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Xbox 360 Hard Drive Alternatives?

Did this a few days ago and everything seemed to work fine. Today my brother goes to try to continue playing Fable III and it says save file corrupted :(

I guess I should be able to switch the other hard drive BACK into the machine, grab the save files (not exactly sure how to do that part) and then swap the new drive back in and load the stuff back??? Loving the new drive though, got the 250gb and I have like 110gb left after installing all the games in my library I can see myself wanting to play within a year+
 
Maybe a little off topic but didn't want to start another thread for a pretty simple question.
Friend needs a hard drive. I have my old 20gb that should be empty after transfering everything over to a 120gb. Can he just pop in my old 20gb without an issue and is everything of mine indeed off it if I used the transfer kit to move stuff over?
 
CitizenCope said:
Maybe a little off topic but didn't want to start another thread for a pretty simple question.
Friend needs a hard drive. I have my old 20gb that should be empty after transfering everything over to a 120gb. Can he just pop in my old 20gb without an issue and is everything of mine indeed off it if I used the transfer kit to move stuff over?
Sounds about right. If the drive is not emptied you can just format it through the console.

rhfb said:
Did this a few days ago and everything seemed to work fine. Today my brother goes to try to continue playing Fable III and it says save file corrupted :(

I guess I should be able to switch the other hard drive BACK into the machine, grab the save files (not exactly sure how to do that part) and then swap the new drive back in and load the stuff back??? Loving the new drive though, got the 250gb and I have like 110gb left after installing all the games in my library I can see myself wanting to play within a year+

Don't know if you fixed this, but I think you can just move the save to a memory card through the console and then move it back to the hdd to fix it.
 
Hey guys, see if anyone can help me: I got a 250gb HD from eBay for my 360, and it seems to work ok, but I can't run Xbox originals on it. And I screwed up? The official one is too expensive here in Brazil :( .
 
The Spoony Hou said:
Hey guys, see if anyone can help me: I got a 250gb HD from eBay for my 360, and it seems to work ok, but I can't run Xbox originals on it. And I screwed up? The official one is too expensive here in Brazil :( .

Seems so. I've only ever heard of the official drives working for backwards compatibility.
 
I bought a slim 250gb hard drive off Amazon from HDE for $60. It was formatted already for the console. Popped it in and it was ready to go. No problems at all.

And MS cannot ban your console from live because you are using an alternative hard drive; that's just ridiculous.
 
The Spoony Hou said:
Can't I magically format it with a PC? It should be possible somehow.
Your drive most likely has a section on it called "partition 2" and it's empty, because it was effortless for them to set up the partition while they reflashed the drive, but it takes one more step to put the proper files into that partition, so they don't do it.

You can buy a "transfer kit" from Deal Extreme for about $5. This will connect your Xbox drive to a PC via USB.

Using a program called "Xplorer 360" you can put things on or take them off of any connected Xbox drive. You can either get the files you need by downloading them (I don't know where to find them offhand), or if you have access to any official Microsoft drive (even an old 20 gig) you can copy the files out of that one. Once you have the files, you put them into partition 2 of your drive.

Your drive should be fixed if you do that.

Too bad mine is a fat (tall?) one. Also, are these HDDs official ones?
A good rule of thumb is that nothing from Deal Extreme is ever real. It's all fake.
 
I'm actually going through this process right now, by sheer coincidence. I bought a 250 GB WD Scorpio Black BEKT model from Newegg for $50 (on sale right now!) and cracked open the original 20GB HDD caddy that lives on top of my 360 Phat White model and pulled it out to backup the files to my PC and copy them back onto the hacked 250GB HDD.

For people who are getting endless errors extracting their old saved games and other files from Partition 3 when trying to use Xplorer 360 in Windows 7 (like I was), don't fuck around with Xplorer 360 for extracting the files, use the newer tool Party Buffalo Drive Explorer instead. After you've got the files off the old HDD with PBDE, then you can connect the hacked drive you are using and copy the files onto the hacked drive with Xplorer 360.
 
