TemplaerDude
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Dan said:
Reasonable people aren't stupid loony bin material.
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World Trade Center: The Movie
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Reasonable people aren't stupid loony bin material.
*rolls eyes*TemplaerDude said:
Go read the United 93 threads. There are some very obvious disconnects between the evidence and conclusions of the 9/11 Commission Report. I'm not one of those freaks trying to argue that the administration blew up the WTC or that the planes launched missiles. On the scale of "conspiracy theories", the notion that United 93 was shot down ranks as one of the least controversial, considering we know jets were in the air with repeated orders to shoot it down and it took a couple hours for the government to supposedly confirm that it crashes on its own accord and not a missile.
TemplaerDude
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Dan said:
I'm afraid that's all I saw.
Suburban Cowboy
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the movie looks corny and melodramatic. Not to mention Nicholas Cage is obnoxious when he does accents. I cringed when i watched the trailer. I had no problem with Flight ##, but this one looks like crap
ForzaItalia
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Anyone who pays to watch this crap deserves an ass kicking....
Ned Flanders
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No bunny, no sale.
BiPolarGod
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Looks worse than United 93. And I still stand to boycott both of these horrific movies. If not for the horrible premise behind their money making.. then for the shitty acting and bullshit that'll make sympathetic emotional fat bitches cry at a movie theatre for an hour and 25 minutes.
master_shake_05
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Because of course you've seen both and can judge....BiPolarGod said:
Tabris said:
Wow. I think I dislike you and your bratty, sheltered opinions just as much in the OT as on the gaming side. Quite an amazing feat. Even Borys is cool in the OT, fer chrissake.
Anyway, as far as the movie goes, thankfully it will likely be a very minor affair that no one will care about and be forgotten in a few weeks.
julls said:
You say, "which is what this one appears to be." For the millionth time in this thread, I agree. My point is that if a movie is tastefully and respectfully done and helps shed some light on 9/11, or helps you look at the events in a new perspective (again, which WTC doesn't appear to do), what's so wrong about that. And I've heard that United 93 did exactly that. And I was referring to United 93 when I mentioned Universal.
I just don't understand why people say "too soon" to a movie that might have something relevant or illuminating to say about our world and then go line up for a truly brain-deadening piece of shit like X3.
Bearillusion
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Is this movie about planes hitting the Trade Center or secret govt missles hitting the Trade Center. I get confused.
The script that's perpetuated everyday has already been drafted by members in our own government. Most people actually believe it. If you're perceptive, you'll realize it's complete bullshit. But thanks for mentioning me again... in yet another thread.
I don't see the reason that this film is being made, much like U93. I guess the movie about 93 can be enjoyable if you take it for what it is, and not a film based upon any sort of accuracy.
However, it looks like this film is just going to talk about what the firefighters experienced. So, as long as they don't present the story as a piece of fiction like the other film, it may turn out pretty well. I have my reservations, though, given the dialogue. It's ridiculously cliche.
Ollie Pooch
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Mifune said:
well naturally i assumed you were talking about this movie when you mentioned Universal !
MrPing1000
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giant policemen ftw
Pellham said:
The over focus on a large 'flashy' one off tragedy like 9/11 is something of human nature. Yet, it's not a good part of human nature.
Because of that focus, that attention, far more effort and resources have been poured into semi-related things, too much shit has been allowed to go through because of it, all the while, there are other things in America that are taking far more american lives per annum, ranging from poverty, to cancer of whatever, to gun-violence to traffic related deaths.
The real tragedy of 9/11 *is* the misappropriation of resources, which in turn has undoubtedly, if somewhat silently resulted in more tragedies... knocking whatever delicate balance of resources and problems America has had firmly out of balance and allowing an errosion of values and freedoms and even overall sanity.
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I'll watch it, I watched united 93 and enjoyed it, so I'll watch this as well.
Outcast2004
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Suburban Cowboy said:
Would you prefer this to be a comedy or a musical? Would THAT make you happy?
All things considered, I STILL think it's too soon to do a movie like this. I find it repulsive that Hollywood views this as a ripe opportunity to cash in on emotion. ESPECIALLY by Oliver Stone of all people.
Snah said:
It just never ****ing ends with you, does it? How does it feel to live your life in constant paranoia and overcomplications?
If you are so sure of your fairy tale tha you and your little tin-hat circle jerkers have weaved together, then present your case to someone and make a change. Stop wasting your time trying to preach your insanity to the forum masses.
worldrunover
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Tabris said:
It's not just national pride... you have to understand in 2001 there was no war going on. There wasn't even much international conflict. America was caught up in things like Gary Condit and that 12 year old little leaguer who was actually 16. People were going about their daily lives when all of a sudden thousands of people were dead, unprovoked.
