for a winter world cup.

Oh yeah and look at the working conditions as already posted in the thread.
 
7aged said:
Cry me a river. The timing of the world cup is completely arbitrary, it's not like the winter olympics where you need snow. An extended winter break is not a big deal, the southern hemisphere countries do it all the time on world cup years.

The world cup is coming to the arab world at last. If some salty Europeans don't want to come is no big deal. There are millions from the region who will.
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Yeah it will probably be a great worldcup without players from the European Leagues..
 
7aged said:
Cry me a river. The timing of the world cup is completely arbitrary, it's not like the winter olympics where you need snow. An extended winter break is not a big deal, the southern hemisphere countries do it all the time on world cup years.

The world cup is coming to the arab world at last. If some salty Europeans don't want to come is no big deal. There are millions from the region who will.
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Qatar should never have won because it came out worst compared to all the other countries.

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As I wrote a couple of years ago: The problem with Qatar is that the country is tiny (1.7 million inhabitants), there's really only one big city where almost everyone in Qatar lives. The rest of the country is inhospitable desert. Plus Qatar is a non-entity in international football. The climate is poor too, summers are incredibly hot. The giant stadiums in Qatar have to be recyclable, because the country doesn't have clubs that could ever fill them. Most of them will be torn down after the WC and it won't matter since Qatar is rich enough to spend billions on this prestige tournament. There's not ONE good reason why this country should host the biggest football tournament in the world but since Qatar is an incredibly rich oil state it's easy to figure out how they won.

Qatar bought the 1922 world cup, there's no way around it.
 
This is a serious issue which demands that everyone involved, companies, associations, politics and their population sit around one table and discuss wherever or not it makes sense to organize the WC in Qatar given the corruption that surrounds the bid.
 
CyclopsRock said:
The fact it happens in the southern hemisphere doesn't really matter - basically all the best players in the world play in the "salty" European leagues. Go look at Argentina and Brazil, far and away the best Southern Hemisphere teams - they have one or two players in their squads that play domestically. All the rest play in Europe. If "Europe" doesn't "want to come", then it's not a real world cup. Hosting it in anything other than a northern-hemisphere summer is putting politics before the actual game.
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I made no mention of players. Just the general public. The players are professional, they go where the match is. G-14 won't try to rebel because boycotting would not just kill this world cup, but the entire international football scene.
 
7aged said:
I made no mention of players. Just the general public. The players are professional, they go where the match is. G-14 won't try to rebel because boycotting would not just kill this world cup, but the entire international football scene.
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I know you didn't. But the players turning up are what matters. They are professionals - and they play professionally for clubs. That's where the matches are, which is rather the point. Clubs and football associations don't have to "boycott" it. They just won't go - unless all the European leagues bend over backwards to reschedule, which I don't believe will happen.
 
xbhaskarx said:
Yup I'm pretty sure Blatter was for the US bid which came in second, and yet he gets the blame for Qatar, people rarely mention Michel Platini, Mohamed bin Hammam, the old Argentinian guy who said voting for the US would be like voting for England...
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Man.

Somebody explain me in very simple, very clear words how the heck this guy can manage to have a job anywhere.

Edit: Wow, the controversies section over the Spanish wiki is a heck of a lot worse. Grondona is walking pile of human manure.
 
CyclopsRock said:
I know you weren't. But the players turning up are what matters. They are professionals - and they play professionally for clubs. That's where the matches are, which is rather the point. Clubs and football associations don't have to "boycott" it. They just won't go - unless all the European leagues bend over backwards to reschedule, which I don't believe will happen.
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Not to mention many can't reschedule due to television rights.
 
ЯAW;96330506 said:
Not to mention many can't reschedule due to television rights.
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Well theoretically they could, though they'd need to schedule the negotiations or go back and renegotiate around this happening. I guess it depends on how far ahead the TV rights are scheduled - do you know? I don't.
 
xbhaskarx said:
Qatar promised a summer World Cup with air conditioned stadiums when they won the bid, if they are unable to deliver, people should demand that the bidding and voting be redone.
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Hahahaha FIFA would have to give the bribe money back... ain't happening....
 
USA 94 has been the best world cup of all time in terms of attendance and money. Another WC in USA should be a no-brainer.
 
Funky Papa said:
Man.

Somebody explain me in very simple, very clear words how the heck this guy can manage to have a job anywhere.

Edit: Wow, the controversies section over the Spanish wiki is a heck of a lot worse. Grondona is walking pile of human manure.
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Tiny, tiny countries have the same number of votes as the largest countries, so you can easily build massive voting blocks by allowing those delegates to do whatever they want (like the piece of shit Jack Warner)

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Meanwhile, Britain's FIFA vice-president Jim Boyce said he was 'totally surprised' at the statement - and confirmed the decision had to be taken by the executive committee.

'I was totally surprised this morning when I heard what Jerome has said,' Boyce said.

'As I understand it all the stakeholders will have discussions and report back to the executive committee of FIFA and no final decision will be made on when the 2022 World Cup would be played until December 2014 or March 2015.

'As far as I am concerned that remains the situation and there has been nothing said to me to make that any different.'

Boyce, from Northern Ireland, said Valcke 'may have been stating his personal opinion'.
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7aged said:
Cry me a river. The timing of the world cup is completely arbitrary
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no it's not, it's when the major European Leagues, were the only players that matter play, have their off-season.

the russians stop in the winter but guess what, no one gives a fuck about what Gazprom wants.
 
7aged said:
Cry me a river. The timing of the world cup is completely arbitrary, it's not like the winter olympics where you need snow. An extended winter break is not a big deal, the southern hemisphere countries do it all the time on world cup years.

The world cup is coming to the arab world at last. If some salty Europeans don't want to come is no big deal. There are millions from the region who will.
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That shitty region barely has a few million who aren't living in poverty...not to mention zero accomplishments on a club or international level.
 
The bid was won on the premise of A/C stadiums. This is bullshit and the bidding process should reopen again. My prediction is that Qatar 2022 will be to the World cup what Berlin 1936 was for the olympics. Something that everyone wants to forget that happened.
 
Absolutely can't wait for this WC! Some of their technological prospects look staggeringly good. Hoping I'll be able to go by then. Some of you guys need to be open to some...change? It's scary I know but that doesn't mean it's bad.
 
Ikuu said:
Really should have went to someone like England.
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Certainly more than the USA...we're the home of the game and we haven't had a World Cup since 1966

Actually....my route to work now includes two stations that go to one of the potential English venues (Aston, and Witton which both go to Villa Park in Birmingham)............England should never have a World Cup again!

In fairness I don't think the British Isles will be allowed to host anything until Blatter gets his way and we see a United Kingdom Football Team, sometime in two thousand and never (Not that I disagree with the concept, I just know it's never going to happen)
 
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