Its not limited to a single box.
There's most likely a "home" box though.
So can I play a family members game on my own console and under my own profile?
Its not limited to a single box.
There's most likely a "home" box though.
Why do you think ios and android games / apps sell millions?
For me, yes.
I only resell as games are too damn expensive anyway.
I'm not a collector. I don't replay games. I'm all for digital distribution if the price is right. I have no problems paying say up to $40 for the experience of playing a great game once. $60 is pushing it.
I mean, I regularly spend $9.50 (2D matinee) to $18.50 (Imax) to see a movie in the theater in my city, and that's roughly two hours of entertainment. Most games I get at least 10 hours out of, so it's still a pretty good entertainment value if we're talking $40 and under. Hell, even at $60 it can be a great value for something like Skyrim or online games like Borderlands that I'm dropping 80+hours into.
For me, not being a collector, I'm not paying to own a physical game disc. I'm paying for the experience of playing the game. Resell ability I do like, as that's a way to drive the cost of that experience down some. So if we go fully digital with no resell rights, then prices need to come down for me to be ok with it since I lose that outlet for recouping some costs.
But really, as I said earlier, I'd rather just move to a system of just paying monthly fees and having access to any movie I wanted to watch, any game I wanted to play etc. in the cloud. That's something that fits my needs more as I don't want to keep cluttering my life with physical goods since I plan to move around a lot, and even buying individual digital goods is mostly a waste since I so seldom replay a game or rewatch a movie.
But MS is a far cry from that with wanting the same $60 for a restricted copy of a game. That's BS and I can't support that. If Sony does the same, I'm not sure what I'd do. Pick one and just only buy games in $40 and under sales I guess.
They wouldn't do all this egregious shit if they weren't certain Sony was going to follow suit. Dark times.
I can live with everything on that list, being that I don't buy used and don't sell my games, but the 24 hour thing sucks, yes I have Internet all the time, but I live in NYC and my net has been down sometimes due to construction or of such things.
It's straight bullshit, I hate time limits in games, and the actual console has a built in time limit?
What?
PS4 for the fucking win.
31 million Xbox 360 owners never got a Silver or Gold Xbox Live account and hardly ever connected to the internet whatsoever.
31 million
butLOL no big deal guys, it's the future! You buy a physical copy of a thing and don't actually own it! Hurray!
I don't want to express my full disappointment or anger until we get the full view ( SONY's actual plans) but for now I am annoyed.
I was hoping for E3 to show good games for me to consider it, now it has to show INCREDIBLE games for me to consider it.
But Microsoft has marketing money! And the Xbox brand name is huge!
You get those deals on steam because there are no used games or game trading, period.
Can you just go away now, shill?Loaning or renting games wont be available at launch, but we are exploring the possibilities with our partners.
This is a good thing.
Somewhere, in the ivory towers Ballmer, Mattrick, Spencer and Harrison are hiding ...
(Credit to someone who posted this on GAF a few days ago. Can't remember who, though. Please identify yourself, if you like.)
PLEASE let this console be a colossal fucking failure. PLEASE. Send this industry a message that this bullshit is unacceptable.
Loaning or renting games wont be available at launch, but we are exploring the possibilities with our partners.
This is a good thing.
Want to know why those steam deals happen in the first place? Because people can't resell and trade games to people. If people want a game on steam, they have to pay whatever the developer or publisher is charging for the game, meaning money is always going directly to the developer and publisher.
With such extra security and guarantees on their payments, it's no wonder that they will often get aggressive in pricing on some of their older games by selling them for $15, $10, or even less, because they can make a few extra, guaranteed bucks on the side, because there is no used games market to exclude them from reaping those benefits on Steam. The fact that nobody or so few on GAF, a site where we are, I guess, suppose to know more than the average mainstream gamer, gets this is simply mind boggling.
You get those deals on steam because there are no used games or game trading, period.
Remember when Harrison told Kotaku it'd be once every 24 hours and then Microsoft said that was a "potential scenario" lol
Remember when Harrison told Kotaku it'd be once every 24 hours and then Microsoft said that was a "potential scenario" lol
Guys, I would hold off crucifying Microsoft for a few days as I am sure Sony will have something very similar to announce. Sony's policy could be slightly less restrictive, but i do think the option for publishers to block will be present.
And I think we can all think of one publisher which will gladly block the ability to trade in games. You know, the one who recently pretended to be "mr nice guy" by cancelling all their online passes.
Loaning or renting games wont be available at launch, but we are exploring the possibilities with our partners.
This is a good thing.
Basically this is DIVX all over again: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=3Or4nWQpidk#t=106s
Loaning or renting games wont be available at launch, but we are exploring the possibilities with our partners.
This is a good thing.
lolLoaning or renting games wont be available at launch, but we are exploring the possibilities with our partners.
This is a good thing.
Loaning or renting games wont be available at launch, but we are exploring the possibilities with our partners.
This is a good thing.
So it's true.... In a few years time when they cut the servers all your games are worthless and unplayable... fuck that for a laugh! I play games from many a year and choose when to play them!
Remember when Harrison told Kotaku it'd be once every 24 hours and then Microsoft said that was a "potential scenario" lol
I think all of the policies they announced are logical extensions of the fact that this is a digital-only console.
31 million Xbox 360 owners never got a Silver or Gold Xbox Live account and hardly ever connected to the internet whatsoever.
31 million
butLOL no big deal guys, it's the future! You buy a physical copy of a thing and don't actually own it! Hurray!
Can you just go away now, shill?
Loaning or renting games wont be available at launch, but we are exploring the possibilities with our partners.
This is a good thing.
Hmm..I'll just wait you guys out.Want to know why those steam deals happen in the first place? Because people can't resell and trade games to people. If people want a game on steam, they have to pay whatever the developer or publisher is charging for the game, meaning money is always going directly to the developer and publisher.
With such extra security and guarantees on their payments, it's no wonder that they will often get aggressive in pricing on some of their older games by selling them for $15, $10, or even less, because they can make a few extra, guaranteed bucks on the side, because there is no used games market to exclude them from reaping those benefits on Steam. The fact that nobody or so few on GAF, a site where we are, I guess, suppose to know more than the average mainstream gamer, gets this is simply mind boggling.
You get those deals on steam because there are no used games or game trading, period.
I've seen this exact sentiment too many times here lately.What am I reading. These deals happen, because there is no competition? Ok.
Exactly. I'm already curious what year three prices will look like on this thing.Hmm..I'll just wait you guys out.
Remember when Harrison told Kotaku it'd be once every 24 hours and then Microsoft said that was a "potential scenario" lol
It's amazing how people will give up their rights because of price (heck I'm somewhat guilty of it too) but it doesn't change the principle of it. People should fight for their rights because of things like this that will happen over time. They suck you in by starting small but then it gets worse over time.
Loaning or renting games wont be available at launch, but we are exploring the possibilities with our partners.
This is a good thing.
There are lots of physical things you can't resell
PC gaming world has dealt with that for a long time now. Does Gamestop accept my Crysis 3 PC disc for trade in?
Loaning or renting games wont be available at launch, but we are exploring the possibilities with our partners.
This is a good thing.
Oh ok. Sounds kind of shit.Loaning or renting games won’t be available at launch, but we are exploring the possibilities with our partners.
Oh ok. Sounds kind of shittier.Oh wow. I didn't read it all before..
So not only can third party publishers choose to disallow resale, but they can demand a transfer fee if they want. No doubt this will be passed onto the customer via higher game prices.
EA must be loving this right now.