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[KdotIX]

First thing that came to my mind upon seeing the thread title was the planet earth from the Matrix. Before the third Matrix had been conceived.

After the UN launched a nuke on the Machine City it was balls to the wall all out war against machines which looked more menacing as time progressed, unknowing of their capability. The humans scorched the sky of the Earth to cut off the source of power to the machines, but this failed. Prisoners of war were tortured in unconceivable ways and experimented on: pipes and pointy things being shoved into your body whilst you're conscious. As a result of this, the machines found out that they could use humans as batteries.

When the war was lost the machines demanded that humans "hand over their flesh" for it was nothing but a mere "relic" and they promised a better world for them to live in.

Now whilst the Matrix 1.0 was an "idyllic" world where everything was perfect, the Matrix 2.0 was the complete opposite, where demons and vampires roamed and the world was pretty much a virtual torture chamber for humans.

Even when people were freed from the Matrix as we saw it in the movies, they still had to live in fear of the machines and eat goopy white sludge all day, who would want that?

 

[Sgt. Kabukiman]

When the war was lost the machines demanded that humans "hand over their flesh" for it was nothing but a mere "relic" and they promised a better world for them to live in.

Humans surrendered to the machines and were put into the matrix willingly? Where was that mentioned? That's really dark.

 

[Vincent Grayson]

"Randland" from Wheel of Time seems like a fucking nightmare, especially as a dude.

There's cool magic, but if you happen to be able to learn it, you're doomed to losing your goddamn mind and probably killing everyone you love. Or the Red Ajah finds you first, and you probably kill yourself after being cut off from The Source.

And even without that, you're living in pretty standard shitty "medieval" conditions in a lot of the world, there's horrible monsters happy to eat you, and if that's not enough, the world is literally coming apart at the seams.

 

[Keasar]

Yeah I'm throwing in my vote with Warhammer 40K as well.

Either you die to the innumerable horrors of the universe including flesh eating aliens from outside the known galaxy. Soul consuming spawn from hell itself. A brutish race of murder rage incarnated. Ancient soulless machines that destroyed the former worlds in a galaxy consuming war long ago before going to sleep and are now waking up again. A absolutely fetishistic, rapetastic race of space elves who can appear out of nowhere, even where you think you're safe, and if you're not lucky and die from them you're bound to be their pain/sex-slave for the rest of your life in the most horrific fashions you cannot imagine. And then so much more.

If you get drafted to the army (and chances are VERY high you will if you live on a world that the Empire has on record) your chances of survival goes to close to zero. You will either die to any of previously mentioned horrors OR possibly get shot in the head by your own for cowardice, or because you forgot to clean your rifle/salute a higher ranked officer/pray to a image of the Emperor you passed/sneezed during a inspection/forgot the 5th Litany of the 2532nd holy text of Imperial Scripture/ate your pizza with knife and fork/didn't pet the kitten/wore ill-matching socks/dropped your rifle during combat or whatever the reason the Commissar of your battalion came up with that morning because he felt like shooting someone in the head for some form of heresy.

Even if you're not drafted, unless you are part of the inner core of planets in the Imperium you will most likely at some point be attacked by any race out there who is out to murderfuck you to death. If you are part of the inner core, you are still under the real risk of being murderfucked in your afterlife after being murderfucked by some secret hiding Chaos cult on the planet.

Even if you flee as a human to what could be considered the "safest" space in the galaxy known as the Tau Empire, you will most likely be brainwashed to follow their religion of "The Greater Good" that has come under scrutiny to hide something far more sinister by the Ethereals, and then castrated. Cause they don't want humans running around multiplying like rabbits.

Everything sucks in the 41st millennium.

Yet it is fucking undeniably awesome!

And remember to be wary of heresy, for it may be everywhere!

 

[Akuun]

In Warhammer 40k, it sounds like almost everything is powered by sacrificing the souls of common people. Need something done? Shovel some people into a furnace or sacrifice them to your respective gods. And that's if you don't die to them yourself.

Berserk would be awful because of all the monster attacks and the world generally becoming more and more fucked up for the common people.

The world of One Punch Man seems to get a different city-leveling monster every day.

Yharnam from Berserk would be awful. Watching either yourself or your loved ones turning into murderous beasts on a regular basis.

 

[LouisaFerre]

Spoilers for SMT 4:

Spoiler

Blasted Tokyo, at least before you guys try and fix things a little bit. The surface air is poison, there are demons all over the place, and the only habitable places are the underground bunkers that survived the nukes that turned the whole place into an irradiated desert.

 

[Chuckie]

Where are all these horrific stories from Warhammer 40K coming from? I thought it was a game with miniatures. Where is all the lore coming from?

