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Worst Movie Line of All Time

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yankeehater said:
Han Solo in A New Hope brags that the Falcon made the Kessel Run in "less than twelve parsecs" This line still drives me nuts. Every time I watch the movie I am amazed that this made it in.
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I figured this one out on Han's behalf. Let's say the Kessel run is, as the crow flies, 10 parsecs, but asteroids, imperial patrols and other debris mean that tortuous circumnavigation is required, even for Hyperspace safety, such that a typical pilot might take a 20 parsec route. then shortening that distance would require a fast maneuvering ship AND a brave cool captain.
Solo redeemed.
 
BocoDragon said:
I'm not sure why these are objectively bad. So Anakin is like an evil philosopher stating the relativity of his new views. It ain't a great line, but I don't see how it's bad. You'd have to explain to a lot of people how it's bad.... and it's kind of like what they say about a joke "if you have to explain it, it's not funny...."
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Not really, some people can only laugh if its a fart gag.


One reason the line is so bad is because of how inhuman it is to express yourself and your motivations so bluntly,
It would like a WW2 film where Hitler says "you know I really REALLY do not like Jews "
 
OuterWorldVoice said:
I figured this one out on Han's behalf. Let's say the Kessel run is, as the crow flies, 10 parsecs, but asteroids, imperial patrols and other debris mean that tortuous circumnavigation is required, even for Hyperspace safety, such that a typical pilot might take a 20 parsec route. then shortening that distance would require a fast maneuvering ship AND a brave cool captain.
Solo redeemed.
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Yeah I remember reading on TV Tropes something like this gets mentioned in the expanded universe, except its black holes and you have to swing between them or something. Man I feel like a nerd remembering that.
 
B_Rik_Schitthaus said:
Not really, some people can only laugh if its a fart gag.


One reason the line is so bad is because of how inhuman it is to express yourself and your motivations so bluntly,
It would like a WW2 film where Hitler says "you know I really REALLY do not like Jews "
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But Star Wars is an intentionally retro space opera where I have no problem believing that people would deliver their motivations in a blunt, overwrought line. With this type of staged storytelling, a plot point just doesn't happen unless the hero or villain states it outright.

I feel that 50% of the things people don't like about Star Wars can be summed up as the audience not understanding (or not caring) how intentionally stylized to childrens 1930s "Buck Rogers" style serials it is trying to be.
And the other 50% is because yeah, George Lucas can't write.

Seems like most people take Star Wars at face value as a serious sci fi epic (that is cursed by bad writing), when it is not that. It is a cheesy, stylized retro-adventure (that is cursed by bad writing).

I find that with this viewpoint, half the lines I agree are dumb, while half of them I think.... George Lucas is writing this way to appeal to a retro-fetish that few in his vast audience will understand (and it's not like it's sophisticated anyway).

projekt84 said:
You don't have to explain the absolutes line.
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Because it's a logical fallacy or something? Some people would actually say things like that "The Taliban are evil bastards who only think in black and white".

Maybe we should think better of the hero-philosopher Obi Wan for saying something like that... but that line isn't obviously funny, and it isn't obviously fallacious. It's debatably fallacious. Not what I'd call a worst line of all time....
 
Most of the lines in OT SW while cheesy on paper, sound fine, largely due to much better delivery. The droll shitty acting in the prequels just made the dialogue so much worse, and well Lucas writing it all instead of having actual screen writers like the OT.
 
BattleMonkey said:
Most of the lines in OT SW while cheesy on paper, sound fine, largely due to much better delivery. The droll shitty acting in the prequels just made the dialogue so much worse, and well Lucas writing it all instead of having actual screen writers like the OT.
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Yeah definitely. The OT development process refined the retro lines into something greater, especially when voiced by the actors.

I think George Lucas has always written "homage to childish retro sci-fi", and to his surprise, through the acting in the OT, it was transformed into "This is the latest incarnation of Joseph Campbell's theory of timeless mythology!"

Thanks to the film-making process in the PT, we can now see that Star Wars has always been nothing more that a late-20th century Buck Rogers homage with cutting edge technology.... and while that's significantly less grand than "modern day mythology", at least we should understand this original intention when we watch the films. It does explain away a lot of the cheese (but not all of it).
 
CiSTM said:
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Nobody beats me in the kitchen

Also there is the whole Van Damme speech from street fighter. http://vandammebisonspeech.ytmnd.com/
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:lol :lol
 
yankeehater said:
Han Solo in A New Hope brags that the Falcon made the Kessel Run in "less than twelve parsecs" This line still drives me nuts. Every time I watch the movie I am amazed that this made it in.
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This always made sense to me. If you're a good hyperspace pilot then it means that you're able to cover the maximum real-space distance in the minimum amount of hyper-space distance. To me that line always meant "I made the Kessel run traversing only 12 parsecs of hyperspace"
 
BocoDragon said:
I'm not sure why these are objectively bad. So Anakin is like an evil philosopher stating the relativity of his new views. It ain't a great line, but I don't see how it's bad. You'd have to explain to a lot of people how it's bad.... and it's kind of like what they say about a joke "if you have to explain it, it's not funny...."
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Well saying only siths deal in absolutes is an absolute itself. So is Obi Wan a sith?
 
