lol, beautiful.
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Xbox One blocks used games. Offline Pass confirmed
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lol, beautiful.
famfrit
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Well, we cant say that MS dont showed a Megaton !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It still serves as an effective tool of alerting us to who we need to add to our ignore list.
GANGSTERKILLER
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Microsoft is in trouble. This is a epic mistake.
I'm shocked, serious.
I'm shocked, serious.
Aquamarine
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I expect a denial of the denial of the claims made by the Xbox rep, by another Xbox rep.
Um, the fact that they have to do something to enable trading and reselling, and it doesn't work the way used games usually work so they have to bring you details later, means THEY BLOCK USED GAMES BY DEFAULT.
Red Blaster
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declines to deny is my new favorite turn of phrase
the most I cant put up with, is that xbox one will be insignificant in power in general, and weaker compared to playstation.
also, for good times sake, I can put up with buying SHIT like kinect instead of better hardware. also, I can put up paying for a machine whose majority of new features are probably worth fucking nothing because I live somewhere in europe that its not the uk, therefore they dont even work.
BUT,
any more fuck-ups than that, like drm, used games, always-on spy cameras and bullshit, and dear xbox, I'm sorry to let you know, but you are getting straight out of my living room, even after those 12 years.
also, for good times sake, I can put up with buying SHIT like kinect instead of better hardware. also, I can put up paying for a machine whose majority of new features are probably worth fucking nothing because I live somewhere in europe that its not the uk, therefore they dont even work.
BUT,
any more fuck-ups than that, like drm, used games, always-on spy cameras and bullshit, and dear xbox, I'm sorry to let you know, but you are getting straight out of my living room, even after those 12 years.
Schobeleth
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Yeah they said this to me:
So.. notice how fee is in asterisks? It could end up being a part of a Gold subscription to play used games.
So.. notice how fee is in asterisks? It could end up being a part of a Gold subscription to play used games.
What does showing games have anything to do whatsoever with what we're talking about?
Unless this is sarcasm, I can't tell.
Bingo. Most folks didn't bother to read the "enable" part of it. you don't have to "enable" something that you have by default.
Didn't gamestop do some positive press for Microsoft a few weeks back? It'll be best to wait and see.
First, GAF isn't a hivemind - you should probably learn that at some point.
Second, this is a major show and a discussion forum exists so that we may discuss news as it appears. Therefore, it only makes sense for a discussion forum about games to have users evaluating the console as it was revealed at the show. It just so happens that it was one of the most miserable conferences of all time. Blame Microsoft for that.
Third, it's Microsoft's choice to focus on fucking tv and how smooth windows move in their OS when revealing a videogame console, and so they also have no one to blame but themselves that people are angered at such a light game focus.
famfrit
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Its a relieve.
Now PS4 can become the next generation "PS2" and everyone will be happy.
The hell is going on...
jamesinclair
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Yeah they said this to me:
So.. notice how fee is in asterisks? It could end up being a part of a Gold subscription to play used games.
Instead of a fee, it will be a tax. Goes into the MS general fund after all.
hardcastlemccormick
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This is a PR debacle that rivals any other miscommunication mess up I've seen in the gaming industry. If they let this stew any longer, it will take the cake.
You'd think with the extra month to plan this reveal, there wouldn't be so much confusion in the message.
The confusion hasn't come from Microsoft, though, it came from Wired.
Phife Dawg
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Ballsy move if it actually turns out to be true.
Even Steam sales are not that good due to regional pricing, the only possible venture would be allowing DD retailers to sell codes world-wide (don't see that happening though).
Competition is always a good thing. Having one dominating console leads to arrogance, see the PS3 release.
Microsoft's sheer greed with this new console is disgusting. I can understand keeping Live going (not that it's right, but it is a big moneymaker for them) but not even being allowed to lend a game to a friend without paying a fee is ridiculous. Imagine not being able to lend out Blu-ray's because of some online check that makes sure you're the real owner. What a bunch of bullshit.
There's no way the fee will be cheap either, otherwise people will just split the game's cost amongst a dozen or so friends. I fully expect it to be 90% of the retail cost. This also allows them to keep games at a higher retail cost for longer now. This move is really going to hurt Microsoft's relationship with retailers and console goers alike.