And where can I find it because it sounds fucking awesome.

 

[Sephzilla]

Living in the Godzilla universe would actually suck, a ton.

Japan specifically is under constant threat of being annihilated. Godzilla has come over stateside a couple of times too. Other kaiju are pretty much always popping up across the world to level huge population centers. Aliens invade every other month. Military defense is useless against most of these monsters. And if Godzilla himself dies there's a risk of him going into a thermonuclear meltdown so devastating it would literally melt a hole straight down to the center of the Earth and cause the destruction of the entire world.

 

[Keasar]

Where are all these horrific stories from Warhammer 40K coming from? I thought it was a game with miniatures. Where is all the lore coming from?

And where can I find it because it sounds fucking awesome.

Books, Video Games, Board/Card games (sadly most good ones being discontinued after a breakup between Fantasy Flight Games and Games Workshop), Wikis, a movie or two. There is tons of stuff out there for Warhammer 40K outside of the miniature game (which it did start as).

I dabbled once with the miniatures when I was younger but quit due to the cost and effort required to maintain a miniature army. I still am a great fan of the world though which kicks ass in every way.

Praise the Emperor!

 

[PeskyToaster]

the warhammer 40k universe sounds horrible from what i've read on the wiki. even worse than the fantasy warhammer.

 

[LordOfChaos]

I'd say Warhammer 40K for the grimdark, but the galaxy is so populated in that universe there are thousands and thousands of worlds that are totally unaffected by all the grimness, so a character could live there...

Bloodborne is pretty dark, depends on which ending and how far along our protagonist is.

 

[HStallion]

The Cancerverse is probably even worse than the WH 40K universe. Its the universe if the Old Gods have broken through the walls of reality and infected the real world. Its a universe where death had been quite literally killed and results in a universe were nothing ever really dies, nothing ever stops growing or evolving. It results in a universe sized corpse that never really dies and produces all manner of horrors and that doesn't include entities like Cthulhu are basically running amok and actually trying to break into other universes to do the same to them. Oh and you can't die and will most likely just be absorbed into your planet's undying ever growing corpse and turn into something that looks like a mix between HP Lovecraft's nightmares and the alien from John Carpenter's the Thing.

Oh and they even turned Galactus into a gigantic engine of "life".

Charles Xavier was mutated into a giant tumorous brain as well

 

[archreaper93]

The Web/Hyperion.

Completely awesome if you're... rich and in the Web. Allows you access to farcasters, crazy cool worlds, food, etc. Technology itself is awesome - cancer cured, flying vehicles, energy problems seem gone.

If you're poor... stuck onworld, possibly in a slum. Any travel off-world that doesn't cost a fortune will most likely leave your friends/family 5-30 years older than yourself, etc, etc. Theoretically in a constant war/standoff with the Ousters, unsure of what TechnoCore is doing as AI have rebelled.

Flash forward 200 years - religious tyranny, physically at war with Ousters, medical care has regressed, no farcasters for the populace, glass ceiling based on religious affiliation, etc.

Fucking love the books and some things about the world are amazing, but would truly suck unless you're rich/fortunate enough to live on an amazing world like Maui Covenant or be able to afford farcaster travel/a farcaster home.

And that's not even mentioning The Strike.

 

[KdotIX]

Humans surrendered to the machines and were put into the matrix willingly? Where was that mentioned? That's really dark.

The leaders of the remaining nations called a peace summit with the machines at the U.N. headquarters in New York where they presented a formal Instrument of Surrender.

Zero One once again sent a machine ambassador to take the floor at the U.N. summit in New York, not to ask to join humanity, but for their submission to them.

The ambassador then stood at the podium and in a final message to the U.N. delegates present, boldly demanded that if humanity surrendered to the machines, then they shall enjoy a "New World" that awaited them and from which now on shall be their habitat.

That machine ambassador promptly activated a nuke, contained within itself, upon humans signing the peace treaty, killing all the leaders on the human resistance. The machines then began to eradicate the rest of the human resistance and sweeping them up to use them for their biothermal energy whilst keeping their minds enslaved in The Matrix - it was also to ensure that the humans wouldn't mount a counter-attack in the future.

Your flesh is a relic, a mere vessel. Hand over your flesh and a new world awaits you. We demand it.

Dark stuff.

 

[Coriolanus]

That only applies to unfaithful or servants of Chaos. Servants of the Emperor live with him for all eternity.

Imperial propaganda.

Eldar are royally fucked though in any case.

Eldar have it better than most, thanks to spirit stones.
Eldar without spirit stones? yeah, they fucked.