MikeE21286 said:
My case 360 Slim HDD case JUST came in today from Deal Extreme

Ordered Nov 26 :lol

Yeah, Deals Extreme has so really good prices, but their shipping is super slow. At least the shipping is free.
 
ruby_onix said:
Your drive most likely has a section on it called "partition 2" and it's empty, because it was effortless for them to set up the partition while they reflashed the drive, but it takes one more step to put the proper files into that partition, so they don't do it.

You can buy a "transfer kit" from Deal Extreme for about $5. This will connect your Xbox drive to a PC via USB.

Using a program called "Xplorer 360" you can put things on or take them off of any connected Xbox drive. You can either get the files you need by downloading them (I don't know where to find them offhand), or if you have access to any official Microsoft drive (even an old 20 gig) you can copy the files out of that one. Once you have the files, you put them into partition 2 of your drive.

Your drive should be fixed if you do that.
Now I know what to search for. But, do you recomend buying the cable, or could I open the closure and take out the drive? Then again, it must be a hassle, I guess I'll wait for the cable.

Anyways, many many thanks, you're sexy (or maybe it's just your avatar).

ruby_onix said:
A good rule of thumb is that nothing from Deal Extreme is ever real. It's all fake.
Well, that explain their prices :p.
 
Isn't the hard drive pretty useless if you have 4 gb of built in storage? The DVD drive is quiet now so no need to copy games to the hd and aside from the fact that you can't do online co-op in Halo Reach there's nothing really that you gain by having all that extra space.
 
Synth_floyd said:
Isn't the hard drive pretty useless if you have 4 gb of built in storage? The DVD drive is quiet now so no need to copy games to the hd and aside from the fact that you can't do online co-op in Halo Reach there's nothing really that you gain by having all that extra space.

er...XBLA games? DLC? Movies? Faster loading times on games?
 
FWIW, I just finished my little do-it-yourself HDD upgrade project and my 360 Phat now has a 250GB HDD. The difference between the original 20GB HDD and the 250GB HDD I have now is kind of scary, I've got 214GB of yawning wide-open drive space even after copying all the stuff on my 20GB HDD over to the new drive and I have no idea what to do with it.
 
DRock said:
Don't know if you fixed this, but I think you can just move the save to a memory card through the console and then move it back to the hdd to fix it.
Ya I got it fixed. Had to do some save file juggling though. Pulled a save from the 250gb drive, swapped the 20gb drive back in, put the save file on that drive, copied everything off onto my thumb drive, swapped the 250gb back in and moved all the saves over to the newer drive. I should have just done that in the first place instead of trying to copy everything over with the hard drive tool, but whatever, the 250gb drive is working perfectly now.
 
The Spoony Hou said:
Now I know what to search for. But, do you recomend buying the cable, or could I open the closure and take out the drive? Then again, it must be a hassle, I guess I'll wait for the cable.
If your drive is a clone, it probably doesn't even have torx screws locking it shut, so yeah, if you're moderately computer literate you can take the drive out of the case and put it into your PC temporarily. That would save you a few bucks and some time. Remember to avoid static electricity.

Here's a place where you can get the partition 2 files.
http://digiex.net/downloads/downloa...360-partition-2-download-xbox-1-emulator.html

When I cloned mine, I remember there were a number of warnings about which version of Xplorer to use with which sizes of drives and whatnot, and if you got it wrong you could mess up some things. I managed to get through it without a hitch by just reading threads on the subject and being careful, but like Unknown Soldier suggested, if the Party Buffalo Drive Explorer is better, then you should definitely consider that one. Just read entire threads and pay attention.

Anyways, many many thanks, you're sexy (or maybe it's just your avatar).
It's just the avatar. My avatar is never me, and I like to bring female hotness with me when I go somewhere.
 
ruby_onix said:
If your drive is a clone, it probably doesn't even have torx screws locking it shut, so yeah, if you're moderately computer literate you can take the drive out of the case and put it into your PC temporarily. That would save you a few bucks and some time. Remember to avoid static electricity.
Ah, thanks. I'll give it a look later, then. And thanks for the files.

Just another question: will something bad happen if I format the disc through the console? I suppose it won't fix the problem (or it wouldn't really be a problem), but I'm curious.

ruby_onix said:
It's just the avatar. My avatar is never me, and I like to bring female hotness with me when I go somewhere.
I understand it perfectly :D.
 
