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WoW: The Burning Crusade (Trailer and Info)

So what have we got on a release date here? Knowing Blizzard I'm guessing November '06. Any real info?
 
Damn, I really want to get back on, but I'm going to wait until I get a new comp so I can play it in pretty mode. Good thing, too because I can't afford the time sink right now. Damn WoW for beign so addicting!
 
Is this going to be a one time purchase or will the monthly fee be raised?

I'm also wondering how much it will take to obtain those new ten levels. If going by the current level ratio how much experience would you need for level 70?
 
I imagine 60-70 will be like hell levels in the original EQ. Hmm, the Blood Elves and their city look pretty goofy, but I'm digging the new monster designs they show in the trailer. Might resubscribe to check this out when it's released.
 
Gaijin To Ronin said:
Awesome. I´m sure I will create a Blood Elve for pure lonewolf action. My actual character, a warlock forsaken, was intended for that but I gott involved in a guild that is being pretty fun (I´m in a RP server, is really nice when you are around people that want to play the same way than you).

I had the secret hope that they would include new classes, even if I knew it was impossible... that gossip about "spellbreaker" sound awesome.

The last days I´m having a blast in Desolace, the world building of this game is absolutely awesome, there is a true sense of wonder in all scenarios. I had my first experience enslaving a demon and was really fun. Hope I can get near to 60 before the expansions comes to Europe.
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Sounds like a good guild man,
I can't for the expansion, I play a PVP (gorefiend) and RPGPVP (EmeraldDreams) server. So now horde has Elfs..... I was wondering by the high elfs wasn't in the game. :D Can't wait to see the BloodElf dance, it better not be just a copy paste of NightElfs. :lol
 
They wait until the right time and then... BAM! New Alliance race... God, I hope they're something special... But what can they possibly add now? Pandaren? :lol

I'm really curious to this new race, you'd think they would introduce an entire new race, some race that had lain dorment in the Outlands? Blizzard better speak up now!
 
Vashu said:
They wait until the right time and then... BAM! New Alliance race... God, I hope they're something special... But what can they possibly add now? Pandaren? :lol

I'm really curious to this new race, you'd think they would introduce an entire new race, some race that had lain dorment in the Outlands? Blizzard better speak up now!
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They are choosing the races carefully, Blood Elves were given to horde to increase the population on the horde side, if they give Pandarans to alliance it would nullify that. It will be something ugly and not all that appealing, most likely the Draeni.
 
Hold on, from watching the trailer it sounds as if the Blood Elves may be at odds with both the Alliance _and_ Horde.

It is confirmed that the Blood Elves are one of the new races, but can anyone post a link confirming that they are a HORDE race?

(Getting rather confused here.)
 
Schafer said:
if they give Pandarans to alliance it would nullify that. It will be something ugly and not all that appealing, most likely the Draeni.
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I agree with your reasoning, but I get the feeling that they'll remain NPCs. They're so ridiculously dull and poorly designed, no one would want to play them. Maybe it'll be a new race entirely?
Bregor said:
Hold on, from watching the trailer it sounds as if the Blood Elves may be at odds with both the Alliance _and_ Horde.

It is confirmed that the Blood Elves are one of the new races, but can anyone post a link confirming that they are a HORDE race?
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http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/burningcrusade/faq.html
Q: What are the new races? When will you reveal all of them?
A: The first new race that we have announced for the expansion set is the Blood Elf race. No longer trusted by the Alliance, these former High Elves have joined the Horde to hunt down the demons that destroyed their homeland of Quel'Thalas. We plan to unveil details about possible additional races at a later date.
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Schafer said:
They are choosing the races carefully, Blood Elves were given to horde to increase the population on the horde side, if they give Pandarans to alliance it would nullify that. It will be something ugly and not all that appealing, most likely the Draeni.
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It's probaby going to be the Dranei, the expansion continent is their homeland afterall, just makes too much sense not to be. It would certainly prevent those who crave to play the cutesy characters from rolling another alliance toon.
 
Bregor said:
Hold on, from watching the trailer it sounds as if the Blood Elves may be at odds with both the Alliance _and_ Horde.

It is confirmed that the Blood Elves are one of the new races, but can anyone post a link confirming that they are a HORDE race?

(Getting rather confused here.)
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Easily confused are you?

Right from the front page posted in the OP

Two new playable races, including the magical Blood Elves
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and of course...

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/burningcrusade/townhall/bloodelves.html

EDIT: NM too late.
 
Nobiru said:
Sounds cool and all ....but raising the cap to 70 fucking sucks =/
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I disagree, the game needs a way to advance your characters beyond 60 besides equipment.

And quite frankly, I don't expect 70 to be the final limit either. I suspect that 100 will be the eventual limit, with Blizzard pushing it up 10 lvls per expansion.
 
