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Wrasslin Discussion: Week of June 5th.
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Tchu-Espresso
likes mayo on everthing and can't dance
I dont know why i clicked this thread considering the show airs in an hr and half here.
Good show? Was RVD using his old style again?
Good show? Was RVD using his old style again?
The Main Event
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The Black Brad Pitt said:
Great show. Watch it.
Christopher
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Cena ends the show :lol
Cena ends the show :lol
mightynine
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Biohazard said:
Looks like some odds were overcome there.
The Frankman
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Cena = RUTHLESS AGGRESSION
Guess who's music was playing at the end? :lol
Guess who's music was playing at the end? :lol
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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I had shit to do, but I'm glad you've been waiting on hearing from me. <3mightynine said:
I'm downloading this now.
Keyser Soze
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I just got up early to watch the show which i recorded durind the night and can i just say ****ing Sky Sports ****ed the ****ing thing up with a big ****ing TEMPORARY FAULT on my screen for a whole ****ing hour....
...THAT's NOT ****ING TEMPORARY!!!!!!!...
...the fault started just the the Rob/Rey match was getting good and kept going until it finally game back and John ****ING Cena was talking about Hulk ****ING Hogan.
**** YOU SKY AND YOUR ****ING ****S UPS. YOU'D NEVER ****ING UP DURING A ****ING FOOTBALL MATCH BUT YOU CANT DO A 2HOUR WRESYLING SHOW RIGHT
****ING ****ERS!!!
...THAT's NOT ****ING TEMPORARY!!!!!!!...
...the fault started just the the Rob/Rey match was getting good and kept going until it finally game back and John ****ING Cena was talking about Hulk ****ING Hogan.
**** YOU SKY AND YOUR ****ING ****S UPS. YOU'D NEVER ****ING UP DURING A ****ING FOOTBALL MATCH BUT YOU CANT DO A 2HOUR WRESYLING SHOW RIGHT
****ING ****ERS!!!
VisionaryQuest0
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Keyser Soze said:
And suddenly I'm glad the filter is in affect. :lol
Does Smackdown remind anyone of WCW Thunder? It was a show that was at first equal to the companies flagship program Nitro, just as Smackdown WAS to Raw. Then, it switched nights at WCW all but abandoned it.
Smackdown has a champion who gets beat everyweek. Most of it's pushed talent are the "6'5+ Stiffs" that Joey Styles talked about tonight. With the injuries and "defections" there roster is now a Joke. And what do we have to look forward to? Rey vs Henry and then Batista vs. Henry(again). Booker vs Lashely? Great Khali vs Taker??? And we all know that Batista will be the one to overcome and beat Great Khali before Khali gets the boot.
Smackdown has a champion who gets beat everyweek. Most of it's pushed talent are the "6'5+ Stiffs" that Joey Styles talked about tonight. With the injuries and "defections" there roster is now a Joke. And what do we have to look forward to? Rey vs Henry and then Batista vs. Henry(again). Booker vs Lashely? Great Khali vs Taker??? And we all know that Batista will be the one to overcome and beat Great Khali before Khali gets the boot.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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Dude, it's cool and all that you wrote this out, but you're stating the obvious. We've been talking about this for months.Nameless said:
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What I don't understand is why WWE keeps taking guys from Smackdown! and moving them to other brands or getting rid of them, especially now when it NEEDS talent. First Nitro and Melina get moved after Mercury is taken off the roster, Benoit is sidelined (and he's going to go to ECW sooner or later) then Angle goes to ECW, then Animal is released (no big deal there though), Nunzio and Taz are going to ECW, and now in my favorite "WTF" move, Randy Orton is brought back from his suspension, only to be moved to RAW.
If they're going to keep Smackdown! going, it's time to just go ahead and recombine the now-shrinking RAW and SD! rosters again, and feature everyone on both nights like the used to. Either that, or bring back the brand draft after UPN becomes CW, and really change things up.
But of course this is also the same thing that's been discussed for months.
It's just that Smackdown! keeps losing more and more people as of late.