I bought a cheap brand new 120gb hardrive off ebay deals of the week and it came with the transfer cable which i wasn't expeting which was nice.

I already bodged my old 20gb into my slim but thought it was time for an upgrade seeming mass effect 2 and forza took up over half my space.
They make those star drive screws so bloody small on the outer shell my set didnt even have one small enough. so i just cracked it open.

Luckily the screws on the metal casing are a decent size so had the screw driver for that

Ive cut a bit of the black foam from the 360's box and squeezed it into the drive bay to hold it in place and stop it wobbling, looks good and not out of place at all.
 
bluemax said:
Are you relegated to 120GB and 250GB sizes? I have two HDDs I'm not using but neither of them are those sizes.
you're limited to *formatting to* 20GB, 60GB, 120GB and 250GB, and it has to be a Western Digital 2.5" BEVS/BEVT series drive, but the drive can be bigger than those sizes. like ifyou used a 160GB WD drive, it would be formatted to 120GB. well, you could also format it to 60 or 20, but that would be silly.
 
The Faceless Master said:
you're limited to *formatting to* 20GB, 60GB, 120GB and 250GB, and it has to be a Western Digital 2.5" BEVS/BEVT series drive, but the drive can be bigger than those sizes. like ifyou used a 160GB WD drive, it would be formatted to 120GB. well, you could also format it to 60 or 20, but that would be silly.

You can also use the WD Black BEKT.
 
Is there any truth to the rumor that MS is banning consoles that are using "tampered" or modified HDDs on the slim? Read on their official forums that they can check model numbers and whatnot, and ban your console if the drives don't match with the SKU.

My 4gb slim is running out of space fast, and I already filled up a 16gb usb by just re-downloading all my old marketplace games. $130 is flat out ridiculous, so I was thinking of getting a cheap 120-250gb old drive on ebay, cracking it open and using it on my slim.
 
evil ways said:
Is there any truth to the rumor that MS is banning consoles that are using "tampered" or modified HDDs on the slim? Read on their official forums that they can check model numbers and whatnot, and ban your console if the drives don't match with the SKU.

I want to know this as well. I see some pretty cheap 4GB X360 Slims on Amazon Warehouse and it's pretty tempting to get one. I'll only do it if I can somehow keep my 120 GB and put it a X360 S.

Seems like it would be easier to ban someone with 120GB HDD on a S model though.
 
A timely topic as I just got my 250GB BEKT in the post today. As far as I understand NO ONE has ever been banned for having a third party hard drive I can't claim this with 100% certainty, but furious googling reveals no such first hand claims from anyone. What they DO ban for it idiots then maniuplating the files on the disk to change gamerscore etc.

To keep backwards compatiblity, the second special partition has to be copied across from an official disk. Weirdly this area is never created when formatting the drive in the 360, and seems to only be preinstalled at the factory. There are places offering it to download if you have no current drive, but of course that is probaly of dubious legality...
 
Strummerjones said:
To keep backwards compatiblity, the second special partition has to be copied across from an official disk. Weirdly this area is never created when formatting the drive in the 360, and seems to only be preinstalled at the factory.
I wanted to confirm this. Thanks.

Apparently DealExtreme had a bug with my order for the adapter *grumble*...
 
I finally got my 250GB hacked drive up and running the past week (after my first enclosure from Deal Extreme went AWOL and I bought another off of a local ebay seller), so I thought I'd post my experiences to help anyone else thinking of doing this.

I followed this guide here, and it was extremely useful. but there were still teething problems not mentioned there, as follows...

Flashing the drive
This ended up being slightly more difficult than I'd anticipated. I was using my old PC with an Abit IL9 Pro motherboard, and it caused errors detecting the drive in hddhacker. I tried messing with all the IDE compatibility setings etc, but they resulted in the drive being invisible to the program. In the end I set it back to defaults and in desperation tried different SATA ports. Plugging it into the first port then made it work fine! I think this is a common problem, make sure the drive is in the first port on your motherboard or it may not be detected. They also seem to recommend turning off any enhanced SATA stuff, but actually this made the drive NOT work for me - those options had to be on.