 

[mcz117chief]

Imperial propaganda.

Since GW waves off every inconsistency in 40k as "imperial propaganda" I stopped caring about the whole thing. Every author writes his own vision of the 40k now anyway and all of them suck. Dan Abnett, Gav Thorpe, C.S. Goto, Matt Ward and all the others are a laughing stock for the literary world.

So I'll just say that Jesus will return in the 42st Millennium, resurrect all the faithful Christians as immortal angels and will eradicate all chaos and everything they deem unworthy in the material universe in a manner of seconds. Thus ends the Warhammer 40k universe, every other end is just "imperial propaganda"

edit: yeah, I have a hate boner for 40k if it wasn't obvious enough

 

[Tacitus_]

40k might have those bright spots where there is no war, but when the governing mentality is

Some may question your right to destroy ten billion people. Those who understand realise that you have no right to let them live!

There is no such thing as a plea of innocence in my court. A plea of innocence is guilty of wasting my time. Guilty.

you know you're up shit creek.

Since GW waves off every inconsistency in 40k as "imperial propaganda" I stopped caring about the whole thing. Every author writes his own vision of the 40k now anyway and all of them suck. Dan Abnett, Gav Thorpe, C.S. Goto, Matt Ward and all the others are a laughing stock for the literary world.

You take that back about Abnett! Goto and Ward can burn.

So I'll just say that Jesus will return in the 42st Millennium, resurrect all the faithful Christians as immortal angels and will eradicate all chaos and everything they deem unworthy in the material universe in a manner of seconds. Thus ends the Warhammer 40k universe, every other end is just "imperial propaganda"

edit: yeah, I have a hate boner for 40k if it wasn't obvious enough

Weeellll, there are rumours that some of the Primarchs are returning. Then again, they are built around a warp entity given form by the Emperor, with the knowledge how to do that possibly stolen from the Dark Gods. So they aren't exactly angels. Or rather, they are his angels of death.

 

[Akuun]

Oh, the world of Shadowrun would be awful as well. You're in a technological hellhole where you're probably getting screwed over by superpowerful corporations while you're trying to just survive. Either that or you're an innocent bystander caught in some shootout or war between things that have nothing to do with you.

But then most cyberpunk universes fall into the same category.

 

[mcz117chief]

You take that back about Abnett! Goto and Ward can burn.

Ok I went a bit overboard with him, his is arguably quite readable. Still full of inconsistencies though.

Weeellll, there are rumours that some of the Primarchs are returning. Then again, they are built around a warp entity given form by the Emperor, with the knowledge how to do that possibly stolen from the Dark Gods. So they aren't exactly angels. Or rather, they are his angels of death.

I just hope they will finally end it somehow and soon. 40k right now is so insanely bloated, it is literally reaching critical mass. It won't be long before it reaches the Star Wars Legends level. Good on Disney on pulling the plug on that.

 

[Spuck-uk]

Except for that pretty long time in that dungeon.

And the literal selling of your ass

 

[Spuck-uk]

JoJo's Bizarre Adventures seems pretty bad for any non stand user in a stand town. It's probably not the worst, but having inexplicable things happening for seemingly no reason every Friday doesn't sound fun

Jojos is the worst universe to live in if you're a dog..

 

[BKatastrophe]

Did they ever explain why the bad guys are like fuck this random small city in particular?

It's where Zordon is.

It depends. The unseen npcs barricaded in their home seem to be having a good time. Or maybe they've just gone crazy. Either way, they're laughing it off. They have that going for them at least.

They all either turn into beasts, die, or end up in Iosefka's clinic. There's like, three people you meet that actually survive if you play your cards right.

The Cancerverse is probably even worse than the WH 40K universe. Its the universe if the Old Gods have broken through the walls of reality and infected the real world. Its a universe where death had been quite literally killed and results in a universe were nothing ever really dies, nothing ever stops growing or evolving. It results in a universe sized corpse that never really dies and produces all manner of horrors and that doesn't include entities like Cthulhu are basically running amok and actually trying to break into other universes to do the same to them. Oh and you can't die and will most likely just be absorbed into your planet's undying ever growing corpse and turn into something that looks like a mix between HP Lovecraft's nightmares and the alien from John Carpenter's the Thing.





Oh and they even turned Galactus into a gigantic engine of "life".



Charles Xavier was mutated into a giant tumorous brain as well

All praise the Many-Angled Ones. Remember: it came into being when Mar-Vell made a pact with his cancer to let him live instead of killing him like the main 616.