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Deleted member 8095
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Seeing those ECW clips tonight made me miss ECW Raven 
I cant stand him on TNA. Loved him to death in WCW. The Flock!
I cant stand him on TNA. Loved him to death in WCW. The Flock!Battlezone
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There was a shot near the end that showed RVD repeatedly punching Cena in the face. Could somebody make a gif of that, please?
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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Put the pieces together, champ.Lyte Edge said:
the_geche said:
:lol Yeah.
Just finished watching what I missed. That Foley promo was great, and all the shooting going on was awesome. A great show. Here's hoping they can keep this up, and that Edge isn't paralyzed by tomorrow.
I also loved the very visible "BOO CENA" sign in the first few rows.
Tchu-Espresso
likes mayo on everthing and can't dance
:lol shit those commentators went apeshit at eachother.
And Tazz, for crying out loud LOSE SOME WEIGHT! It wouldnt hurt you to do a sit up everynow and again!
And Tazz, for crying out loud LOSE SOME WEIGHT! It wouldnt hurt you to do a sit up everynow and again!
Keyser Soze
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Eminem said:
I believe this was sorted out at the smackdown tapings
Outcast2004
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jobber said:
That will never happen. HHH will NEVER go to the B (C o D- seems more close) show, same with Michaels.
There's no pieces to put together. Smackdown has been renewed for 2 more seasons. So unless WWe is pulling the plug early they need to inject some life in the show...BAD.Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
Keyser Soze
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Even though SD cant be canceled that does not stop WWE from changing it to a ECW only show somewhere down the line and having WWE stuff only on RAW and ECW stuff only on SD (with a name change)...
Outcast2004
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Keyser Soze said:
Depends on how it was sold to the CW network. It if was marketed to them as Smackdown and being a separate enitity, that'll make the difference.
But, I really don't believe they can change the name of the show, nor do I feel they'll end the brand split.
It is kinda sad though, after last night ECW officially has a better roster than Smackdown... not even counbting in future roster jumps like Hardy and Moore
Outcast2004
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Matlock said:
....but not what they paid for.
Besides ECW on broadcast REALLY limits what they could get away with.
the last part you are completely right about, but the first part is really moot, and in the end doesn't matter at all. Networks want ratings, ratings determine advertising worth. CW is paying to have a show produced by WWE on the air.Outcast2004 said:
Now think about this. WWE is almost flagrantly sinking Smackdown. It's been said like 5 times in this thread already. Smackdown is at its lowest ratings in show history and the biggest stars of the show keep getting sent somewhere else. Smackdown AAA talent is now down to Henry (uggh), Rey, Batista, and Booker. They are trying to push Lashley, who is going over well, Kahli, who will never go over, and they have Undertaker on a part time (PPV only?) basis. That's it. Their roster is shit and it is obvious they are doing it intentionally. So then WWE approaches CW and says, "We can have our Smackdown brand on there which doesn't even pull a 2.0 any more, or we can bring on ECW which is pulling (from my ass) 1.5 on a cable channel."
Plain and simple IMHO. Universal wants to stick ECW on the red-headed step child channel (as far as wrestling is concerned), and Vince wants it in the big leagues. So he sinks Smackdown, and CW, with its two year contract, is facing either a sunk Smackdown or a growing ECW which would at least bring in higher than a 2.0 (in theory).
Christopher
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If Rey Rey loses his WHC on Smackdown!'s behalf I won't even bother TiVoing it anymore and I mean that...that's like the last fatal blow it needs.
Outcast2004
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Biohazard said:
After last night's show I already told my wife to take it off the season pass and change it over to ECW. Smackdown as a whole has been dead to me for some time, and with the recent roster moves and the pieces of shit who are left... I don't care about it at all.
WWE has apparently realised Smackdown is a lame duck until September when CW launches because some UPN stations are deliberately pre-empting high rating shows that will be on CW. Once they're on CW I'd expect a better focus on it. It's probably also why they're spending the summer trying to get Booker, Lashley and Finlay over. There's been no doubt for ages that it's the B show though.
