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Would Anyone Else Be Furious If Zelda:BotW Is Graphically Identical on Wii U & NX?
- Thread starter Jasper
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I just got here. Cut me some slack lol.
MindGamingMantis
Banned
The game already looks washed out as fuck. I'd be pretty disappointed.
You're correct, it does look washed out.
I genuinely am shocked at all the people saying "ABSOLUTELY NOT!! THERE'S NO NEED TO IMPROVE THE GRAPHICS!!! THE GAME LOOKS AMAZING AS IT IS!!!
Seriously?
The frame rate is fucking horrible.
The pop in is distracting as fuck.
I have seen some shockingly bad textures that look like it belongs on a PS2 game.
Where the fuck is the anti aliasing in this game?
IF the NX hardware is superior to the Wii U (allowing Nintendo to indeed improve frame rate/textures/resolution/AA/etc), yet Nintendo make a conscious decision not to improve any of these problems...that to me is a sign of no respect for Nintendo fans (particularly if Nintendo has the audacity to tout a graphically Wii U/NX identical version of this game as the flagship launch title for the NX).
I genuinely am shocked at all the people saying "ABSOLUTELY NOT!! THERE'S NO NEED TO IMPROVE THE GRAPHICS!!! THE GAME LOOKS AMAZING AS IT IS!!!
Seriously?
The frame rate is fucking horrible.
The pop in is distracting as fuck.
I have seen some shockingly bad textures that look like it belongs on a PS2 game.
Where the fuck is the anti aliasing in this game?
IF the NX hardware is superior to the Wii U (allowing Nintendo to indeed improve frame rate/textures/resolution/AA/etc), yet Nintendo make a conscious decision not to improve any of these problems...that to me is a sign of no respect for Nintendo fans (particularly if Nintendo has the audacity to tout a graphically Wii U/NX identical version of this game as the flagship launch title for the NX).
Phreakuency
Banned
Pretty much how I feel yet saying so just upsets everyone who was hoping this game would be some sort of gift from the gaming gods.
I also said during the original reveal on these boards that id see everyone in a year or two to say I told you when o said the real game wouldn't match that first clip and with the terrible textures, draw in, empty nothingness and frame rate problems I was absolutely correct.
OrbitalBeard
Member
Pat yourself on the back, champ.
FTFY
Omega Kirby
Member
Edit: Know what, not even gonna bother
I don't expect the NX to be a 50% OC'ed Wii U, though.
Posts like this are hilarious. Acting like they are some soothsayer because a game shown for the first time looks different to the way it looks 18 months later. Whoop-de-doo.
Latching onto any minor difference and claiming it as justification for every single aspect of their prediction.
If the gap between the NX and the Wii U is larger than the gap between the Wii and GC, it would be nice for BotW to take advantage of the better hardware. Emphasis on 'if', I don't have a clue what the NX will be like, but I don't expect something barely different from Wii U specs.
All of that plus AA and AF would be fantastic. I'm not sure what to expect, but one would think that if the NX is a substantially more powerful system then they should be able to do all of this given the amount of time they've had to work on the NX version. This is definitely game that is being handicapped by the WiiU.
Definitely the minimum acceptable. Anything less would be pathetic. Again pending NX hardware though.
Fair point, but as other have mentioned that was only acceptable in the sense that the Wii was basically a Gamecube. If the NX is basically a WiiU, that's a whole other can of worms to be irritated about.
McBradders
NeoGAF: my new HOME
The use of the word 'loyalty' in the OP is quite unsettling.
Bruno_Arrais85
Member
This statement gives me hope that the NX version will be better:
http://zeldauniverse.net/2016/06/17...breath-of-the-wild-is-coming-to-nx-and-wii-u/
http://zeldauniverse.net/2016/06/17...breath-of-the-wild-is-coming-to-nx-and-wii-u/
I can't say I'd really care at all unless they made some claim that it would be better and that didn't end up being the case. I'll be buying the NX because outside of some exceptions I tend to like the games Nintendo develops and that is the system I will need to get them in the future. If BotW ends up with better graphics or more stable framerate that will just be a bonus.
I don't think we'll live long enough to see a Zelda game looking as good as Horizon Zero Dawn
no but seriously, where's that gif from? :O
tearsintherain
Member
They should sell it with a $40 high rez textures DLC, a $10 2x MSAA DLC, and a $20 8x MSAA DLC
Professor Beef
Banned
If we end up with another Nintendo gaming system that is severely under-powered when compared to Neo and Scorpio...then what a slap in the face for us Nintendo fans.
And I don't care what crappy gimmick they come up with this time to justify being cheap and releasing inferior hardware.
You would think they would learn their lesson after the Wii U, but who the hell knows with Nintendo!
It seems like they are so desperate to re-create the success of the Wii, and are too clueless to realise that the Wii was a flash in a pan fluke success.
Neo/Scorpio/PSVR/Oculus/HoloLens...this is what people want now. High tech hardware (combined with high tech gimmicks) that blows everyone's socks off.
