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xbox 360 to be sealed shut?
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Guy LeDouche
Banned
an unmoddable console. it's the unicorn of the industry.Odnetnin said:
I don't buy it, while I think it will be hard to open the unit up and figure it out , keeping piracy at bay for a few months , talk of sealing the whole system shut seems a little bit unfeasable becuase then you'd have to replace the whole damn thing if something broke.
I think a more likely solution would be building the final internals in such a way that tampering with them yourself or even a modder doing it would easily break important components. I mean aren't modchips normally just a few wires soldered onto various parts on the mother board so that instead of booting normally they load a fake bios up that plays everything while bypassing the region lockout ? make it so if you take the case apart the 2 things that'd have to be soldered togethor get to far apart and there isn't enough room to place a chip anywherewithout taking the entire unit apart.
I would also think that MS has prollybuilt a more secure custom OS for 360 so doing any soft mods will prolly never happen.
I think a more likely solution would be building the final internals in such a way that tampering with them yourself or even a modder doing it would easily break important components. I mean aren't modchips normally just a few wires soldered onto various parts on the mother board so that instead of booting normally they load a fake bios up that plays everything while bypassing the region lockout ? make it so if you take the case apart the 2 things that'd have to be soldered togethor get to far apart and there isn't enough room to place a chip anywherewithout taking the entire unit apart.
I would also think that MS has prollybuilt a more secure custom OS for 360 so doing any soft mods will prolly never happen.
The environmentalist will do their best to rape Microsoft if this happens. This is worse than Divx (the disposable disc kind, not the cool software kind).
In a country where the Centennial Olymipics were being showered with guys running around with dove-shaped kites instead of having actual doves fly in the sky because it would be 'inhumane', how the hell will this pass?
Of course if it does pass, good for them. I just don't see it happening though.
In a country where the Centennial Olymipics were being showered with guys running around with dove-shaped kites instead of having actual doves fly in the sky because it would be 'inhumane', how the hell will this pass?
Of course if it does pass, good for them. I just don't see it happening though.
"The case is going to be sealed up tight using current fireproof safe technology."
seems like a waste of money to actually fireproof the unit for the same of having it sealed... why not just use a normal case, but add a little photodiode + capacitor or something to fry the bios if you open the case? that'd probably be a LOT cheaper than a fireproof case.
seems like a waste of money to actually fireproof the unit for the same of having it sealed... why not just use a normal case, but add a little photodiode + capacitor or something to fry the bios if you open the case? that'd probably be a LOT cheaper than a fireproof case.
The Abominable Snowman
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Furthermore, to make it even more hack-proof, they will not offer or have any ability to upgrade your dash. There will be no savegames so it's going back to the arcade era. There will be no LAN or wireless connections. It will ship sans a DVD drive. For fear that someone may be really smart and use the IR port, they will ship it inside a steel metal safe.
Well i still think this is BS but i think some of you are missing why its a good idea.
You're never gonna stop all the modders, and im sure it would still get hacked, but doing stuff like this deters normal people who may have modded their xboxes just cause it was so easy to do.
Just by making it so that you need more than a screwdriver to mod your console MS would reduce piracy a lot.
You're never gonna stop all the modders, and im sure it would still get hacked, but doing stuff like this deters normal people who may have modded their xboxes just cause it was so easy to do.
Just by making it so that you need more than a screwdriver to mod your console MS would reduce piracy a lot.
seriously though, MS has always embraced piracy. It worked great for them on the OS market. they'd rather have people use pirated windows then linux.
And piracy worked great for getting PS1 marketshare. I bet modded xboxes contributed alot to the popularity of the first Xbox, witch eventually pushed the masses.
I doubt 360 will have *really* tough protection, not like Gamecube had this gen anyway.
The only thing i can see holding off pirates for a while is if the format ends up beeing something with larger capacity then regular dvd (hd-dvd?)
And piracy worked great for getting PS1 marketshare. I bet modded xboxes contributed alot to the popularity of the first Xbox, witch eventually pushed the masses.
I doubt 360 will have *really* tough protection, not like Gamecube had this gen anyway.
The only thing i can see holding off pirates for a while is if the format ends up beeing something with larger capacity then regular dvd (hd-dvd?)
DaCocoBrova
Finally bought a new PSP, but then pushed the demon onto someone else. Jesus.
They look remarkably similar on the inside.
truffleshuffle83
Banned
so this lifetime warranty is a no go??
Nathan Barley
Member
AndreasNystrom
Member
So to get a modded one, you just do a replacement shell with screws, and puts on a modchip ? 
Yeah, that really stopped pirates MS!
Yeah, that really stopped pirates MS!
Outcast2004
Banned
X360 still has those USB ports. You could always have soemthing devised thatuses the USB port as a means t disable the security measures.
If it's digital, it can and will be hacked.
If it's digital, it can and will be hacked.
truffleshuffle83
Banned
i think live will be too crucial for me to mod the 360, i dont want to risk getting booted off again. not only that but with a xbox modded you have pretty much everything you need
erikevrhrd
Junior Member
Cool.
Tell me how that would stop someone from getting inside it though?Ghost said:
Instead of 15 min fucking around trying to open it, it now takes 30min. Bottom line is, it's not sealed shut.
LOL @
"There is no mechanisim to open it. Microsoft is willing to replace entire units if internal parts go bad as long as the box is never hacked."
FortNinety
Member
Sorry, but I just can't get over how fucking big that power supply is...
To be honest, the purpose of my original post with the anandtech link was purely informative (its nice to have a look inside the x360). Even though we have already seen the innards when one of the mod groups opened up the (stolen) dev kits, this is a retail/final box we will have in our homes.hadareud said:
But then I remembered that comment (bs/or true, still funny in light of things)....
Spider_Jerusalem
Member
here's a new gutted shot i found on engadget
http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000050068208/
http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000050068208/