It wasn't an important plot point in the movie, that's why it wasn't discussed more. It was more a nod to comic book fans.
Maybe they will use it in Apocalypse.
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It wasn't an important plot point in the movie, that's why it wasn't discussed more. It was more a nod to comic book fans.
Maybe they will use it in Apocalypse.
Is there any other time travel arc they can make a movie of. McAvoy and Fassbender are just too good. Not sure I want another movie set exclusively in the past though...
edit: Doh, apparently the next movie is already announced. I really wanted to see the "new" future though.....
edit: Doh, apparently the next movie is already announced. I really wanted to see the "new" future though.....
Can't even begin to think about that paradox.
pillowtalk
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I see you haven't read through all the pages yet, so I'll say I answered that one two pages back:Lastly a couple things about the Marvel universe:
I missed my Stan Lee cameo in thisAny one hear what happened with that?
(And I just remembered, that was the convention where Rob Ford beat Hulk Hogan at arm wrestling a mere two-three months before transforming into Canada's international punchline of a crack mayor overnight.)
PinkCrayon
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Movie was great. Based Singer delivers us from the garbage of X3/Origins/First Class.
The Good
Seeing everyone back in the doomed future was awesome, and the sentinels really filled you with dread when they arrived.
Even though Wolverine was a central character he was kinda useless (declawed if you will), allowing other powers to shine.
Blink and Quicksilver stole the show in terms of powers (lol at them not bringing QS along because he'd be too overpowered).
Singer got much better performances out of the FC cast.
Effectively erased X3 and most of Origins.
Final scene was fantastic, Cyclops with dem shades.
Effects looked great, IceBobby, Sentinels, portal effects, ect.
The Bad
Only one noticeable patented Singer groaner ("the powers back on").
All the expository dialogue in the second future scene, that was some Inception level shit.
Jlaw is still a bad Mystique. Her action scenes were back to their former excellence (based Singer), but her spandex was really noticeable at times.
Mckellen was underused, not really given much to do, though his final lines to Charles were pretty good.
Enjoyed this much more than than the Marvel phase 2 movies, except maybe Cap.
The Good
Seeing everyone back in the doomed future was awesome, and the sentinels really filled you with dread when they arrived.
Even though Wolverine was a central character he was kinda useless (declawed if you will), allowing other powers to shine.
Blink and Quicksilver stole the show in terms of powers (lol at them not bringing QS along because he'd be too overpowered).
Singer got much better performances out of the FC cast.
Effectively erased X3 and most of Origins.
Final scene was fantastic, Cyclops with dem shades.
Effects looked great, IceBobby, Sentinels, portal effects, ect.
The Bad
Only one noticeable patented Singer groaner ("the powers back on").
All the expository dialogue in the second future scene, that was some Inception level shit.
Jlaw is still a bad Mystique. Her action scenes were back to their former excellence (based Singer), but her spandex was really noticeable at times.
Mckellen was underused, not really given much to do, though his final lines to Charles were pretty good.
Enjoyed this much more than than the Marvel phase 2 movies, except maybe Cap.
roflwaffles
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Yeah I think it's only referenced once in the 90s cartoon. Pietro being Mags' son is very apparent in the 2000s cartoons though like Evolution and Wolverine and the X-men.
There was supposed to be a sub-plot of Magneto and Prof. X organizing Rouge's escape from a mutant prison.
I don't think Wolverine was central. I mean he was a vehicle for us to witness the time-travel happen and through which we see the repercussions, but Charles is far more central to the story than anything. Logan just gets us to him.
Zeyphersan
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I'm seriously still surprised by HOW much I enjoyed this movie. I may have to see it again, which I was not expecting.
I've always counted the X-Men movies as second-tier comic book movies, but this one stepped up the game considerably. I'm really excited for what the sequels have.
I've always counted the X-Men movies as second-tier comic book movies, but this one stepped up the game considerably. I'm really excited for what the sequels have.
SargerusBR
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Wolverine is basically Cell, you can only kill him if you completely destroy his brain
My bad, I think it was everyone above my post that got me confused, as I apparently brushed over the title itself...
That makes sense, but slipping in a quick note on it would've been nice.
Figured it was further into the future. I guess that many years would bring about that sort of change in the world.
A project that big going under for a while, well, yeah I guess I could see it. Need to perfect all the research and components before the big re-reveal. Just have to remember that the original ones were only simple prototypes of what they could be.
...and now to read through a bunch of pages to see what else I missed reading, before I fall asleep.
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Thanks. I'm a little disappointed he didn't make it in, but awesome he did it to meet more fans in person, though. Is this the only title he didn't appear in?
I like the costume. Its supposed to be what a punkass kid from the 70s threw together to try to look cool. It fits the character.
neurosisxeno
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I would say that's probably impossible since Apocalypse is basically immortal. He's basically Brainiac meets Dr. Manhattan. Assuming the toss out the Celestials aspect he is still a mutant who manages to survive for over 5000 years and in the X-Men universe is basically a Demi-God.
