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Worst member of any superhero team?
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Manmademan
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ah, another comics thread! Shame I have to come in and....end it for you.
The WORST member of a superteam? This dude.
Carlton Lafroyge, "Hindsight Lad." What are his powers? well, he's essentially this dude from south park, only created about a decade or so earlier
It's not even a power. All he does is tell you what he thinks you should have done, after the fact. He's not a strategic genius, not a super programmer, he's just IRRITATING.
Why is he a member of a superteam you ask? STORY TIME!
This guy happened to share an apartment building with New Warriors member Speedball. Discovers Speedball's secret identity and basically blackmails his way onto the team, being a serious liability for a few dozen issues until he matures a bit, gets a better costume, and ends up being "team analyst" or some such nonsense. Occasionally he has a good idea but for the most part he's dead weight.
BUT WAIT, there's more!
Who remembers Civil War? Captain America vs. Iron Man? Spidey getting swank new duds? Getting a sequel soon and kinda/sorta a movie? Of course you do! Civil War started when the New Warriors (who had long since kicked lafroyge to the curb) accidentally managed to get 600 people including a school full of kids blown up by fighting this guy.
not their most brilliant moment- most of them on the scene that day ended up dead, with the exception of speedball, who literally got knocked into another state and ended up unhinged for years.
Lafroyge sees this on the news, freaks the fuck out and sets up a website that not only exposes the secret identities of everyone ever associated with the team (reserve members, former members, etc) but incites the public to hunt them down and murder them.
Pretty sure this dude takes the "worst ever" trophy.
The WORST member of a superteam? This dude.
Carlton Lafroyge, "Hindsight Lad." What are his powers? well, he's essentially this dude from south park, only created about a decade or so earlier
It's not even a power. All he does is tell you what he thinks you should have done, after the fact. He's not a strategic genius, not a super programmer, he's just IRRITATING.
Why is he a member of a superteam you ask? STORY TIME!
This guy happened to share an apartment building with New Warriors member Speedball. Discovers Speedball's secret identity and basically blackmails his way onto the team, being a serious liability for a few dozen issues until he matures a bit, gets a better costume, and ends up being "team analyst" or some such nonsense. Occasionally he has a good idea but for the most part he's dead weight.
BUT WAIT, there's more!
Who remembers Civil War? Captain America vs. Iron Man? Spidey getting swank new duds? Getting a sequel soon and kinda/sorta a movie? Of course you do! Civil War started when the New Warriors (who had long since kicked lafroyge to the curb) accidentally managed to get 600 people including a school full of kids blown up by fighting this guy.
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not their most brilliant moment- most of them on the scene that day ended up dead, with the exception of speedball, who literally got knocked into another state and ended up unhinged for years.
Lafroyge sees this on the news, freaks the fuck out and sets up a website that not only exposes the secret identities of everyone ever associated with the team (reserve members, former members, etc) but incites the public to hunt them down and murder them.
Pretty sure this dude takes the "worst ever" trophy.
When you have to word it right, the kid is not that bright, and an asshole. It causes more problems than it fixed.
Manmademan
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you'd be surprised. Marvel had one of those.
Can have anything he wishes for...within a range of about 15 feet. Didn't think to wish to make himself super durable, dies horribly in five issues.
you'd be surprised. Marvel had one of those.
Can have anything he wishes for...within a range of about 15 feet. Didn't think to wish to make himself super durable, dies horribly in five issues.
Word, dumbest death ever. All he had to do is think he was totally invulnerable and boom he would have been as long as he had the right on.
That boy can have you mauled by bears on a whim.
evil solrac v3.0
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No fair counting an entire team if we go that route we have like 40 permutations of "Justice" Justice to go through
how you comparing JLE to GLA? Captain Atom may have been an ass at times but he got the job done. and they had a solid line-up.
Defense Force!
Captain Boomerang was *awesome* in the original Suicide Squad run. He was manipulative and ruthlessly self-serving.
Guardian is Jack Kirby and Joe Simon copying themselves at another publisher. So, fair cop, but at least they are stealing from themselves.