Bregor said:
I disagree, the game needs a way to advance your characters beyond 60 besides equipment.

And quite frankly, I don't expect 70 to be the final limit either. I suspect that 100 will be the eventual limit, with Blizzard pushing it up 10 lvls per expansion.
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i just thought World of Warcraft was gonna be more of a PvP game, like Dark Age, and not a PvE game like EQ ....plus the fact that they could barely keep there level 60s happy, now they are gonna make everything they just did pretty much useless :P

but i guess thats pretty standard to MMOs....i was just stupid for thinking WoW wouldnt raise the cap :P ....


....oh shit, on the bright side, is that i might get a new form to shift into in those 10 extra levels....so forget everything i said GIMME GIMME !


Edit: Flying mounts = OWL FORM!!!!! .....at least i hope so :P
 
Bregor said:
I disagree, the game needs a way to advance your characters beyond 60 besides equipment.
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It makes the game more interesting, but means any work to gain epics in MC or PvP was/is a waste of time.
 
vitaflo said:
It makes the game more interesting, but means any work to gain epics in MC or PvP was/is a waste of time.
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That's always the way it works as new content is introduced. You should have expected it - I did. It's one of the reasons I have put only very little effort into MC.
 
I doubt it. The Tier2 sets are item level's 76. So it would be the equivalent of a very nice blue item to a level 70.

Having said that, what do people who are farming MC/BWL think? That their gear was going to be the best, even after expansions? Puhlease.

That's not even the mindset of most raiders right now, they're drooling thinking about the gear that's going to be dropping of the new dungeons, and the gear they have now are going to make things much better for them than for those w/o phat lewtz.
 
ZombieSupaStar said:
yeah doesnt that mean the months people spent in MC are now pretty much worthless as their gear wont be up to the 60-70 spec?



Ouch... lol
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:lol Then why play the damn game? Christ, so many people just farm shit to get somewhere, then get mad when there's nothing left to do.
 
fallout said:
:lol Then why play the damn game? Christ, so many people just farm shit to get somewhere, then get mad when there's nothing left to do.
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Im just laughing at the people that sunk their lives into the game throwing a hissy fit is all


Ive had the game since last novemeber and have yet to get above level 48 (altho I have like 7 chars)


i guess im tooo casual :D
 
vitaflo said:
It makes the game more interesting, but means any work to gain epics in MC or PvP was/is a waste of time.
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Its called item progression and its standard for the genre. It won't be a waste of time, the gear will be necessary to take the next target in the chain, same as it is now. So people who try BWL without gearing out their gear in MC loot will get completely smoked, same as people who attempt the next high end raid dungeon will get destroyed if they don't gear up in BWL first.
 
RonaldoSan said:
Is this going to be a one time purchase or will the monthly fee be raised?
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That's impossible (raising the monthly fee). I'm certain it'll be a one time purchase of $29.99.
 
most placed epic drops are BoP.. a few placed epic drops are BoE. All random epic drops are BoE.

Schafer said:
Bind on Equip.
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I think he was referring to selling you BoEs.. Even which you usually only get a few gold each for them.. hardly worth selling to a vendor (though have have no other choice anyway).
 
Sal Paradise Jr said:
I doubt it. The Tier2 sets are item level's 76. So it would be the equivalent of a very nice blue item to a level 70.

Having said that, what do people who are farming MC/BWL think? That their gear was going to be the best, even after expansions? Puhlease.

That's not even the mindset of most raiders right now, they're drooling thinking about the gear that's going to be dropping of the new dungeons, and the gear they have now are going to make things much better for them than for those w/o phat lewtz.
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Nobody thought their gear would be the best after expansion, however, people probably did think that the gear they spent month and months getting would then allow them to get even better gear in the new instances (since they'd be armed for it). Like how you deck yourself out in MC gear before you can really move to BWL. They thought of it as the next progression.

Now with a higher lvl cap all that time in MC is for naught because you can just lvl up to 70 and get BOE blues from the AH that are on par with the epics you spend months in MC trying to get. Imagine if you had to run ST with 40 players when you were lvl 50, would you have done it? Probably not, and if you did, you wouldn't have been doing it for months on end, you would have just leveled to 60 instead. Same idea here.
 
Borys said:
That's impossible (raising the monthly fee). I'm certain it'll be a one time purchase of $29.99.
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It'll be full price like all of Blizzard's expansions, count on it.
 
vitaflo said:
Nobody thought their gear would be the best after expansion, however, people probably did think that the gear they spent month and months getting would then allow them to get even better gear in the new instances (since they'd be armed for it). Like how you deck yourself out in MC gear before you can really move to BWL. They thought of it as the next progression.

