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WTF is that secret BBC PS3 game?

SolidSnakex said:
While Cambridge is working on LBP PSP, they're a 90+ member company and LBP PS3 was put together by Media Molecule who's only made up of 27 people. So, it's not unrealistic to think that that Cambridge would also have a PS3 project in development.

Depends. I think that'd only be reasonable if they'd exited their role as a 'support' team for other projects. If they're still actively engaged in that role, I'm not sure how they'd be squeezing a PS3 project in there. At least not one that's in active full-blown development..perhaps one that's in preproduction.
 
There's no way it ships in 2009 with as stacked as Sony's lineup is. If it's an FPS, then it needs to get delayed or MAG. They can't release close to eachother.

If it's truly as special as they are claiming, then it will either be next Spring or probably next Fall.

I just hope we see it at E3 finally.
 
gofreak said:
Liverpool was merged with Evolution. So they'd be working on another racer in the 'storm series I guess, new Wipeout DLC and possibly one other project (?) Again though, that might depend if there was 'streamlining' or not after the merge.

Sony Liverpool have still to show their (supposedly great) action/adventure project.

SolidSnakex said:
While Cambridge is working on LBP PSP, they're a 90+ member company and LBP PS3 was put together by Media Molecule who's only made up of 27 people. So, it's not unrealistic to think that that Cambridge would also have a PS3 project in development.

I heard they were working on a Sony Cambridge 'branded' PS3 project ages ago. They were perfecting their own in house engine for the game some time ago so I imagine they've been working on it since.

It's been a while so perhaps an unveiling at E3?

Also... I heard that EyePet (or the tech behind it) was largely developed by the Dutch studio PlayLogic and that Sony London are the Sony studio assigned to help with it. Much like Sony Liverpool are (or were) the 'go to' point for PSN developers. Not sure about some of the wording but that's what I heard.
 
Cambridge have been working on lots of other Sony titles, helping studios, but it's the big studio in question. They haven't produced anything significant in years. They could have a major PS3 game in development.

However, I doubt it's anything the BBC guy would have seen. If it's a real-time gameplay video he saw, not some target render, the game must have been fairly close to finishing, or there is no way it'd be such a massive leap. I doubt any game will ever be that outside of generational leaps.

Every generation has been gradually improvement. It requires iteration.

The guy was either lied to about the nature of the footage, or he's massively aggregating.
 
gofreak said:
Depends. I think that'd only be reasonable if they'd exited their role as a 'support' team for other projects. If they're still actively engaged in that role, I'm not sure how they'd be squeezing a PS3 project in there. At least not one that's in active full-blown development..perhaps one that's in preproduction.

Well, the last two games that they've released have been remakes of PSone games to the PSP, which wouldn't have taken a lot of people to do. I just find it hard to believe that Sony has had a team that talented doing nothing but helping other teams get their shit together on the PS3. I mean, if they're that good at programming for the PS3, why the hell wouldn't you want them making a game for it?
 
SolidSnakex said:
Well, the last two games that they've released have been remakes of PSone games to the PSP, which wouldn't have taken a lot of people to do. I just find it hard to believe that Sony has had a team that talented doing nothing but helping other teams get their shit together on the PS3. I mean, if they're that good at programming for the PS3, why the hell wouldn't you want them making a game for it?

Sony Cambridge are really more of an R&D studio than a game development one like say Sony Liverpool.
 
LiquidMetal14 said:
The Protector.

The Protector is a Xbox360/PC game


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SolidSnakex said:
I mean, if they're that good at programming for the PS3, why the hell wouldn't you want them making a game for it?

I guess other internal studios needed help back then on PS3 and Cambridge was there, now with LBP Cambridge return to the game , let's wait and see .

SolidSnakex said:
Well, the last two games that they've released have been remakes of PSone games to the PSP

IIRC last game from them was 24: The Game , it was original PS2 game .
 
gofreak said:
There's a rumour that this was only recently unveiled internally at Sony at one of their business meetings. That being the case I cannot imagine some SCEE rep managed to pass this guy a glimpse of it last year ahead of even internal showings.

And that's also why I'm beginning to think this is BS..I highly doubt we haven't already seen whatever this guy saw, because that would suggest he saw something way way in advance of perhaps even when Sony would normally start showing things internally.