Backing up the old drive with Xplorer360

I was using an official transfer cable to migrate my stuff from the 360 drive to the PC. I didn't want to take apart my old official 120GB drive in case I want to sell it on etc, so transfer rates were hampered slightly by USB speeds, but it was still pretty quick. My aforementioned old machines was running Windows XP and worked flawelessly, from what I read Xplorer doesn't behave well under Vista onwards with UAC really needing to be turned off. For that reason alone I'd recommend you run Xplorer 360 on a 32bit Windows XP machine only. Oh, it's not mentioned explicitly anywhere in the guide, but you want the EXTRACT command to copy files off the drive.

One important caveat - I'd stuck a spare 1TB drive I was migrating from my NAS in to hold all the Xbox data, which I used as the destination drive in Xplorer 360. Seems sound, BUT Xplorer DOESN'T copy the data straight there. It seems to copy it all to Windows' temp directory and THEN move it across, in the same way e.g. Internet Explorer handles downloads. Luckily I still had enough space on the system drive, but if for example, you are copying across 100GB of data and your system drive only has 20gb of space left, I assume it would fail even if your destination drive does have this much. I'm not sure if there is any smart handling of this. It also meant the process took even longer, as the whopping great file had then to be moved from my system drive to the 1TB drive after being backed up.

Restoring data to the new hard drive

This is where I had the most problems. First of all - it took AGES. Backing up data doesn't take too long, but it seems the program has to do clever stuff when copying it back, so do not expect regular Windows speeds for copying data. As an example, my 256MB profile took around thirty minutes to restore, and my entire 120GB or so of data took a good ten hours or so constant copying. Another reason why you don't want to run on Vista onwards where freezes are apparently common.

I had the drive running with just the Backwards compatiblity partition (as mentioned in the post before you MUST copy this off an official MS drive, it is NOT recreated when you format a drive) and my profile and it worked fine, but I realised I had huge amounts of DLC etc for retail games that would take me an age to redownload and even remember what I had, frankly, so I copied my whole games folder. This was a big mistake. Not only did this mean it took hours as mentioned above, but there was a further problem. Before you copy data from your old drive, DELETE all installed games - they will NOT work on the new drive, the system will detect it is from a different disk and tell you to reinstall them. As it was, copying those huge 9GB game images was nothing but a massive waste of my time. XBLA games are fine of course, I'm talking about retail games.

Oh, another hint using Xplorer 360, the GUI is peculiar, and injecting folders by right clicking on what in Windows would normally be considered the parent folder does NOT work properly. The guy explains how to do it in the guide, but I didn't pay attention and copied my profile to the wrong place as a result. The delete function repreatedly crashed the program, so I ended up sticking the drive in the 360 and formatting it again to reclaim the space. Dragging and dropping from Windows into the right hand pane seemed to work well for getting file structure correct (this also apparently doesn't work right in Vista/Win 7 without turning off UAC and/or praying, so another reason to again do all this on an XP machine).

Anyway, the end result was a new drive that so far seems to work flawlessly. In theory it should make things a bit faster as the BEKT is a faster drive than the stock 360 one, and all the contiguous blocks of free space compared to my near-bursting 120GB disk should also help. I haven't been banned or anything (touch wood), and and my old saves all seem to work so far. The only problem I had was with Xbox1 stuff. The emulator works fine, but my saves seem corrupted. They are there, but e.g. Ninja Gaiden Black shows my save as being "damaged" and won't load it. I only had a few Xbox 1 games which I'd beaten long ago so I'm not bothered, but others might not be too pleased by this. I don't know if this is a common problem or I'm just unlucky, I guess I could try backing them up from my old drive by USB.
 
My Xbox (old model) is dying, and I can't find an Arcade model anymore. I don't want to buy the 250gb because is too expensive. According to the guide posted earlier I can connect the disk into the slim without adaptors or anything. Âżis the disk ready to run in the Slim or do I need to flash it?
 
vixlar said:
My Xbox (old model) is dying, and I can't find an Arcade model anymore. I don't want to buy the 250gb because is too expensive. According to the guide posted earlier I can connect the disk into the slim without adaptors or anything. Âżis the disk ready to run in the Slim or do I need to flash it?