Discotheque
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awesome song choice for that scene too.
the fact that he decided to throw his headphones on and go for a leisurely stroll AFTER the guards fired their bullets just shows how ridiculously quick he was in here.
i heard quicksilver isn't this fast. so is the movie iteration more similar to..the flash?
Bobby Roberts
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The movie iteration is WAY more Wally West than it is Pietro Maximoff.
Which is perfectly fine.
Also, I like to think he rigged his Walkman (which is an anachronism anyway) to play at like 30,000x speed so when he takes off it plays back at normal speed for him. Because otherwise when he hits play and starts going it'd sound like whale song.
Which is perfectly fine.
Also, I like to think he rigged his Walkman (which is an anachronism anyway) to play at like 30,000x speed so when he takes off it plays back at normal speed for him. Because otherwise when he hits play and starts going it'd sound like whale song.
clem84
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I haven't watched the other xmen movies in a while but last I remember, Prof X was dead at the end of X3. Well we got a clue after the credits that his consciousness was still alive but his body was gone. And yet in the future part of DOFP he's there. Did one of the movies ever explain how that came about?
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No, it's not in any movie, but here are the explanations (if you can call them that) that both X3's director and DoFP's director have given: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=113397325&postcount=1529
Given how many people ask about this I think that information should be put in the thread title.
There were also people in the theater wondering how is it possible that Professor is alive after X3. I think putting such important plot point in a mid-credit scene in X3 and then not referring to it in further movies was a really bad decision.
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Given how many people ask about this I think that information should be put in the thread title.
There were also people in the theater wondering how is it possible that Professor is alive after X3. I think putting such important plot point in a mid-credit scene in X3 and then not referring to it in further movies was a really bad decision.
I'm thinking of making a X-Men canonicity / chronology / timelines / FAQ thread, if I find the time.ThoseDeafMutes
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I think everything he touches directly (or within a very short radius) is super sped up with him. When he was touching thing s during that scene it looked like they sped up very briefly upon contact then sort of slowed down again shortly after. Earbuds are attached to him and the walkman is pressed up against his chest or w/e. The "aura' probably isn't substantial enough to speed up magneto with him when he dashes.
Miles Quaritch
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Maybe Erik lifting the stadium sets off a chain of events whereby he's awoken from his slumber?
Downside of this whole thing is that we'll never see MasterMold
I have a feeling we'll see MM towards the end of Apocalypse or the following movie. Something about the way Hank said that you can't changed how time plays out but only effect little changes (or something along those lines) felt like a hint that whatever Logan does end up achieving will be a temporary fix, but one that has little changes like Jean/Scott still being alive...
TrumanBurbank
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This is one of the dumbest things I have ever read in my life.
Speaking of the next Apocalypse movie, i wonder what kind of plot they'll go with.
i really don't think they're going to touch AoA. that's way too complex and requires the death of a main character to start off with.
if anything i think they're just going to roll out the 'four horsemen' narrative.
making apocalypse merely 'physically' strong will be too boring. they might make his abilities more in-line with onslaught that would actually be pretty cool.
as for the four horsemen; would love for them to somehow introduce archangel. i could see gambit being a horseman, maybe caliban, too?
Be great if they brought Sinister into it, too. they could have him in disguise as a geneticist as Dr.Nathaniel Essex.
aaahhhh the possibilities.
Also, please have magneto literally rip him in half at the end (for that guilty AoA pleasure)
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i really don't think they're going to touch AoA. that's way too complex and requires the death of a main character to start off with.
if anything i think they're just going to roll out the 'four horsemen' narrative.
making apocalypse merely 'physically' strong will be too boring. they might make his abilities more in-line with onslaught that would actually be pretty cool.
as for the four horsemen; would love for them to somehow introduce archangel. i could see gambit being a horseman, maybe caliban, too?
Be great if they brought Sinister into it, too. they could have him in disguise as a geneticist as Dr.Nathaniel Essex.
aaahhhh the possibilities.
Also, please have magneto literally rip him in half at the end (for that guilty AoA pleasure)
.Zeyphersan
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Speaking of the next Apocalypse movie, i wonder what kind of plot they'll go with.
i really don't think they're going to touch AoA. that's way too complex and requires the death of a main character to start off with.
if anything i think they're just going to roll out the 'four horsemen' narrative.
making apocalypse merely 'physically' strong will be too boring. they might make his abilities more in-line with onslaught that would actually be pretty cool.
as for the four horsemen; would love for them to somehow introduce archangel. i could see gambit being a horseman, maybe caliban, too?
Be great if they brought Sinister into it, too. they could have him in disguise as a geneticist as Dr.Nathaniel Essex.
aaahhhh the possibilities.
