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[LordCanti]

I guess if you're going to get got, you might as well get got getting the good stuff.

 

[Warm Machine]

But anyways, I've always stood by the idea that spending money on porn is probably the worst use of money. Why would anyone pay for porn?

Once again, if no one pays for porn no one is going to make it. They don't shoot videos out of the goodness of their hearts.

 

[SillyEskimo]

Legal GAF, would this argument hold up in court?

"You can't have known my IP was involved in the download or distribution unless you endorsed distribution of the torrent either by torrenting it yourself or hiring someone else to. Ergo, distribution was endorsed by your company, and thus any usage of the torrent I did was permissible."

If that is actually your defense, you might as well write them a check for $150k right now.

 

[Five]

If that is actually your defense, you might as well write them a check for $150k right now.

I know it's suicide if the argument doesn't hold up, I was just wondering if it holds up. But I'll infer from your tone that it doesn't.

 

[SillyEskimo]

Once again, if no one pays for porn no one is going to make it. They don't shoot videos out of the goodness of their hearts.

Oh bullshit. This is like the record industry threats. There are plenty of people that will make porn for practically nothing, or actually nothing. We won't have as much quantity or variety and the quality would be shaky at best, but there will always be porn no matter what. Just like music.

 

[strobogo]

What's the average budget for a porn? I can't understand why you can rent a $150M Hollywood movie for $3 through your cable company, but a porn that probably cost $25K at most is available to rent for $14.99.

 

[Warm Machine]

Oh bullshit. This is like the record industry threats. There are plenty of people that will make porn for practically nothing, or actually nothing. We won't have as much quantity or variety and the quality would be shaky at best, but there will always be porn no matter what. Just like music.

Of course there will always be porn. It costs next to nothing for two people or one person to make. However as the cash evaporates the amount goes down. I'm not arguing this. I'm saying that SOMEONE is paying for it because it keeps getting made and at quality levels that the major sites provide. It is silly to question what the point is. The point is someone is spending money on it for it to get made in the first place so you can stream it off one of many sites that seem to not mind it getting streamed.

In terms of music. So many musicians dream of making it big, or at least build a sustainable lifestyle from it. As a result there will always be music, and lots of it as the whole industry is driven by hopes and dreams. I'm not sure porn has the same analog.

What's the average budget for a porn? I can't understand why you can rent a $150M Hollywood movie for $3 through your cable company, but a porn that probably cost $25K at most is available to rent for $14.99.

Because the paying market for it is far smaller than something like Frozen. The more niche the thing you like it the more expensive it actually should be.

 

[FantasticMrFoxdie]

One federal judge has compared its lawsuits to an “extortion scheme”

writing that many defendants, whether they committed copyright infringement or not, would rather settle than face the costs and potential embarrassment of fighting their cases. It is hard to see why anyone facing such a suit would choose not to settle: hiring a lawyer costs more than settling, and damages are exponentially higher in the event of a loss at trial. Plus, no one wants to be publicly accused of stealing pornography. To avoid embarrassment, many defendants may choose to settle before Malibu Media names them in a complaint.

lmao DAMN

 

[Rookje]

It seems like X-Art is what a lot of porn companies are trying to emulate nowadays.

But anyways, I've always stood by the idea that spending money on porn is probably the worst use of money. Why would anyone pay for porn?

Let's say it was absolutely impossible to pirate porn or get it without paying.

Would you pay for it?

 

[SillyEskimo]

Of course there will always be porn. It costs next to nothing for two people or one person to make. However as the cash evaporates the amount goes down. I'm not arguing this. I'm saying that SOMEONE is paying for it because it keeps getting made and at quality levels that the major sites provide. It is silly to question what the point is. The point is someone is spending money on it for it to get made in the first place so you can stream it off one of many sites that seem to not mind it getting streamed.

In terms of music. So many musicians dream of making it big, or at least build a sustainable lifestyle from it. As a result there will always be music, and lots of it as the whole industry is driven by hopes and dreams. I'm not sure porn has the same analog.



Because the paying market for it is far smaller than something like Frozen. The more niche the thing you like it the more expensive it actually should be.

I get what you're saying. I was trying to say that people have a passion for both music and sex. Money is a by product for some people. They'd do it for free because it is their passion.