Nintendo releasing another gaming system with half decade old hardware bundled with another waggle controller or an EyeToy copycat camera or a Fisher Price touchscreen controller....will be the death of Nintendo!
And I don't care what crappy gimmick they come up with this time to justify being cheap and releasing inferior hardware.
You would think they would learn their lesson after the Wii U, but who the hell knows with Nintendo!
It seems like they are so desperate to re-create the success of the Wii, and are too clueless to realise that the Wii was a flash in a pan fluke success.
Neo/Scorpio/PSVR/Oculus/HoloLens...this is what people want now. High tech hardware (combined with high tech gimmicks) that blows everyone's socks off.
Nintendo releasing another gaming system with half decade old hardware bundled with another waggle controller or an EyeToy copycat camera or a Fisher Price touchscreen controller....will be the death of Nintendo!
Dude your fanboy is showing.I just look at games like Horizon Zero on PS4, and think what if Nintendo weren't so damn cheap and we had a Zelda (and other Nintendo franchise games) with graphics like this...
Instead we get this...
Horizon DOES look a lot better graphically but I'm pretty sure even you know this is not a fair comparison.
I just look at games like Horizon Zero on PS4, and think what if Nintendo weren't so damn cheap and we had a Zelda (and other Nintendo franchise games) with graphics like this...
Instead we get this...
Comparing a GIF to the worst screenshot that Nintendo released. Doesn't really hold weight.
OrbitalBeard
Member
If NX is in the same realm as Neo and Scorpio, it's going to flop. Hard.
They should aim for a box at or around the specs of the base PS4... and they probably are.
I am a MASSIVE Nintendo fanboy, but I am really beginning to get annoyed that my favorite franchise of all time (especially considering we only get a new Zelda around every half decade) graphically looks like a joke compared to what's being released on other gaming systems.
And I felt the exact same way with Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword (my gosh...playing SS with those shithouse graphics was a nightmare).
I would actually be OK if the NX had specs comparable to the PS4.
The problem is rumors suggest NX is not even using x86 architecture and not even as powerful as the XB1.
Plus we now have Reggie going on record saying "the NX is not about specs, but all about the games", which is code for yet again another inferior and outdated gaming system.
OrbitalBeard
Member
At or around XB1 would also be fine.
I still can't play that game purely because of the art style and graphics. Absolutely atrocious.
This game looks nowhere near as bad, though. I guess my expectations for Zelda/Nintendo graphics though are really low.
You'd think that if they knew Zelda would be an NX title they would have tried making it look next-gen.
I actually agree with your statements, but your examples are extremely poor. You should have picked flattering pics or gifs from the two games. Not the absolute worst acreenshot out there.
I just look at games like Horizon Zero on PS4, and think what if Nintendo weren't so damn cheap and we had a Zelda (and other Nintendo franchise games) with graphics like this...
Instead we get this...
Dude, you could at least compare it with this:
You would still had a good argument, sinze Horizon looks better because of the better hardware (Duh), but your cynicism took the best of you and made your argument something we can't take seriously.
Oh and Zelda makes up for graphical power with character design and art style.
robertsan21
Member
Nintendo is smart, they choose some cartoony cel shading graphics due to the limitations of the hardwear.
This type of grapics looks very good IMO, it also stays true to the series overall graphics. I think it fits Zelda perfectly and i cant wait to play this. Do i want it to look like horizon zero dawn, hell no!
What i want from new hardwear is more stuff on screen, foliage, enemies, dust and debris. More awesome effects to create an even more atmospheric game. Polish the AA and make the game less blurry, better textures too. This is what I feel is lacking a bit in this game. It's good but it's not super awesome good. NX must improve on the game or I won't buy the NX
This type of grapics looks very good IMO, it also stays true to the series overall graphics. I think it fits Zelda perfectly and i cant wait to play this. Do i want it to look like horizon zero dawn, hell no!
What i want from new hardwear is more stuff on screen, foliage, enemies, dust and debris. More awesome effects to create an even more atmospheric game. Polish the AA and make the game less blurry, better textures too. This is what I feel is lacking a bit in this game. It's good but it's not super awesome good. NX must improve on the game or I won't buy the NX
Is the art style really better than Horizon's?
riskybusinesstomcruise
Member
Regardless of whether or not the NX version is graphically superior or not (I hope it is) I've been thinking about how well this game will age. This graphical style has the potential to age as well as the Wind Waker IMO. The game looks great already but will scale fantastically whether via NX or an emulator 10 years down the line.
Its subjective. I love the anime/ghibli style, as you can tell from my avatar, so to me it does.
But I think Horizon looks beautiful too, in its own style.
Bruno_Arrais85
Member
I think that Nintendo finally found the best art style for the Zelda franchise with BotW. Even with a powerful hardware, the Cel Shading/Anime look is the one to pick.
Thank you, forgot to include AA.
Jawbreaker
Member
It would be pretty disappointing, yeah. I really want to enjoy this game without some of the more glaring graphical issues.