There's no way the fee will be cheap either, otherwise people will just split the game's cost amongst a dozen or so friends. I fully expect it to be 90% of the retail cost. This also allows them to keep games at a higher retail cost for longer now. This move is really going to hurt Microsoft's relationship with retailers and console goers alike.
Or the asterisks are for emphasis. The idea that there is a fee if you want to play the same disc on multiple consoles without deactivating, but not one if you do deactivate seems likely.
Quadraphonic
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Yeah they said this to me:
So.. notice how fee is in asterisks? It could end up being a part of a Gold subscription to play used games.
Right. In this case, 'fee' means that you are purchasing the rights to the game. So it's not a fee in that respect. The fact the guy had to put it in quotes is downright depressing.
NullPointer
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That would be both hilarious and sad.
I seriously CANNOT FUCKING WAIT to hear more details about Gold.
I want to see how deep the rabbit hole goes.
I really doubt there is any confusion on the matter, just more of Microsoft damage control going on until they can figure out a nice way to frame their decisions. They knew people were up in arms over the whole Adam Orth Twitter fiasco and so far they have not done anything to alleviate concerns brewing for last year.
IrishNinja
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finally, something i can agree with you on
oh wait CRISIS AVERTED
Meus Renaissance
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Then why doesn't their FAQ page explicitly state it under that question? The "We'll allow and share more info on that later" sounds like there is a catch -- that there is another piece of information for this to happen. Why not just state "Yes you can play and resell second hand games"? Why the vagueness?
Deified Data
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Well, that's a concern of the PS5. May the PS4 have a long, fruitful reign.
Well Wired seemed like they were directly quoting Microsoft on the fee part.
They are being cagey about it just like Sony. There will obviously be something up with this.
la flama blanca
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Wired wouldn't publish something that wasn't scanned by MS in their interview though.
Zero-Crescent
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Yeah, Microsoft's damage control has been terrible on this issue. We shouldn't have to go to OXMUK for what might or might not be additional information on the system. They should have been out there the minute the Wired article was published with a statement that outlines their activation system; instead of just putting out a boilerplate "We'll reveal our plans later" statement. That's unacceptable, as considering how fast bad news spreads, they need to make some clarifications now, not "later."
Okay...so what about multiple users on the same system? Do you have to pay a fee for that too?
Not that I am going to buy into this whole set-up; I just wonder how it would handle both me and my kid having our own gamertags on the same system.
Also, I find it hilarious that they are saying that the system doesn't have to be online, but it doesn't sound like I can just buy an xbox and play a game on it without ever connecting it to the internet.
Not that I am going to buy into this whole set-up; I just wonder how it would handle both me and my kid having our own gamertags on the same system.
Also, I find it hilarious that they are saying that the system doesn't have to be online, but it doesn't sound like I can just buy an xbox and play a game on it without ever connecting it to the internet.
spookyfish
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I cannot believe there is STILL no definitive answer.
The fact that Microsoft isn't trying harder to dispel this rumor -- which has been around for months now -- makes me think there is some truth to it.
They keep dancing around it.
The fact that Microsoft isn't trying harder to dispel this rumor -- which has been around for months now -- makes me think there is some truth to it.
They keep dancing around it.
what does this headline even mean?
Xbox One games are locked to Xbox Live accounts, but there's no "pre-owned fee" - report
You'll have to pay a fee to unlock the content for another user
Little Green Yoda
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The asterisks are to highlight the fixed typo from the original tweet. I think.Yeah they said this to me:
So.. notice how fee is in asterisks? It could end up being a part of a Gold subscription to play used games.
stufte
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McValdemar
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Without details could be everything but with a system that allows to full install and not use the disc not even for startup, maybe is just a matter of connect/disconnect the game key to your account.
For sure used games will be tradable.
And, from official tweetter, seems also without fees.
Shame on MS for using the conference to not make clear the rumors we all were concerned about.
strangedopamine
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https://mobile.twitter.com/BrunoMPsn/status/336942785661902848
The screaming cheering clapping was all 100% off speakers lol
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