 

[Enfinit]

Let's say it was absolutely impossible to pirate porn or get it without paying.

Would you pay for it?

That's tough. Probably not, although I'm not sure. Despite having a satisfactory sex life, I just feel like I could spend the money I would spend on porn on something else more... constructive, instead of just getting off for a few moments.

 

[mre]

So, then, Prenda Law, round 2?

Except Prenda didn't even hold the copyrights for many of the properties they were suing over.

 

[Tawney Bomb]

X-Art has gorgeous women in boring scenes.

I also now learned that porn sites can sue people.

 

[hodayathink]

Simple, stream the videos for free on their own tube site and make money from advertisers.

That way customers can watch instantly without waiting for downloads and also don't need to keep the files on their hard drives.

Make it easier than stealing and people won't steal.

Why should they offer it for free? Everything you said about streaming you can already do from their website if you pay.

What people are doing with Bittorrent with their videos is illegal. If they don't want to get caught/charged, then they shouldn't be doing it.

 

[Cow Mengde]

Ok Neogaf. How about we start out own porn site? We'll come up with a business model that's extremely cheap and profitable. We'll make free porn supported by ads. We'll be the Google Fiber/T-Mobile of porn!!!

 

[Blargonaut]

Ahhhh, X-Art. There is no finer repository of the human spirit.

Sad to see their legal woes are that bad. In fact, I know just the solution to help them out...

 

[Diablos]

Newsgroups.

 

[Aztechnology]

One federal judge has compared its lawsuits to an “extortion scheme” writing that many defendants, whether they committed copyright infringement or not, would rather settle than face the costs and potential embarrassment of fighting their cases.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qjj8eMNxivM

 

[Kurdel]

My fave porn site by far, and I am a yearly subscriber.

I'll read the full article later.

 

[Glass Rebel]

not even x-art could get malena and elle to do b-g

maybe someone should sue them for that

or about some models' "exclusivity"

 

[Volimar]

X-Art does find some pretty gorgeous ladies.

Yyyyyyuuuuuupppppp.

 

[Dice]

Thing is, porn doesn't have to go full on artsy like they do in order to be significantly better. Just get some telephoto lenses instead of the wide angle camcorder shit. The simple fact they'll be at a farther distance will force them to learn framing techniques and how to adjust for lighting.

 

[TriniTrin]

This happened to a buddy of mine! X-art said they wanted 10k and he was scared and ended up settling with them for 6k! We all thought he was getting scammed and shouldn't have paid. Looks like they might have took him to court on it based on the article! Crazy!

 

[Angry Grimace]

I hate X-Art crap. I don't want to see people making love, I want to see people fucking in ways I can't or wouldn't do in real life.

 

[Fudgepuppy]

A whole year's subscription for X-art is 480$, that's 68,5 months of Netflix at 7$ a month.

I love porn and want them to make good money, but spending that much money would just make me reconsider using my imagination.

 

[Patrick Bateman]

X-Art is boring as shit. Gotta stick to Bangbros, FH18 and MG.

 

[Glass Rebel]

A whole year's subscription for X-art is 480$, that's 68,5 months of Netflix at 7$ a month.

I love porn and want them to make good money, but spending that much money would just make me reconsider using my imagination.

am I missing something?

 

[MichaelFassbender]

A whole year's subscription for X-art is 480$, that's 68,5 months of Netflix at 7$ a month.

I love porn and want them to make good money, but spending that much money would just make me reconsider using my imagination.

I think that kind of a subscription falls under "obscene luxuries." But I suppose if you are REALLY picky...

 

[Kurdel]

I think that kind of a subscription falls under "obscene luxuries." But I suppose if you are REALLY picky...

Look at the post right before yours.

 

[hodayathink]

am I missing something?

I was just about to post that. Most reputable sites nowadays offer a yearly option that goes between $80 and $120 a year, if you're actually a person who is willing to stick around that long. In general, they'd rather get the lump sum now because the majority of people that subscribe stay for one month and then leave. Which is also why the one month price is so high, comparatively (Netflix knows that people are unlikely to unsub after one month, so they keep the price down to try to keep subscribers as long as possible).

 

[Slayven]

There has to be a point where suit filing has to cost more than what they can recover.