Now with a higher lvl cap all that time in MC is for naught because you can just lvl up to 70 and get BOE blues from the AH that are on par with the epics you spend months in MC trying to get. Imagine if you had to run ST with 40 players when you were lvl 50, would you have done it? Probably not, and if you did, you wouldn't have been doing it for months on end, you would have just leveled to 60 instead. Same idea here.
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Mudflation is unavoidable in these types of games. Old content will eventually get outdated as players grow more powerful. Hell look at EQ, Trakanon for example used to take a full raid to take down of max level characters, near the end of my tenure there I managed to kill him with a group of 6.
 
vitaflo said:
Now with a higher lvl cap all that time in MC is for naught because you can just lvl up to 70 and get BOE blues from the AH that are on par with the epics you spend months in MC trying to get. Imagine if you had to run ST with 40 players when you were lvl 50, would you have done it? Probably not, and if you did, you wouldn't have been doing it for months on end, you would have just leveled to 60 instead. Same idea here.
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this is 100% correct. but let's disect it

you can just lvl up to 70
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how long do you think this is going to take? I predict it will take a good portion of what it took to get to 60 just to get to 70. It won't happen in a week or two.

get BOE blues from the AH that are par with the epics you spend months in MC trying to get.
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yes, at level 70.. what about getting to level 61-69? and who is to say that 60->61 will be as trivial as 59->60? maybe you will NEED that BWL loot to have a reasonable time questing for level 61+?

Imagine if you had to run ST with 40 players when you were lvl 50
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true, but at the time (i.e. now) getting 49->50 is the same as 50->51 is the same as 51->52. We are all assuming here that a blue 60 will be able to take on expansion content as is.. who says that is the case? What if a blue 60 will have a tough time with expansion content and instead you will need to have at least a a bit or raid loot under your belt (or including your belt as the case may be)?

EQ did this same thing (after a while). Eventually for EQ expansions virtually required you to complete the high end content from the previous expansion. Just maxing out your level or AAs from the previous expansion usually wasn't enough. You needed the loot from that expansion to make any sort of progression in the new expansion.
 
Mudflation is unavoidable in these types of games. Old content will eventually get outdated as players grow more powerful. Hell look at EQ, Trakanon for example used to take a full raid to take down of max level characters, near the end of my tenure there I managed to kill him with a group of 6.
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Furthermore, I would say that it has been obvious to many from the beginning that 60 would not always be the final limit. And I don't expect 70 to be either. They still are at least 3 major areas they have yet to add, including Northrend. You didn't really expect Arthas to be a boss that lvl 60's can take down, did you?
 
I'm definitely going to be rolling a blood elf when the expansion hits. Sucks that the only eye candy horde had were female trolls (and only 1 of there faces were good looking).
 
borghe said:
true, but at the time (i.e. now) getting 49->50 is the same as 50->51 is the same as 51->52. We are all assuming here that a blue 60 will be able to take on expansion content as is.. who says that is the case? What if a blue 60 will have a tough time with expansion content and instead you will need to have at least a a bit or raid loot under your belt (or including your belt as the case may be)?.
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I don't think that will be the case because of one thing, casuals. They have to allow casuals to get to lvl cap, and a majority of players in the game will never do MC. I can see them making lvl 60-70 be much harder to lvl (lots of XP) but they're not going to require epic raid loot to get to 70.

FWIW, people can get XP at 60 from lvl 48 mobs, and lvl 50's quests. It would be slower going but you could do it. I would expect lvl 58 mobs to be green at lvl 70, thus if someone really wanted they could lvl to 70 and only need to go as far as EP to do so.

Though you bring up some good points, we really don't know how they're going to lay it out, and some of what I've said is mostly guessing at this point.
 
Teknopathetic said:
Sorry Korranator.

However, rolling a character on Alliance made the game brand new to me.
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BOOOOO!

I started a new horde character (Tauren Warrior) on Maelstrom named Rombus.
 
Bregor said:
I disagree, the game needs a way to advance your characters beyond 60 besides equipment
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Yes, but it would have been nice if they found a way besides the obvious. If someone is bored of being level 60, this won't help and will probably be even more a hindrance. I don't want to do the same thing I've already done for over a year. Hero classes or class deviation would be really great alternatives.

I doubt it. The Tier2 sets are item level's 76. So it would be the equivalent of a very nice blue item to a level 70
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Almost but not quite. Epics are alotted more points than blues are just for being epics. In fact this highlights just how shitty Blizzard's item system is. Tier1 is ilvl 66. T2 is 76. T2 to a lvl 70 has the same value as T1 to a 60. Which obviously isn't true at all. Actually it might be, but there's no epic ilvl 56 tier to compare.

At the very least T2 sets are going to need a revision on the effectiveness of point placement. They currently waste too much on meaningless resistance and miscellaneous stats.

Of course I just remembered they can avoid this mess by just making next tiers drop artifact or legendary or whatever the fuck the next step up is.
 
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