Anyway, the OP choice is a decent one, but there's no lack of morts in comics. I'm going to say Elongated Man in the original JLA run. I like the character, but his schtick is being a detective, and *bam* there's Batman already on the team. All he really got to do was stretch around crown scenes.
Atom, Aquaman and Elongated Man discuss this thread...
Dibny was always the better detective. him and Detective Chimp. Batman is third.
Atom is a genius and has shrunk to other dimensions and Aquaman is the king of Atlantis.
in Morrison's JLA, Stewart made the blueprints and Kyle and Superman adnFlash did the building. Batman farted in the corner somewhere.
Batman can take down a Green Lantern at least:
Gardner took his ring off before that....
You do see crimson fox there right?
Razgriz-Specter
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He took Sinestro out with a Batarang once.Batman can take down a Green Lantern at least:
timetokill
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Honestly, what is Jubilee's superpower? I've only seen the cartoons, so from my understanding she's like Gandalf, if all Gandalf could do was make the fireworks from the first film.
Basically to shoot exploding plasma.
In case people don't know, that's Invisible boy who can only stay invisible when no one is looking at him.
He's from the Mystery Men movie.
Batman can take down a Green Lantern at least:
ONE PUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNCCCCCCCCCHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
i always liked her attitude or whatever but in order to make her interesting they had to turn her into a shitty vampire and get her to hang out with x-23 in the comics
Manmademan
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detonates matter on a molecular level. potentially extremely powerful, but subconciously blocks herself from using her ability for anything more than superficial "fireworks" due to some kind of trauma.
her original powers have been gone forever though, who knows if we'll ever see them again.
But now she throws trains at people
Manmademan
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The correct answer is Section 8's Jean de Baton-Baton.
From Wikipiedia:
Jean de Baton-Baton: A bizarrely gaunt walking French caricature who defeats enemies with "the power of Frenchness," as expressed by savage beatings with a baguette and occasionally blinding others with rings of garlic and onions.
As opposed to the greatest hero ever, Bueno Excellente.
From Wikipedia:
Bueno Excellente: An obese, sweaty, and bald Latino in an overcoat who "defeats evil with the power of perversion." Generally, the only things he says are "Bueno" or "Excellente", often preceded by a creepy chuckle.
From Wikipiedia:
Jean de Baton-Baton: A bizarrely gaunt walking French caricature who defeats enemies with "the power of Frenchness," as expressed by savage beatings with a baguette and occasionally blinding others with rings of garlic and onions.
As opposed to the greatest hero ever, Bueno Excellente.
From Wikipedia:
Bueno Excellente: An obese, sweaty, and bald Latino in an overcoat who "defeats evil with the power of perversion." Generally, the only things he says are "Bueno" or "Excellente", often preceded by a creepy chuckle.
Ignatz Mouse
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I actually buy Atom and Aquaman, that's their own dialog. But Elongated Man isn't necessarily a better detective than Batman, and certainly not in the JLA book itself.
Osukaa
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Skin in Generation X
LOL Looks like ET grew up and stayed grey/white..
Parallax
best seen in the classic "Shadow of the Beast"
What book did that civil war shit happen in? God damn im glad i didnt read that shit
timetokill
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... huh. Okay. Thanks for the info.
davidwhangchoi
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DC justice league and friends, the girl from the wonder twins
"Wonder Twin Powers Activate!"
"Wonder Twin Powers Activate!"
BKatastrophe
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Because they're both really fucking good at what they do. Like, Batman is almost always universally accepted as a part of any JL team (a group that outclasses him on effectively every level EXCEPT being a forensic expert and even then that's only the core members), but those two are questioned? Especially when the Avengers (obviously we're specifically talking MCU Avengers) have a way smaller collective power gap than any core JL team.
Unless you're referring to Hawkguy, in which case apparently he's the best ever.
I still miss Clint. Especially Ronin Clint (I really should read more Dark Reign stuff)
Oh Cyclops...what did they do to you?
It's funny, because he pretty much is the worst even looking at just that era's team: Storm is a better thief, and Jubilee has a better energy explosion power. Scott is a better marksman, and literally almost all of them (save for Jubilee and Jean Grey) are better than him at hand-to-hand combat. And everyone already falls in love with Rogue, Storm, and Jean.