But if it is national pride, let's say you're walking down the streets of Toronto, minding your own business. Canada is not involved with any real conflict right now. All of a sudden, a missile filled with 200 of your countrymen flies into the CN tower, killing thousands more and cracking the thing to the ground.
I highly doubt you'd call such an act "overrated."
As for this movie, I have no plans to see it, it looks like Hollywood fluff. I didn't see United 93 either, but I heard that was respectfully done and emotionally charged, something I don't know that we'll be able to say about this film.
Guileless
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I don't understand why people are so pissed about United 93 (and to a lesser extent this Stone film which I don't know much about). How many books have there been about 9/11? None of those authors were working for free. I didn't see United 93, but by all accounts it was a straight docudrama without any big stars or Hollywood schmaltz. What's the difference between charging admission to see that and charging for a book about what happened?
The unfortunate thing is that today, few people read any books at all beyond the occasional Grisham/King/DaVinci du jour. Film and TV are the principal ways our culture comments on itself. I really don't understand the indignation.
The unfortunate thing is that today, few people read any books at all beyond the occasional Grisham/King/DaVinci du jour. Film and TV are the principal ways our culture comments on itself. I really don't understand the indignation.
BigGreenMat
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Zaptruder said:
Do you really think the focus on 9/11 had to do with the lives lost? Really? The number of dead was rather trivial at the end of things, BUT the damage to the American economic infrastructure was FAR greater. Besides the fact that probably the largest single point of American business was demolished. Flights got shut down for days stranding people who needed to get places to be a working part of the economy. Large important events were canceled. The fear invoked in the cowardly had long lasting effect to the point that even small potential threats cause downward blips show you the effect that 9/11 had. Trust me Bush might say all this crap about deaths, but the government policies are far more shaped around power and money. Lives are currency and 2000 is small change.
BigGreenMat said:
That's along the lines of what I'm trying to say.
These side effects come from the fear that arises out of the lives lost. It's a huge number in one hit, but the amount of attention it grasped, was disproportionate to the level of the tragedy. Even if the tragedy is a huge one, that it was able to grab so much attention and as a result so many resources, allowed a myriad of less visible negative side effects that outweighed the initial effect or impact.
Just got back from seeing this movie. Don't have much time now, but I really enjoyed the movie - cage was excellent - but I don't know about it being better than Flight 93. The movie worked hard to get people to cry though, and quite a few people were crying as they left.
At the very least, it'll change how a lot of people view what happened on the ground during the rescue attempts. The use of sound was very effective in making you feel like the tension in the building and in the people. Go see and support the Stone party.
At the very least, it'll change how a lot of people view what happened on the ground during the rescue attempts. The use of sound was very effective in making you feel like the tension in the building and in the people. Go see and support the Stone party.
Something about revisiting this event so soon just doesn't sit right with me. I don't want to see a 9.11 picture. I'm sure in future years young people who don't remember the event will see a meaningful and effective world trade center film, but the feelings are still very there and on the surface for the reaching. It doesn't need to be pulled back out of the depths of our concious again in the form of a film. At least for myself.
J2 Cool said:
It took about 10 minutes into the film before things flew back 5 years to how I felt that morning. ****ing terrorists, I muttered. Not to sound cheesy, but the movie is more about the good that people did during this time, how people survived (and died), rather than what the terrorists did. Pretty much, the movie says "plane flew into the tower, but then what happened?"
blackadde said:i have this crazy feeling that the cn tower can't hold thousands of people.
Maybe if the top fell off and hit the skydo-- er, rogers centre (I'm still WTFing at that)... but even then, there's never more than 500 people at a jays game... and I mean, it could topple the other way and hit the ACC, but even then... no loss there.
It's getting good reviews at rotten tomatoes, and its not the internet geek reviewers and their small specialty sites skewing the average either. The cream of the crop reviewers actually like it more than the rest. I'll wait for Ebert's review.
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/world_trade_center/
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/world_trade_center/
Son of Godzilla
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I'm seeing this tomorrow night. My boy Cage is gawhnna saiyvuh sum lievs! This movie will be awesome and you all will eat your words.
I had no problem with the United 93 movies.
But this is ****ing ridiculous. I hope this movie bombs. Cage looks like a douche with his little dirt-on-the-lip mustache, and I love his acting, but he's terrible at accents. I use my VIP rental thinger on this shitheap after it comes out though.
But this is ****ing ridiculous. I hope this movie bombs. Cage looks like a douche with his little dirt-on-the-lip mustache, and I love his acting, but he's terrible at accents. I use my VIP rental thinger on this shitheap after it comes out though.
keeblerdrow
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I'm still waiting for The World Trade Center: The Tragedy: The Musical!
Liza Minnelli as the south tower ftw.
Liza Minnelli as the south tower ftw.
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