If the drive was working in your old Xbox it's good to go. The flashing part is only for making non-official disks look like official ones. If it already is official you don't need to do any of that (in fact you will likely wreck it doing so!). The only caveat I've read is that there is some sort of holder thing in the slim that keeps the drive in place, without it it is loose in the system and can get knocked around etc. I'm sure you can get third party ones from e.g. Deal Extreme already for next to nothing. Oh, also you will need a torx screwdriver to open the screws on the old Xbox hard drive enclosure to get the old drive out.

Edit: Actually, re-reading your post, are you trying to use your old hard drive in the slim, or add a new non-official 250GB one in there? If it is the latter, then you MUST flash it, you just need a different enclosure for it (or even none at all - it just holds the drive in place, unlike the fat 360 drive case).
 
Strummerjones said:
If the drive was working in your old Xbox it's good to go. The flashing part is only for making non-official disks look like official ones. If it already is official you don't need to do any of that (in fact you will likely wreck it doing so!). The only caveat I've read is that there is some sort of holder thing in the slim that keeps the drive in place, without it it is loose in the system and can get knocked around etc. I'm sure you can get third party ones from e.g. Deal Extreme already for next to nothing. Oh, also you will need a torx screwdriver to open the screws on the old Xbox hard drive enclosure to get the old drive out.

Thanks a lot :-)

Now, to get that screwdriver, hehe.
 
Strummerjones said:
I finally got my 250GB hacked drive up and running the past week (after my first enclosure from Deal Extreme went AWOL and I bought another off of a local ebay seller), so I thought I'd post my experiences to help anyone else thinking of doing this.

I followed this guide here, and it was extremely useful. but there were still teething problems not mentioned there, as follows...
It's too late to be of use to you, but Party Buffalo Drive Explorer is supposedly much better than Xplorer and deals with some of the problems you bumped into (I haven't used it myself).

And yeah, moving around saves/installs/DLC is a pain on the 360 (cloned drive or no cloned drive). I was lucky in that I didn't have anything important I needed to carry over when I made my drive, so I just started over from scratch.
 
ruby_onix said:
It's too late to be of use to you, but Party Buffalo Drive Explorer is supposedly much better than Xplorer and deals with some of the problems you bumped into (I haven't used it myself).

Ouch. I remember reading up and even downloading that about 6 months ago when I was first going to do this, but completely forgot about it once I actually sat down to do it for real. Oh well, at the very least it shall prove handy for injecting Japan only demos onto usb sticks in future. Thanks!
 
Im gonna post in this thread so I don't have to make a new one but I have a question regarding the Xbox 360 hard drives. So my third 360 red ringed and I purchased a 250 gb fat model.I had my existing 20 gig hard drive and I transferred my account onto my new one so I could have my account on the new one as well for achievements and whatnot and both hard drives on the one console (saves and whatnot on the other). Now with my one hard drive I am not bale to sign into xbox live and since my 20 gb hard drive isnt the one that came with the new console all my arcade games are now trials because I cannot connect to xbox live to have access to them.

Not sure if anyone else is having this problem but how can I access Xbox live on my one hard drive I really rather not spend 40.00 for the transfer kit being its my 4th Xbox and I'm kind of tired of investing in it. I have multiple hard drives from each system but I have pretty much used the one hard drive till now.
 
Cmagus said:
Im gonna post in this thread so I don't have to make a new one but I have a question regarding the Xbox 360 hard drives. So my third 360 red ringed and I purchased a 250 gb fat model.I had my existing 20 gig hard drive and I transferred my account onto my new one so I could have my account on the new one as well for achievements and whatnot and both hard drives on the one console (saves and whatnot on the other). Now with my one hard drive I am not bale to sign into xbox live and since my 20 gb hard drive isnt the one that came with the new console all my arcade games are now trials because I cannot connect to xbox live to have access to them.

Not sure if anyone else is having this problem but how can I access Xbox live on my one hard drive I really rather not spend 40.00 for the transfer kit being its my 4th Xbox and I'm kind of tired of investing in it. I have multiple hard drives from each system but I have pretty much used the one hard drive till now.

