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Xbox 360 Elite officially announced. GameSpot Feature
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civilstrife
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I like my 360, don't get me wrong.
I just feel like it's a big money sink. Between the Live charges, increased game prices over last gen, expensive controllers and absolutely ridiculous accessory pricing, I feel like I can never truly enjoy the console to its fullest.
There's always one less controller than I need, one more awesome game that I can't afford, one month over my Live subscribtion. I'd love to move it into the Living room for the better TV and seating, but oops, I don't have Ethernet in there. Guess I have to spring for the $129 Canadian wireless adapter. No, it's simply not going to happen. So it's my basement console. My oft neglected, dust collecting basement console.
The whole thing just screams "We will make this system profitable if it kills you!"
/end unrelated rant
Edit: Forgot to mention Microtransactions and the pretty much neccessary extended warranty.
I just feel like it's a big money sink. Between the Live charges, increased game prices over last gen, expensive controllers and absolutely ridiculous accessory pricing, I feel like I can never truly enjoy the console to its fullest.
There's always one less controller than I need, one more awesome game that I can't afford, one month over my Live subscribtion. I'd love to move it into the Living room for the better TV and seating, but oops, I don't have Ethernet in there. Guess I have to spring for the $129 Canadian wireless adapter. No, it's simply not going to happen. So it's my basement console. My oft neglected, dust collecting basement console.
The whole thing just screams "We will make this system profitable if it kills you!"
/end unrelated rant
Edit: Forgot to mention Microtransactions and the pretty much neccessary extended warranty.
Cold-Steel
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HokieJoe said:
That's a useless point.
First off - the South Park episode is free. People eat up free stuff. No wonder they're downloading it!
Put up numbers of something media-related on the Marketplace being downloaded anywhere near the numbers of that South Park episode AND paying for it. Good luck.
BenjaminBirdie said:
You know, this is bullshit. Check this out;
http://www.amazon.com/b/ref=vg_nav_...f_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=278342301&pf_rd_i=14210751
If I want a 20gigPS3, its more expensive then the 60gig PS3, but it doesnt have wifi? Am I losing my ****ing mind here?
WTF. So If I get the premium 360, I have to pay 88$ to get wifi. Cost 488$ 20gigps3 719$ no wifi+bluray. Or 599$ for 60gigPS3+wifi+bluray, but no gears or lost planet.
Is there any way I dont get my anus beaten to a pulp here?
BenjaminBirdie
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LuCkymoON said:
Don't bother. I've tried. And tried. And tried.
Omar Ismail
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I actually love the replaceable HDD on the PS3. Fantastic move by Sony. HOWEVER, it's not just the 100GB HDD. It's the hardware + service. Sure you can put a 500GB hdd inside your PS3, but where's the downloadable HD movie service? Where are the deals with Comedy Central, ADV, etc etc?CrushDance said:
Apple has showed the world that it's not just about hardware. It's not just about software. It's about hardware + software. iPod + iTunes. Video Marketplace + Xbox 360 Elite.
And people talking about a missing HD-DVD drive are totally missing the point! MS doesn't care about HD-DVD, they just did that as an FU to Sony pretty much. MS cares about the Video Marketplace. This is the service that they're driving, that they control, where they control the revenue, the business deals, and the delivery system, etc.
Mr_Furious
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I don't know either but you have to admit. Even at a $120 diff you get a BluRay, PS2, PS1, WiFi & free PSN. I'd say that's a pretty good value.LuCkymoON said:
FirstInHell
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LuCkymoON said:
It apparently has WiFi, a detachable penis and hard drive, BLUE RAY, more power, and SixAxis. Apparently it is also available at every major retailer in MASSIVE quantities.
soul creator
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civilstrife said:
You know, you can use an wireless ethernet bridge. And they're all much less than the official wireless adapter.
BenjaminBirdie
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moku said:
Dude. I know. The whole thing's gone pear shaped. I'm just glad I've already grabbed my console and can hide in nem Shivering Isles until the storm clears.