And you think ECW would bring a consistent 2.0+ rating? :lol If there was really any demand for ECW they wouldn't have ended up on SciFi. It's just another "invasion" that they will find some way to **** up.
Better roster how? I'm not saying Smackdown is better, I'd say it's more even. But when Batista returns they will actually have two guys who can draw money. ECW has Angle (who admitedly counts for 10 men), a sloppy RVD and a bunch of garbage wrestlers who were broken down in 1999, let alone 2006.
And you think ECW would bring a consistent 2.0+ rating? :lol If there was really any demand for ECW they wouldn't have ended up on SciFi. It's just another "invasion" that they will find some way to **** up.
Better roster how? I'm not saying Smackdown is better, I'd say it's more even. But when Batista returns they will actually have two guys who can draw money. ECW has Angle (who admitedly counts for 10 men), a sloppy RVD and a bunch of garbage wrestlers who were broken down in 1999, let alone 2006.
mightynine
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Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
Really, I just like seeing your avatar.
ECW is on Sci-Fi because there is literally no other network for it to go to. USA doesn't want it (doesn't want to be the wrestling station), doesn't want it on any other Universal station, etc. This ECW is certainly unproven, BUT, if they can show it pulling a 1.4-1.5 on sci-fi, and smackdown is pulling 1.8-1.9 on CW (which technically should see an INCREASE in ratings with the increase in affiliate count), don't count it out for WWE to propose replacing the sinking Smackdown (which they are deliberately doing) with the rising ECW.pilonv1 said:
I'm not in favor of or against this, just pointing it out. Pretty simple ratings economics.
That's my point though, there's a reason they're (both WWE and UPN stations) tanking it right now. If this continues past September then I'll agree that's where they're going. I don't see them getting much above TNA ratings, and certainly nowhere near a 2.0. Smackdown still has bigger stars and they're the ones who are going to make them money. It's a lot harder for Heyman to make stars with a limited roster and 1 hour of TV on a smaller cable network. Plus their main aim is to run smaller cities they don't visit anymore, keep costs down and make some money.
But in the end it's just another WWE brand and they're diluting their product even more. If the ratings hold up then they're smarter than I am.
Christopher
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Outcast2004
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pilonv1 said:
Batista has not been a draw of any sort. In fact, he's delivered some of the worst matches and PPV main evnets that Smackdown has ever had.
Big Dave was just a "right place, right time" guy and has not much of a future. He's 39, injury prone and apparantly has an attitude problem.
Oh, you're forgetting that the ECW roster will eb bolstered by more people very soon. Some from Raw, some from SD. Even now, ECW has the roster I'd rather watch. Light on the gimmicky bullshit, high on the wrestling with some hardcore brawling mixed in.
Outcast2004 said:
Working with JBL and Henry doesn't help. I'm not saying he's a huge draw, but his feud with Hunter drew really well. You can argue that a lot of it was Hunter and that maybe anyone could have done it. But he was a part of it. You could also point out this years Backlash (Hunter/Cena/Edge, stupid God angle) v. last year (Hunter v Batista rematch), there was a massive drop in buys. He's more of a draw than anyone on Smackdown besides Mysterio. Not someone who's going to add a huge amount of buys, but people do see him as a big star.
I would prefer to see Angle on Smackdown wrestling with Benoit, Regal, Finlay, Lashley and Booker but that's just me. The thought of Angle working with Balls Mahoney and Tony Mamaluke doesn't really excite me. If Heyman had gotten "his guys" (Kennedy, Albright and Beth Phoenix) I'd be more interested. Until they send some more people their way all I can go on is the shitty roster they have so far.
Arrowgigantic
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Kurt isn't going to be heel on ECW.
Arrowgigantic
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Also, Smackdown =
As long as he can stay healthy.
As long as he can stay healthy.
The Main Event
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Matlock said:
:lol :lol :lol
Christopher
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Matthew Gallant said:Also, Smackdown =
As long as he can stay healthy.
I still don't see the big deal in him...
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