You didn't use the online transfer license tool?

https://live.xbox.com/ConsoleLicenseTransfer/Begin

Also, you can move everything (well, almost) from one console to another using a USB flash drive (up to 16GB)
 
Cmagus said:
Im gonna post in this thread so I don't have to make a new one but I have a question regarding the Xbox 360 hard drives. So my third 360 red ringed and I purchased a 250 gb fat model.I had my existing 20 gig hard drive and I transferred my account onto my new one so I could have my account on the new one as well for achievements and whatnot and both hard drives on the one console (saves and whatnot on the other). Now with my one hard drive I am not bale to sign into xbox live and since my 20 gb hard drive isnt the one that came with the new console all my arcade games are now trials because I cannot connect to xbox live to have access to them.

Not sure if anyone else is having this problem but how can I access Xbox live on my one hard drive I really rather not spend 40.00 for the transfer kit being its my 4th Xbox and I'm kind of tired of investing in it. I have multiple hard drives from each system but I have pretty much used the one hard drive till now.
Only one active instance of an Xbox Live enabled profile can exist, so if you've got the gamertag on both hard drives, that's why it's not working. If you move your gamertag to a USB stick, you'll be able to use either hard drive without any problems.
 
Ah cool good to hear.No I didn't know there was an online tool when I put the new hardrive on it asked if I wanted to update profile and it did some kind of transfer or whatever i'll look into both ideas thanks
 
can I transfer a save file from Super Meat Boy that is currently on the internal 4GB of my Slim 360 and put it onto a USB drive?

and then in the future, play SMB on my 360 and have it save to the USB?

AND when I go to my friend's house, can I load up my gamer profile, download SMB to his console, and then stick my USB drive in and load my save file?
 
Futureman said:
can I transfer a save file from Super Meat Boy that is currently on the internal 4GB of my Slim 360 and put it onto a USB drive?

and then in the future, play SMB on my 360 and have it save to the USB?

AND when I go to my friend's house, can I load up my gamer profile, download SMB to his console, and then stick my USB drive in and load my save file?
Yes, yes and yes. Move (rather than copy) all of your saves and gamertag(s) to the USB stick, then you can access them on any 360 you want. Content can be directly accessed from the USB stick, so you don't have to ever move your saves off there when you're using different consoles.

If you re-download SMB on your friend's console it will only work while you're signed into Live with your gamertag as it's you that bought it, so when you go home and take your USB stick with you, the game will revert to a trial version unless your friend also buys it.
 
surly said:
Yes, yes and yes. Move (rather than copy) all of your saves and gamertag(s) to the USB stick, then you can access them on any 360 you want. Content can be directly accessed from the USB stick, so you don't have to ever move your saves off there when you're using different consoles.

If you re-download SMB on your friend's console it will only work while you're signed into Live with your gamertag as it's you that bought it, so when you go home and take your USB stick with you, the game will revert to a trial version unless your friend also buys it.

wait, kinda confused about the last part...

so are you saying I shouldn't sign in and redownload SMB on my friend's console? If I have everything on a USB stick, he can stay signed in on his gamertag, I can just plug in my stick and SMB will show up on his console and we can play my save file?
 
Futureman said:
wait, kinda confused about the last part...

so are you saying I shouldn't sign in and redownload SMB on my friend's console? If I have everything on a USB stick, he can stay signed in on his gamertag, I can just plug in my stick and SMB will show up on his console and we can play my save file?
The 360 DRM works like this: -

When you buy SMB, it will work online and offline and with any gamertags on the console originally used to purchase the game, i.e. your 360 in this case.

If you then re-download SMB on another console (your friend's 360) it will only work while you're signed into Live with the gamertag originally used to purchase it (your gamertag), otherwise it will revert to the trial version. This stops you from sharing games with friends on a permanent basis, but still allows you to play your games on different consoles.

So when you go over to your friend's house, pop your USB stick into his 360, sign into Xbox Live with your gamertag and re-download SMB to his console. You can then play the game on his machine, but as soon as you sign out of Live with your gamertag, the game will turn into a trial until the next time you sign in again. This has no effect on your own console, so you can still play SMB online, offline and with any gamertag you like when you're at home on your own machine.
 
Would putting a legit 120 gb hdd in a slim be a bad idea since there are no 120s for slim? In terms of live bannings of it ever happened.

Amazon has 4gb 360s for 199 with 50 GC so I'm pretty tempted
 
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