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XB1 Elite Controller ($150)

Soo expensive, and I would miss having colour in my buttons, I honestly still use the colour some times when its a QTE or something.

I'll wait for a cool 'regular' controller I think, gimme a gold one please MS. :(
 
I'm still going to use the adapter for easy volume controls. That won't degrade the headset sound quality at all, would it?

Nope. I'm still going to use it as well and then switch over to the chat pad/adapter when that releases.

So not sure if you are aware but the 3.5mm jack on the controller provides mic monitoring so you can hear your own voice as well. The adapter does not. Not sure about the chatpad but I hope it does as I loved the chatpad on 360 and am looking forward to this one.
 
So not sure if you are aware but the 3.5mm jack on the controller provides mic monitoring so you can hear your own voice as well. The adapter does not. Not sure about the chatpad but I hope it does as I loved the chatpad on 360 and am looking forward to this one.

No. I didn't know this. Reading about it now. Thanks.
 
So not sure if you are aware but the 3.5mm jack on the controller provides mic monitoring so you can hear your own voice as well. The adapter does not. Not sure about the chatpad but I hope it does as I loved the chatpad on 360 and am looking forward to this one.

I knew the native jack had monitoring but I did not know it cancels out when you plug in the adapter. That sucks!
 
I knew the native jack had monitoring but I did not know it cancels out when you plug in the adapter. That sucks!

Are you using the first party headset adapter or the turtle beach adapter? I believe the turtle beach adapter allows for mic monitoring, but I'm not sure about the difference in volume levels and sound quality. I know that this was improved on the 3.5mm jack vs the standard MS headset adapter.

This turtle beach adapter offers controls and mic monitoring:

http://www.turtlebeach.com/product-...sories/ear-force-headset-audio-controller/644
 
So not sure if you are aware but the 3.5mm jack on the controller provides mic monitoring so you can hear your own voice as well. The adapter does not. Not sure about the chatpad but I hope it does as I loved the chatpad on 360 and am looking forward to this one.

Excuse the ignorance. Mic monitoring? Why would I want to hear my own voice?
 
There are pictures of the 3.5 jack on the new controller.

Excuse the ignorance. Mic monitoring? Why would I want to hear my own voice?

If you are playing with headphones that block a lot of sound *out* you can easily start talking a lot louder because you can sense yourself.
 
There are pictures of the 3.5 jack on the new controller.



If you are playing with headphones that block a lot of sound *out* you can easily start talking a lot louder because you can sense yourself.

I Guess the person is just looking at it as say talking on a phone..it's not needed for that so why would it be needed for a modern day headset? Just curious i guess
 
I Guess the person is just looking at it as say talking on a phone..it's not needed for that so why would it be needed for a modern day headset? Just curious i guess
It's not the same thing. Have you ever been to a concert where you can barely hear the sound of your own voice? It's the reason singers use in ear monitors.
 
Are you using the first party headset adapter or the turtle beach adapter? I believe the turtle beach adapter allows for mic monitoring, but I'm not sure about the difference in volume levels and sound quality. I know that this was improved on the 3.5mm jack vs the standard MS headset adapter.

This turtle beach adapter offers controls and mic monitoring:

http://www.turtlebeach.com/product-...sories/ear-force-headset-audio-controller/644

hmmm thanks. I'm using default but I'll keep this in mind.
 
Thought about this in another thread, the Dashboard thread, but... If you can remap all of these buttons in games, do you think that MS will allow us to map a button to specific actions like taking a screenshot or recording a video? With Kinect being buried, the Double Tap -> X button works okay, but it's slow and kind of unreliable, and I'd love to be able to map one of those new paddles to take a screenshot or record a video.

Anybody heard of anything like this? If not, hopefully MS is listening... It'd make it even more attractive for me.

I Guess the person is just looking at it as say talking on a phone..it's not needed for that so why would it be needed for a modern day headset? Just curious i guess

I don't think it matters much, but if you've ever sung/spoken into a microphone you appreciate hearing your voice come back at you with a monitor. It's disorienting to not hear yourself.
 