Rahxephon91 said:
Well saying only siths deal in absolutes is an absolute itself. So is Obi Wan a sith?
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I can say "people who divide other people into good and evil.... are the most evil" and it's not a logically inconsistent thing to say.

You might call Obi Wan a hypocrite, but once he's had a chance to calm down, he could probably elaborate on his sentence "[in my experience] only a Sith deals in absolutes". It's not like he's making some water-tight moral argument to be parsed by logic... it's something he's shouting at his former friend in the heat of battle. "Absolutism = bad guy thinking, mmkay?".

In any case, it doesn't strike me as "worst line ever". It strikes me as a mediocre line that people who are in the game of Star Wars nitpicking (a lot of people by the time of Ep III) would latch onto as a pseudo-philosophical logical fallacy... a kind of Phoenix Wright-style "objection!!"... only if you debate it for awhile, you find there's little objectively wrong about the statement. It's mostly just a lame line. 90% of the rest of Star Wars is worse.
 
"Obi-Wan is holding me back!"
"You turned her against ME!?"
"I have the High ground!"

Motherfuck I want to kill someone who wrote this awful ass screenplay.
 
RedShift said:
Yeah I remember reading on TV Tropes something like this gets mentioned in the expanded universe, except its black holes and you have to swing between them or something. Man I feel like a nerd remembering that.
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This site has a good breakdown of that, and why it doesnt fix the original line.
 
BocoDragon said:
I can say "people who divide other people into good and evil.... are the most evil" and it's not a logically inconsistent thing to say.
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This is correct. However, "Only a Sith deals in absolutes" is a logically inconsistent thing to say if you are not a Sith. Doesn't make it the worst line ever or anything, though, I agree there.
 
There's a line that makes the Obi-Wan's "Only a Sith deals in absolutes" line seem all the more damning.

After Anakin says the "from my point of view" line Obi-Wan proceeds to say "Well, then, you are lost." That sounds pretty absolute to me.
 
BocoDragon said:
I can say "people who divide other people into good and evil.... are the most evil" and it's not a logically inconsistent thing to say.

You might call Obi Wan a hypocrite, but once he's had a chance to calm down, he could probably elaborate on his sentence "[in my experience] only a Sith deals in absolutes". It's not like he's making some water-tight moral argument to be parsed by logic... it's something he's shouting at his former friend in the heat of battle. "Absolutism = bad guy thinking, mmkay?".
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All people who wish death on others should be killed.
 
Taken from Cloverfield:

Hud: Sure. Maybe it erupted from an ocean trench, you know? Or a crevasse. Crevice. It's just a theory. I mean, for all we know, it's from another planet and it flew here.
Marlena Diamond: Like Superman?
Hud: Yeah, exactly like... Wait. You know who Superman is?
Marlena Diamond: Oh, my God. You know who Superman is?
Hud: Okay, I'm not...
Marlena Diamond: [sarcastically] I'm, like, feeling something. Are you aware of Garfield.
 
Nisa65 said:
"What killed the dinosaurs? The ice age!" is the line from Batman & Robin that sticks out the most for me. The film in general is one of the best unintentional comedies of all time thanks to Arnie's awful one liners.
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You couldn't possibly be more wrong, sir. If we had a Greatest Movie Lines thread, it'd be overtaken by Arnie's one liners.
 
Ogs said:
F&F Tokyo Drift -

"If you aint outta control, you aint IN control"

Was in the trailer, but not the film as far as i can remember :lol
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YOU NEVER HAD ME, YOU NEVER HAD YOUR CAR
 
Korey said:
Here's another from Episode 3:

Anakin: You're so...beautiful.
Padmé: It's only because I'm so in love.
Anakin: No, it's because I'm so in love with you.
Padmé: So love has blinded you?
Anakin: [laughs] Well, that's not exactly what I meant.
Padmé: But it's probably true.​
wtf????
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:lol
 
The line is not the worst, but the delivery was horrible and is now the reason I don't take Bale seriously as the batman.

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OuterWorldVoice said:
I figured this one out on Han's behalf. Let's say the Kessel run is, as the crow flies, 10 parsecs, but asteroids, imperial patrols and other debris mean that tortuous circumnavigation is required, even for Hyperspace safety, such that a typical pilot might take a 20 parsec route. then shortening that distance would require a fast maneuvering ship AND a brave cool captain.
Solo redeemed.
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This is what my friends and I call a "shoulder-popper," because of how hard you are reaching for it....
 
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