 

[Razgriz-Specter]

Spoiler

Isn't that only true for Rika? Everyone else ends up in a shitshow a large majority of the time, with it taking Rika hundreds if not thousnads of years or repeated timeloops just trying to find a world where everyone doesn't die horribly. At least in the anime, the worlds continue even when that worlds Rika dies, and I assume it's the same in the original VN

thats true

 

[Amagon]

The more I read this thread, the more I get interested about Warhammer. Shit sounds brutal.

 

[Coriolanus]

yknow
in retrospect
nurglites have it pretty damn good. Sure, they're bloated and disease-ridden, but they enjoy it, and Papa Nurgle is a pretty cool guy.

Since GW waves off every inconsistency in 40k as "imperial propaganda" I stopped caring about the whole thing. Every author writes his own vision of the 40k now anyway and all of them suck. Dan Abnett, Gav Thorpe, C.S. Goto, Matt Ward and all the others are a laughing stock for the literary world.

So I'll just say that Jesus will return in the 42st Millennium, resurrect all the faithful Christians as immortal angels and will eradicate all chaos and everything they deem unworthy in the material universe in a manner of seconds. Thus ends the Warhammer 40k universe, every other end is just "imperial propaganda"

edit: yeah, I have a hate boner for 40k if it wasn't obvious enough

whaddayamean "will return"?
He's already returned.

but really, w40k was always intended to be sci-fi schloky nonsense. No other way to explain orkz. When it tries to take itself seriously is when it suffers the most, as one can see with nearly everything involving ultrasmurfs.

 

[Megabat]

Arkanar (Hard to Be a God)

 

[mcz117chief]

Papa Nurgle is a pretty cool guy

he kills aliens and doesn't afraid of anything

whaddayamean "will return"?
He's already returned.

oooooooooooooooooh shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

but really, w40k was always intended to be sci-fi schloky nonsense. No other way to explain orkz. When it tries to take itself seriously is when it suffers the most, as one can see with nearly everything involving ultrasmurfs.

Truer words were never spoken, at least today they weren't. I totally agree though, people who take 40k lore too seriously get burned the most. I was like that when I was like 15. At that time 40k was my lifeblood and then I realized what a knobhead I was

 

[jstripes]

What is wrong with the people who created Warhammer 40k?

Wow.

 

[DouglasteR]

40k for sure.

You will either die to a alien raid, work yourself to death (either providing the imperium with goods or serving in the Army) and if you are VERY gifted, you can be used as "fuel" to power the lighthouse that is the Astronomican.

Oh, and after death, there is only the warp/chaos/even worse things waiting for you.

Dont dont worry, keep your faith in the emprah, otherwise you can be shot in the head for treason/heresy.

 

[LastGamer84]

whaddayamean "will return"?
He's already returned.

A character who is literally trapped in hell and proceeds to own hell through sheer badassery and willpower.

I knew 40k was awesome, but damn. Reading that makes me want better games for that universe. Someone give Obsidian the license and give us a CRPG for the ages.

 

[Akuun]

What is wrong with the people who created Warhammer 40k?

Wow.

As someone not into Warhammer at all, the lore always struck me as kind of tongue in cheek. Like a 14 year old's idea of hardcore.

It's the same kind of "dumb hardcore" that DOOM 2016's lore embraces.

 

[Tacitus_]

The more I read this thread, the more I get interested about Warhammer. Shit sounds brutal.

It is the 41st Millennium. For more than a hundred centuries The Emperor has sat immobile on the Golden Throne of Earth. He is the Master of Mankind by the will of the gods, and master of a million worlds by the might of his inexhaustible armies. He is a rotting carcass writhing invisibly with power from the Dark Age of Technology. He is the Carrion Lord of the Imperium for whom a thousand souls are sacrificed every day, so that he may never truly die.

Yet even in his deathless state, the Emperor continues his eternal vigilance. Mighty battlefleets cross the daemon-infested miasma of the Warp, the only route between distant stars, their way lit by the Astronomican, the psychic manifestation of the Emperor's will. Vast armies give battle in his name on uncounted worlds. Greatest amongst his soldiers are the Adeptus Astartes, the Space Marines, bio-engineered super-warriors. Their comrades in arms are legion: the Imperial Guard and countless planetary defence forces, the ever vigilant Inquisition and the tech-priests of the Adeptus Mechanicus to name only a few. But for all their multitudes, they are barely enough to hold off the ever-present threat from aliens, heretics, mutants - and worse.

To be a man in such times is to be one amongst untold billions. It is to live in the cruelest and most bloody regime imaginable. These are the tales of those times. Forget the power of technology and science, for so much has been forgotten, never to be re-learned. Forget the promise of progress and understanding, for in the grim dark future there is only war. There is no peace amongst the stars, only an eternity of carnage and slaughter, and the laughter of thirsting gods. note

A character who is literally trapped in hell and proceeds to own hell through sheer badassery and willpower.