Thought about this in another thread, the Dashboard thread, but... If you can remap all of these buttons in games, do you think that MS will allow us to map a button to specific actions like taking a screenshot or recording a video? With Kinect being buried, the Double Tap -> X button works okay, but it's slow and kind of unreliable, and I'd love to be able to map one of those new paddles to take a screenshot or record a video.

Anybody heard of anything like this? If not, hopefully MS is listening... It'd make it even more attractive for me.



I don't think it matters much, but if you've ever sung/spoken into a microphone you appreciate hearing your voice come back at you with a monitor. It's disorienting to not hear yourself.

Maybe... the chatpad will support custom mapped buttons for screenshots, etc. But not until mid-2016. So I don't think we will hear about any support for the elite controller until then
 
a regular controller costs around 18$ to make and ship.
I wonder what the margin is on this particular item..

R&D, Marketing, General overhead (accounting, building power, machine depreciation), etc...

A BOM isn't coming close at all to telling you about the profit margin.

This device is 100% more likely to have a higher profit margin per unit because they aren't expecting to push a large volume.

No need to pretend MS is the evil one here for trying to be a business.
 
R&D, Marketing, General overhead (accounting, building power, machine depreciation), etc...

A BOM isn't coming close at all to telling you about the profit margin.

This device is 100% more likely to have a higher profit margin per unit because they aren't expecting to push a large volume.

No need to pretend MS is the evil one here for trying to be a business.
150 with zero wireless is evil to me.
 
If you have a dedicated desktop gaming pc a dongle may not be a huge deal, but if you have a laptop its more cumbersome.

Also, I typically just use my controller still linked to my xbone when I stream to my laptop, but if I go too far I have to plug it into the laptop via USB. It would be dope if we didn't have to use a dongle for that but since MS uses their own wireless setup for the controller I wasn't expecting it. It would still be nice not to have a wire attached so I may get the dongle anyway.
 
Polygon just posted that it's coming out October 27th. I wish it was coming out earlier so that I could play around with it a little bit before Halo's release.
 
Well the 27th sucks as Amazon isn't offering release day or even 1-day shipping for the pre-order. So that's two miserable days of playing H5 without it.
 
Still debating if I should buy it or not, its almost $200 after tax in Canada :( but I really want it. I am already spending 135$ on Halo 5 limited edition though. Thats too much spending on 1 day.
 
Still debating if I should buy it or not, its almost $200 after tax in Canada :( but I really want it. I am already spending 135$ on Halo 5 limited edition though. Thats too much spending on 1 day.

Unless there's something about the limited edition that you've just got to have I would step down that pre-order to the regular edition and get the Elite controller.
 
Soo expensive, and I would miss having colour in my buttons, I honestly still use the colour some times when its a QTE or something.

I'll wait for a cool 'regular' controller I think, gimme a gold one please MS. :(

honestly... i wish they would have done the desaturated greyscale buttons like in the 360 controller... that was seriously the coolest design choice.

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Basically what the colors would look like if you made them greyscale... (not just "grey" but the shade of grey you would get by removing the color information...)
 
I hope Gamestop breaks the street date like they have for special edition controllers in the past. I need this in my hands for 11 central on Halo night.
 
Oct 27 is fine by me, but GameStop here in Scandinavia says they'll get it on October 15. Either we're getting it earlier than America or GameStop are wrong on their date.
 
R&D, Marketing, General overhead (accounting, building power, machine depreciation), etc...

A BOM isn't coming close at all to telling you about the profit margin.

This device is 100% more likely to have a higher profit margin per unit because they aren't expecting to push a large volume.

No need to pretend MS is the evil one here for trying to be a business.

Yea, and listing off a bunch of expenses MS would incur with or without this controllers existence doesn't tell you anything about the profit margin either. This thing has basically zero effect on those general costs of MS at large. They did not new hire teams of new people to develop, market, and number crunch an Elite controller. This was no doubt done entirely by their existing E&D resources, who were/are between projects, and will most likely be built on some slightly retooled or expanded OG Xbone controller assembly. No need to pretend MS is a hero losing money and creating jobs for trying to create Elite controller.
 
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