My Chemical Mouse
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In all honesty, i'm selling my Xbox 360 Premium on Ebay...you can still rake in about $350 if you add a few games (PDZero, Kameo, ect..), and then i'll buy this sucker the day it's released along with Gears of War (The Ps3 launch distracted me from getting this earlier.)
The bigger HDD is awesome, but i'd rather get a brand new console for aroun $120~ than sticking with my year old 360 and just adding on a new HDD for $179.
The bigger HDD is awesome, but i'd rather get a brand new console for aroun $120~ than sticking with my year old 360 and just adding on a new HDD for $179.
FirstInHell said:
:lol :lol Holy shit. :lol :lol
I guess when you deal with MS, you're used to be ****ed over. There's no reason the 360 should be as shitty as it is, the Xbox wasn't. The 360 is gimped, cheaply and poorly made because it was rushed, it's as plain as that. Stop trying to defend MS's shortcomings. They do some things right, but the 360's design was not one of them.
Besides, MS doesn't fix everyone's for free. $160 for something that's their fault. You'd at least think the Elite would come with a towel.
CrushDance
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FirstInHell said:
Keep going, just keep climbing higher.
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Anyway people need to calm down. You have a very good choice here, either you get the "normal" xbox or you get the elite if you really want HDMI, why does it matter? You can buy the 120GB drive and add on to your regular 360 if you want more space.
Or you could get the PS3 for $599 for slightly more and have all of that.
It's a simple choice no need to complain or bitch, if you don't like it then don't buy them abd send a message to the company.
For me I've been wanting a PS3 anyway so it doesn't affect me in any way. Stay level headed and decide. #60 has the games at the moment so you actually do benefit.
BenjaminBirdie
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Xellos said:
The jury's still out on whether or not it's really been phased out. It's just really scarce right now. But that could change.
Omar Ismail said:
More than that it's a 'Platform'. You'll notice MS is always really careful to refer to the "Xbox 360 Platform"
That's why they're always saying the 'Platform' is expandable (ie they can add HDMI, add a blu ray drive if they wanted, whatever) They don't think of (and don't want the consumer really) to think of the 360 as this one box. It's a branding thing.
That being said however... this SKU is just weird, unless there's some master business plan thats just so ****ing genius I can't fathom it right now.
I'm sure as shit they'll try and get out a $249 core this holiday. 8 months of solid titles plus a $249 system would be a brilliant move.
How a $480 console fits into that.. I dunno. Other than to make sure the consumer doesn't think of the Xbox brand as 'too cheap' while Sony's pimping the luxury angle.
I know they're pushing the whole movie / tv show download thing, I just think it would have made a more cohesive vision to the consumer if they'd done this along with the IPTV launch.
Well ****.
I seriously dont know what to do now. I really want a 360, I just dont want to get D.P'ed for wifi. the 20gig PS3 sounds great for only 12$ more for bluray, but once again no wifi.
It sounds like 60gigPS3 or bust. I just have to suck it up and accept the loss of Lost Planet/Gears/Dead Rising, e.t.c.
Why doesnt the elite have wifi?
Does the damn 60gigPS3 at least have HDMI FFS?
I seriously dont know what to do now. I really want a 360, I just dont want to get D.P'ed for wifi. the 20gig PS3 sounds great for only 12$ more for bluray, but once again no wifi.
It sounds like 60gigPS3 or bust. I just have to suck it up and accept the loss of Lost Planet/Gears/Dead Rising, e.t.c.
Why doesnt the elite have wifi?
Does the damn 60gigPS3 at least have HDMI FFS?
After reading the interview with this guy, I can only laugh.
He said that this new sku is meant for the first time Xbox 360 buyer, that's why there's no transfer cable for the hard drive.
Funny thing is, its the current user base that has been screaming for HDMI and a bigger hard drive. Those people get to pony up an additional $500 bucks for the things that should have been in the console to start with.
He said that this new sku is meant for the first time Xbox 360 buyer, that's why there's no transfer cable for the hard drive.