 

[Smellycat]

I am a bit confused, can these companies come after you for simply watching movies online? Or does it only work on Torrent Sites?

 

[chickdigger802]

I enjoy there stuff, but I need more fake tits in me porns.

 

[Setsuna]

I wonder how they will catch me if im behind 10 firewalls

 

[Fudgepuppy]

am I missing something?

I stand corrected.

 

[Cindres]

That's craziness.

I do like a bit of X-Art though, something about a bit of classiness.

 

[Somnid]

More porn companies need a la carte options.

 

[victreeb3l]

I got bored of X-art. Shit is way too slow. Girls are usually great though without that nasty pornstar look.

Yeah torrenting porn is a really bad idea. I had a friend years back that got sued by one of the bigger companies. With so many streaming sites available I dont know why anyone would risk torrenting.

 

[s_mirage]

The more niche the thing you like it the more expensive it actually should be.

Personally I think it's a bit of a chicken and the egg scenario though: by charging a heck of a lot for it they drive away people who would otherwise be interested.

Too much of the porn industry seems to be unable to get away from rather old fashioned ways of doing business. How about giving people more varied options, such as letting people buy individual scenes for reasonable prices rather than having to pay out a large amount every month for everything? If DLC and free to play games have taught us anything it's that people are more likely to spend more if they pay in bite size chunks. Plus, charging for individual scenes could help improve the product since sales figures will show what customers like best.

 

[hodayathink]

Personally I think it's a bit of a chicken and the egg scenario though: by charging a heck of a lot for it they drive away people who would otherwise be interested.

Too much of the porn industry seems to be unable to get away from rather old fashioned ways of doing business. How about giving people more varied options, such as letting people buy individual scenes for reasonable prices rather than having to pay out a large amount every month for everything? If DLC and free to play games have taught us anything it's that people are more likely to spend more if they pay in bite size chunks. Plus, charging for individual scenes could help improve the product since sales figures will show what customers like best.

First, I'm not really sure people would like what they'd end up paying if they paid per scene. I've seen a site or two try it, and the low end is usually about $2 per scene, with the high end getting up to $10-40 per scene (look at Clips4Sale if you don't believe me on that).

Second, they do know what customers like best. It's just that it isn't what you think it is. And, even more to the point, the type of scene that the customers who actually pay for porn like isn't really the same as the type of scene that a general internet porn browser likes, and they're more likely to make the type of scenes that the paying customers actually like.

 

[Lord of Castamere]

Looked them up. Hd is nice for 40 a month but it seems too clean. Will stick to webcams might not be 1080p but at lease it feels 'real'.

 

[LabouredSubterfuge]

Except Prenda didn't even hold the copyrights for many of the properties they were suing over.

Did Prenda even exist?

 

[ItIsOkBro]

Basically, no on ITT is watching free X-Art again.

 

[XenodudeX]

Most of the guys just aren't attractive. They've had a Grey Worm lookalike for the past few videos.

Grey Worm is pretty good looking though.

 

[gutter_trash]

X-Art is boring.

this

Andrew Blake was superior during the 90s in terms of high quality erotica

 

[Intheflorsh]

Their stuff is not hard to find on the streaming sites, I don't know why anyone would take the risk of using a torrent.

 

[Carnby]

95 replies and 2 or 3 are actually about the article in the OP. The rest are an opinion on x-art's "movies" with no mention of their trolling.

 

[Dicer]

X-art, good looking people having boring ass sex...no thanks.

 

[AlimNassor]

I like the sex, but, they really need to stop focusing on the dudes half-flaccid dick. Half the videos are just of the dudes half-flaccid dick pounding away. I generally prefer amateur home videos. Nothing greater then watching a dude fuck his hot g/f on cam.

 

[hodayathink]

95 replies and 2 or 3 are actually about the article in the OP. The rest are an opinion on x-art's "movies" with no mention of their trolling.

Opinion on the actual situation/article:

They're fully within their rights to do this, as these people are illegally distributing their content. The only thing I might have an issue with in theory is the suing IP addresses, as they can't be undoubtedly definitively linked to people. But, again, if you don't want to be charged with/sued for a crime, then stop committing a crime. However you feel about copyright infringement, it's still a crime, and it should be.