I knew 40k was awesome, but damn. Reading that makes me want better games for that universe. Someone give Obsidian the license and give us a CRPG for the ages.

But everyone hates Draigo. There's a common fan theory that the gods of Chaos are just fucking with him and he isn't actually accomplishing shit.

What is wrong with the people who created Warhammer 40k?

Wow.

They lived in the UK in the 80s.

 

[PSqueak]

Realistically?

The real world in Ready Player One, a world so shitty, having access to a virtual reality one is practically a basic need.

 

[Rhomega Beta]

Angel Grove

Even if you never get hurt, every damn week something is attacking again. You just finished building your tool shed in the back yard and a group of putties mess it up. Goldar got big and steeped on your car a week after you finished paying it off.

Just move in in 1999. The monsters don't attack there again after the Zordon Wave.

Honestly it seems like life pretty much sucks in the Star Wars galaxy if you're not one of the major players in the story.

I'm not an expert on the old Expanded Universe, but it seems that no matter where you are on the several thousand year timeline, there's always a war going on.

The Bible. The ending is some apocalyptic shits from the Book of Revelation

But if you're a Christian, that leads up to God's ultimate victory, then it's all sunshine and happiness for 1,000 years, then one last brief war with Satan, then you're good for eternity.

 

[Captain Tuttle]

This for sure.

I can't imagine any world more hellish. I mean, someone correct me if they can think of a worse one because I'm drawing a blank.

It's even worse in the novel...the scene with the pregnant women was nightmare inducing.

Indeed. I couldn't get passed the first 25% of the book

 

[RangerBAD]

When they told me about it, I thought it was connected to Blood+. It's not.
I'm curious.. what other CLAMP worlds? Code Geass? lol

No, they just did the original character designs. It's connected to xxxHolic and the like. An xxxHolic character appears in the Blood C movie. CLAMP was heavily involved in the series unlike Code Geass.

 

[Machine]

The world of the War Against the Chtorr is pretty grim. Over half the human population has been killed by alien viruses and earth is slowly being terraformed by alien plants and animals. The series is currently unfinished but things don't look good at this point.

 

[BigDes]

Since GW waves off every inconsistency in 40k as "imperial propaganda" I stopped caring about the whole thing. Every author writes his own vision of the 40k now anyway and all of them suck. Dan Abnett, Gav Thorpe, C.S. Goto, Matt Ward and all the others are a laughing stock for the literary world.

So I'll just say that Jesus will return in the 42st Millennium, resurrect all the faithful Christians as immortal angels and will eradicate all chaos and everything they deem unworthy in the material universe in a manner of seconds. Thus ends the Warhammer 40k universe, every other end is just "imperial propaganda"

edit: yeah, I have a hate boner for 40k if it wasn't obvious enough

How is Jesus going to come back when he is strapped to a chair in Tibet?

 

[Keasar]

but really, w40k was always intended to be sci-fi schloky nonsense. No other way to explain orkz. When it tries to take itself seriously is when it suffers the most, as one can see with nearly everything involving ultrasmurfs.

I love in the opening of If the Emperor Had a Text-to-Speech Device episode 21, one of the Ultrasmurfs is starting to question how on Terras holy tits they are constantly successful with everything they do in increasingly stupid ways.

 

[BigDes]

Keeping with the Games Workshop in the eighties, one of the more famous story campaigns that they did, the Second War for Armageddon was a reaction to Tory policy toward the industrial north in the 1980s

In the second war for Armageddon a bunch of right wing skin head football hooligans (the Orks) led my Margaret Thatcher ( Ghazghull Mag Uruk Thraka) descend upon an industrial planet and proceed to beat the shit out of it.

They are eventually defeated by the socialism of the Imperial Guard and then the metaphor gets a bit blurry cause the Black Templars also turn up and decide cathedrals are more important than people

 

[Coriolanus]

I love in the opening of If the Emperor Had a Text-to-Speech Device episode 21, one of the Ultrasmurfs is starting to question how on Terras holy tits they are constantly successful with everything they do in increasingly stupid ways.

oh gods, i didn't know that thing existed. laughing so goddamn hard at cunto shitarius and guest appearance.

 

[Keasar]

oh gods, i didn't know that thing existed. laughing so goddamn hard at cunto shitarius and guest appearance.

I recommend watching from the start, it's a great show that pretty much goes through what the Emperor would think of the current situation of the Imperium if he had a chance to talk.

Hint: He is not satisfied.