Funny thing is, its the current user base that has been screaming for HDMI and a bigger hard drive. Those people get to pony up an additional $500 bucks for the things that should have been in the console to start with.
FirstInHell
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LuCkymoON said:
I for one have no issues with paying 29.99-34.99 for a DVD movie.
CrushDance
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WOW. You do know that the service is starting in a months time right? Tell me how fast Xbox games began going online from launch. By later this year both Sony and Nintendo will have made big strides in their online service.Speevy said:
BenjaminBirdie
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moku said:
Yes.
cheekymunky
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Odysseus said:
Well, it does finally show that Sony and MS seem to be more interested in the multimedia side of next-gen than the gaming side. Sony has so much riding on Blue Ray, MS has so much riding on the videos (and music is sure to come) on Marketplace.....it does seem that Nintendo is in a good position on the gaming side...hell, next gen we might even see a Hi Def Wii.
Speevy said:
If the best version was on a system that just came out and isn't as easy to develop for than the one that's been out since 2005, there'd be something wrong.
Oblivion is just the first of many superior PS3 versions. 50GB discs and a standard HDD will go a long way with next-gen. The best and most impressive PS2 games were not the ones that came out around launch, compare God of War II to Red Faction, the PS2's come a long way and the PS3 will as well.
.moku said:
Not a cable in the box, but it is a standard connection so you can get a cheap cable at monoprice.
http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10240&style=
Anywhere from 5 to 20 bucks.
Jonnyboy117
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VOOK said:I think Im gonna pick up a Tard Pack second hand for el cheapo and just buy a 120GIG hdd seperate
That's the only sensible solution until MS drops the price on all three SKUs. As for me, I'll still be waiting for that price drop before I buy anything from this company. $180 hard drives, **** you Microsoft. I'm voting with my dollars.
CrushDance said:
Sure. It's still pretty funny that there aren't any Wii games online yet.
Mech Assault. October 2002. 11 months from launch.
I'm sure, but virtually every single Xbox 360 and PS3 game is somehow connected to online gaming or community. I don't suspect that will ever be true of the Wii.
PistolGrip
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People can't seem to understand the fault in this announcement.
When it comes to comsumer electronics there is one variable that kills all:
MARKETING. This announcement kills the small chance they had to win the marketing war against Sony.
360 Premium it was nice knowing ya! (people who want an xbox will get the Elite instead or will hold out since no one wants the inferior product. Just look at the 20G PS3)
When it comes to comsumer electronics there is one variable that kills all:
MARKETING. This announcement kills the small chance they had to win the marketing war against Sony.
360 Premium it was nice knowing ya! (people who want an xbox will get the Elite instead or will hold out since no one wants the inferior product. Just look at the 20G PS3)
CrushDance
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Look I'm getting a 60gb PS3 and I'll use the wireless but as soon as I feel it's hindering me I'm buying a long cable to drag to my room. It's really up to you, both offer significant value, don't worry over connectivity to much.moku said:
TheDarkKnight774
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moku said:Yeah I just saw that. 100$ for a wireless option? WTF? The damn wifi dongle for the DS was 30$ Good lord. I honestly didnt know about this. Now I'm thinking PS3 becuase by the time I get ****ing done, it'll cost me 488$. 12$ more, and I get Blu-ray.
I didnt read the thread really. Please tell me the 500$ PS3 has wifi. I can only assume as much.
I really want to play Lost Planet/Gears.
if you want the X360 then just wait (if you can) and hope for a price drop this year. The games are still the most important factor.
soul creator
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moku said:
You can buy ANY wireless ethernet bridge if you don't want to pay for the official adapter.
Seriously. And is a wireless adapter now more important than great games or something? :lol
You're really making a bigger issue than it needs to be.
cheekymunky
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Odysseus said:
add some online multiplayer and I am right there with you.
.....how about not even the gamecube controller. Just realease the damn thing that attaches the classic controller to the Wiimote and we would have it made.
FirstInHell
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Barnolde said:
wow