I'm sure I remember some Insomniac guys saying they had been shown some Trico footage in an internal meeting sometime last year. Anyone else remember that?
 
freethought said:
I'm sure I remember some Insomniac guys saying they had been shown some Trico footage in an internal meeting sometime last year. Anyone else remember that?

I do. But they showed only very early concept and I doubt that BBC guy can judge a game with a concept more than with stunning visual/animation/voice acting...
 
gregor7777 said:
does it still exist as an exclusive game?
Did it ever?

I can't believe they'd just make it up, but it still hasn't been announced, and they don't seem too hot on console exclusives.
 
gregor7777 said:
Forgot about that...does it still exist as an exclusive game?
No one really knows at this point except people at the top of it but its been over two years since they first made the announcement
and should have something to show if its really coming. We also haven't heard from NCsoft but at least, they confirmed last year
that, they were working on something for PS3 and were going to show it soon but it never happened.
 
Busty said:
Why wouldn't it? It was signed and sealed as an exclusive.

How do you know? It's an honest question. We've seen a whole lot of backtracking this gen over supposed 'locked down 3rd party exclusives'.

As a matter of fact, I'd say it's more likely it's no longer exclusive (if it exists) given the history this gen.

Unless you're paid by Sony for development or marketing, why in the world would you make a PS3 exclusive these days? That would be insane.

EDIT that obviously only applies to a game aimed at Western audiences. Making a PS3 exclusive game aimed at Japanese audiences makes sense.
 
Actually, the Rockstar thing is perhaps the only occasion this gen where Sony has come out and said explicitly that they signed a deal with a third party for an exclusive (in this case, the only time I've seen their director of third party relationships come out and announce such an agreement).

Yes, they referred to MGS4 and others as exclusives, but they never AFAIK said it was something that was contractually binding (temporarily or otherwise). But they did go out of their way to say there was an agreement and 'exclusive rights' in this case. It was all quite formally laid out, unlike cases where they simply refer to this or that game as an exclusive (where it may simply happen to be an exclusive, or happen to be an exclusive for now).

Of course, that doesn't mean their exclusive rights aren't/weren't temporary, but I just mean to point out if one of the few, if not the only, times they've actually confirmed a 'proper' deal.

Things can change however, for sure. And that this was announced nearly two years ago suggests that quite possibly things have changed. If there's nothing at this year's E3, I doubt there will be anything.
 
BeeDog said:
When have the EG guys said that?

There was a long running thread about this on their boards. Two of their writers admitted to seeing the game at the showing as Darren Waters.
 
Saiyar said:
There was a long running thread about this on their boards. Two of their writers admitted to seeing the game at the showing as Darren Watters.

So they haven't played it? when can we expect the review?
 
Dizzan said:
ol it's time to let it go.

Uncharted 2, God of WarIII, Heavy Rain, GT5, Killzone. That's as good as it gets this gen folks. Nothing else will blow us away. It may be incrementally better but not "change the way we see videogames"

Heh, you're in for a very rude (or sweet, depends on your POV) awakening if you think that.

Sony have 2 and a half years worth of software being worked on internally and if you think they are not going to top those titles... heh.
 
Sin said:
Heh, you're in for a very rude (or sweet, depends on your POV) awakening if you think that.

Sony have 2 and a half years worth of software being worked on internally and if you think they are not going to top those titles... heh.
He didn't say they wouldn't top them, he said they'd only be incrementally better.
 
pswii60 said:
Like Kane & Lynch was for 360?

Was it?

As in, was there actually a contract there?

We consider lots of exclusives and assume a lot about what's going on in the background, but I'm willing to bet that often when we think there's a deal in place, there might not have been. Or may only have been a temporary one.

In the case of K&L I can't remember anyone at Eidos or MS saying there was a deal there.

Of course, even if there are deals, deals can change. Parties can exit from them and pay a fee or be absolved from them by the other party.

But again, I just mean to point out that the Rockstar/Sony thing was actually one of the few occasions we've seen two parties come out and confirm the formality of such an arrangement.

The age of that agreement does raise doubts of course. If nothing's said about it at E3, someone should follow up with Sony and find out if it's still a going concern or not.
 
shagg_187 said:
No. Like Assassin's Creed for PS3.
gofreak said:
Was it?