Also, please have magneto literally rip him in half at the end (for that guilty AoA pleasure)
Gambit is going to have to be in it, seeing as he's getting his own movie.
Reading through the synopsis of AoA, they're not going to touch ANY of that. It would need a new timeline, a bunch of deaths, and a bunch of characters they don't have.
He also skipped X2 (Back in the early 2000's, he didn't want to make a cameo in every Marvel movie whenever he could), First Class, The Wolverine (says he's too old for overseas filming now, which both movies did), and all the Blade, Ghost Rider and Punisher movies (He had the rule of not doing cameos for movies of characters he didn't create (or in the case of Cap, redefine), but this year, he broke the rule by confirming a cameo in Guardians of the Galaxy, so yeah.)
Speaking of the next Apocalypse movie, i wonder what kind of plot they'll go with.
i really don't think they're going to touch AoA. that's way too complex and requires the death of a main character to start off with.
if anything i think they're just going to roll out the 'four horsemen' narrative.
making apocalypse merely 'physically' strong will be too boring. they might make his abilities more in-line with onslaught that would actually be pretty cool.
as for the four horsemen; would love for them to somehow introduce archangel. i could see gambit being a horseman, maybe caliban, too?
Be great if they brought Sinister into it, too. they could have him in disguise as a geneticist as Dr.Nathaniel Essex.
aaahhhh the possibilities.
Also, please have magneto literally rip him in half at the end (for that guilty AoA pleasure)
I agree with the theories that Wolverine will be turned into one of his horsemen and maybe get his adamantium from there. It'd be an interesting view on the character that we haven't seen before.
Weird thing is though is that we kinda know how it all turns out...right? All the X-Men get together, future's okay.... right? Because in the future Logan wakes up to, they must've faced off against Apocalypse already.
Miles Quaritch
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This was the problem with the ending. They've established that everything is okay (well, everything inside the school is okay at least), so they are somewhat limited by what can happen in Apocalypse.
I thought their dialogue was mostly awful and their on again off again relationship drama annoyed me more than anything.
Best line in ASM2 just due to delivery:
Peter: "I was sweeping the chimney."
May: "We don't have a chimney."
Peter: "Whaaaaaaat."
This was so stupid, I still cant belive they really let him say this.
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I just realized having showed us (young) Charles being able to project himself as standing in Raven's mind, solves the continuity issue of him walking in X3's flashback scene (and a scene in Origins); it was just a projection.
That, or magic serum (although supposedly he wouldn't be able to use his powers, like he was in the X3 and Origins scenes, but whatever).
That, or magic serum (although supposedly he wouldn't be able to use his powers, like he was in the X3 and Origins scenes, but whatever).
I'm now very interested to see how they handle Quicksilver's powers in Avengers 2, compared to this one. From the trailers for DOFP I thought it looked pretty lame, but when seen in the film his super speed was pretty great, and the slow motion scene was probably the best in the movie.
It worked for me. He was stuck and tried thinking of any excuse, and aunt May let it slide because "that's Peter." Seemed pretty teenager-esque. I dug it.
Doesn't explain his chumminess with Eric. Also doesn't explain why he'd need to project himself in the first place. It's not like this dire situation to stop Mystique or anything. Hell, his "projection" gets out of Eric's car. Did he have fake-Charles take the whole car ride?
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It was weird, Quicksilver's slow motion scene looked so bright and clear and sharp and 3D.
It's like I was watching a good quality 720p rip up to the point and suddenly they switched to a 4K file!
When it ended I was like "oh, no, why can't the whole movie look like that". I guess that's a super bright set and 3600 fps for ya.
It's like I was watching a good quality 720p rip up to the point and suddenly they switched to a 4K file!
When it ended I was like "oh, no, why can't the whole movie look like that". I guess that's a super bright set and 3600 fps for ya.
The movie made QS look extremely powerful. Outside of someone messing with his mind, who could stop him? When you think about it, he comes off as the most powerful guy in the whole movie. He could make almost anything happen.
Messypandas
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QS came off as the most powerful dude so far in the XMU. Considering those bullets were inches away from their heads before he stopped them, Charles and Eric were basically dead before he intervened. Lucky they took him and not Young Juggernaught.
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There's no perfect explanation, only good enough ones.
As for his relationship with Eric, to me it seems these guys had periods of truce as they are frenemies.
Messypandas
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Charles said he met Erik when he was 17 in X-men but he was 24 in first class. There are just details that will never add up.
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Some of the continuity issues can be bypassed, others like the one you posted, they cannot.
BTW Charles was 30 in First Class, the credits wrongly had his age listed as 24.
Messypandas
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Really so he was 40 in DOFP?
So that means Mystique is at least in her 70's in the OG X-men trilogy. Dem glutes
also the pong game was going bonkers when he was playing it. i assume he has a level of control of what gets sped up and doesn't, otherwise moving the bullets would have hurt.
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