Damn right.
He really is the most useless one.
DonasaurusRex
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Gambit can hold his own against people in fighting he was trained by the thief and assasins guild. I dont know if storm is the better thief she had to rely on stealing, shes not an actual professional thief.
cyclops isn't a marksman he can look at anything a shoot it, he has mastered the size, duration and angles of his abilities but he's not aiming a separate weapon let alone throwing projectiles he has OPTIC blasts. Far more dangerous than some separate weapon.
These days Jubilee is physically more durable and capable than remy but her ability to shoot plasma is nothing like his ability to charge anyting and blow it up with kinetic energy.
The xmen have a stable of fighters some of that is because of wolverine or cable or being government trained in Xfactor , and the rest come from the environment. Either way i can think of a long list of xmen that cant out spar Remy on their best day. None of them can get longshots broken power having ass either.
The redundancy of skills and abilities don't matter, the xmen allways train so they can adapt to new situations as ONE team , and there are multiple groups hence the blue team and the gold team , new mutants etc etc.
Well the xmen used to be that way at least.
Frozenprince
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Useful at getting everybody killed by Black Lanterns.
Wasn't Liefeld writing the last run before they got cancelled?
Superman is smarter than Batman.
You don't see it that often because he's usually too busy tanking the dudes who would one-shot Bruce so the Bat can have time to figure shit out.
Elfforkusu
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peanutbutterlatte
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Captain America is far far from the borderline lol.
Batman is in the JL because they need that human element. Superman is an Alien, WW is a God, Batman shows what humanity can do.
Also, Charles Xavier. Dude is the worst. Hes essentially a crazy old man at this point, martyred after his death by characters who forgot how fucking awful he was as a human being.
Shit, at least Magneto is flexible enough to be what the times see him as. Charles Xaviervis a jerk, and a rubbish telepath.
Also, Charles Xavier. Dude is the worst. Hes essentially a crazy old man at this point, martyred after his death by characters who forgot how fucking awful he was as a human being.
Shit, at least Magneto is flexible enough to be what the times see him as. Charles Xaviervis a jerk, and a rubbish telepath.
Superman is more human than Batman
Vital Tundra
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Does Cyclops count? Not because he has a bad power. He's just an asshole.
DonasaurusRex
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...you can't get martyred after your death, its being killed by someone else that is the act of being martyred for your *insert reason* . So Charles dies because he was trying to stop the Phoneix that like clockwork goes nuts and kills everything including planets. He tried to stop Cyclops from being the very thing Trask, and the Purifiers, etc etc want mutants to be so they can hunt them down.
BKatastrophe
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My point is that Gambit doesn't bring anything to the table.
DonasaurusRex
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he's one of the best infiltrators they have, wolverine, psylocke, gambit, and Kitty. It doesn't matter the xmen are a team that knows how to work together on the fly. Anyone who trains with them can bring something to the table thats the point of the book.
Manmademan
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it went on across a lot of books for a long ass time. The "Stamford incident" where Nitro killed 600 people was Civil War #1 in 2006.
Not sure when Lafroyge sold everyone out, some civil war tie in somewhere I'm sure.
BKatastrophe
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I like how, on a list of stealthy X-Men, you left out Nighcrawler, whose powers are literally stealth and teleportation. And Fantomex, whose power is apparently just being the best. Wolfsbane, Domino...
Gambit is low on the list
DonasaurusRex
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Nightcrawler is good but his power is not stealth, its teleportation and insane agility, im sure he could be a good infiltrator but the smell that comes from it definitely will definitely tip someone to his prescence he's mobile, not an assasin/thief, and doesn't need to be.
domino is a marksmen/combat fighter with probability altering powers so she could be im sure but shes a merc like Deadpool, and on xforce, wolfsbane is a werewolf that has never been on the Xmen actually. Just Excalibur, Xfactor, and xforce .
Manmademan
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people forget "Forget-me-not" was an Xman
But Vanisher was on the Stacy X squad
Nightcrawler's fuzz is natural camo in the dark.
He has weak mind control and telepathy.
He's more like underutilized than actually terrible.
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