As in, was there actually a contract there?

We consider lots of exclusives and assume a lot about what's going on in the background, but I'm willing to bet that often when we think there's a deal in place, there might not have been. Or may only have been a temporary one.

In the case of K&L I can't remember anyone at Eidos or MS saying there was a deal there.

Of course, even if there are deals, deals can change. Parties can exit from them and pay a fee or be absolved from them by the other party.

But again, I just mean to point out that the Rockstar/Sony thing was actually one of the few occasions we've seen two parties come out and confirm the formality of such an arrangement.

The age of that agreement does raise doubts of course. If nothing's said about it at E3, someone should follow up with Sony and find out if it's still a going concern or not.
Kane & Lynch was very clearly announced as being Xbox 360 exclusive at X06. Was there a contract in place? Is there at Rockstar? Who the fuck knows. Who cares.
 
proposition said:
He didn't say they wouldn't top them, he said they'd only be incrementally better.

Should have worded it better, let's just say that those titles are not the high point of this generation yet.
 
pswii60 said:
Kane & Lynch was very clearly announced as being Xbox 360 exclusive at X06. Was there a contract in place? Is there at Rockstar? Who the fuck knows. Who cares.

I'm merely pointing out that it's actually very rare for formal exclusivity arrangements to be divulged...and, strangely, given that we've heard nothing of it since, the Rockstar/Sony thing was one of those few examples where they very explicitly disclosed the existence of a contract :p

I doubt there was such an agreement wrt K&L. Sony has similarly announced 'exclusives' that I doubt it had formal agreements on, games that just simply happened to be exclusive.

But you're right, it doesn't necessarily add any greater weight..such a contract could still only be temporary, or indeed, could be scrapped. With that Rockstar one looking a bit long in the tooth, I'd not be surprised if that's happened there.
 
pswii60 said:
Kane & Lynch was very clearly announced as being Xbox 360 exclusive at X06. Was there a contract in place? Is there at Rockstar? Who the fuck knows. Who cares.

Eidos changed all that today with the official confirmation of the shooter and let the public know what it can expect from the new IP. The "intense action title" will be released on the Xbox 360 and PC sometime in 2007. The company's press release chose its words carefully, saying the game "will be released in 2007 initially for the Xbox 360" and PC (emphasis added). The word "initially" could imply that it will also head to other platforms, one obvious destination being the PlayStation 3.

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/kanelynchdeadmen/news.html?sid=6154740&mode=news
 
pseudocaesar said:
Wardevil. 1080p 120 FPS. 4D MOTHERFUCKERS!

Please never ever mention this game again, the tech used on this game is laughable, hopefully it will never get released....
 
SolidSnakex said:
Stop being so pedantic. My point was, that it was announced as 360(/PC) exclusive at X06 along with Splinter Cell Conviction. That is a fact. I only brought K&L up as a non-serious point about how these things can change from a day-to-day basis. It seemed blatant to me that MS dropped it as an exclusive when they realised how mediocre it was turning out.

Just because Rockstar announced a ground-up exclusive for PS3 doesn't mean it couldn't have been cancelled, run in development troubles, or anything else for that matter. Or it could be jaw-dropping, game-changing, save the PS3 and be unveiled next month. Idle fucking speculation.
 
I'm starting to think it's a fake news planted by MS spy for the eventual Sony sucks backlash:lol

oh well, I'm not thinking about it. we already got awesome lineup for ps3. anything more is always nice, but even if it's vapourware it doesn't change the fact that I'm glad I have ps3
 
Sin said:
Heh, you're in for a very rude (or sweet, depends on your POV) awakening if you think that.

Sony have 2 and a half years worth of software being worked on internally and if you think they are not going to top those titles... heh.
I love you Sin :D
 
As for the Rockstar/PS3 exclusive thing, Jack Tretton gave an interview with GameTrailers.com back in July 2008 where they asked him about this game and he said:

"I would love to tell you that we do, I hope something is imminent - but it's disappointing that we stand here a year later and doesn't have anything definitive to announce."

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/37272.html
 
I was hyped for E3 for all the "givens" that are going to be there, let alone now that I think Sony has some surprises to unveil along with MS there. I haven't been this hyped for an E3 in a long time.
 
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