SenjutsuSage
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Think? I know for a fact Albert Pennello was seen walking out of the Walmart in West Palm Beach carrying at LEAST 7 xboxes.
lmao @ "la salta whita"
Mod confirmation!! Albert has some splainin to do!
Think? I know for a fact Albert Pennello was seen walking out of the Walmart in West Palm Beach carrying at LEAST 7 xboxes.
lmao @ "la salta whita"
Are you sure they weren't PS4's?
You're a real inspiration to this thread.
That number is shipped, not sold through. Different figure altogether.
I had doubts at first, when I was entering the thread. But, seeing it come from nelson himself has kind of reinforced it a bit, for me. Although I'd rather wait for NDP numbers. In due time, we'll see if it's true or not, but for now I'm inclined to believe so.I would wait for reputable third party confirmation. Until the numbers are verified this is a release coming from the same people claiming that dedicated servers make the XBone 400% faster; the same company getting sued for lying about sales numbers of other products that had rocky starts. It seems somewhat incongruous to me that they sold through this many while there are XBones still sitting on store shelves in many places. It's certainly not impossible, but at this point I think Microsoft's media comments should be taken with a grain of salt. All of this said, I think it's less likely for Microsoft to try to fudge the truth by a wide margin here given that they know these sales numbers are going to be hotly tracked.
By the time the next console gen rolls around, I think that people will be more open to the idea and it'll be more acceptable (as internet technology will have advanced, probably, by then). But I digress, it makes sense and you're right that we have an entire at least 4 or 5 years ahead of us for things to be worked on and changed. Ballmer and Mattrick stepping down gives me a little hope they'll do better with the console itself next time, but boy I miss J Allard and I hope they get him/someone like him for the next time. I'm disappointed by all the negatives of the console and the executive decisions behind it (all in one, one input, media box, etc.). I feel they did a great job turning everything around though, and I'm happy with all the unique things they have at launch (Killer Instinct is HUGE to me, Sunset Overdrive, Dead Rising 3).Relax, this does not validate the plans they didn't execute, and it doesn't particularly endorse the plans that they did. It validates their launch strategy, and that's as far as it goes. In the grand scheme of things, these sales (PS4, included) are a drop in the bucket for what they'll garner this generation. If consumers are of a mind to reject things about the Xbox One or PS4 that they do not like, that will still happen, and it will become evident soon enough.
So if Microsoft knows they shipped 50K consoles to EB Australia, and then after a month, EB asks for another 50K, they can't assume that they've more than likely sold 50K Xbox consoles through EB Games?
The figure in the OP is referring to Sold Through no?
They can assume whatever they want. That's actually the point. People are trying to paint these figures as black and white - completely accurate or completely false. It's a sliding scale influenced by competency, bias, methodology, variance, and a slew of other factors as well.
Sony reached 2.1 million sold WW on 11/30, MS on 12/11
Sony in 15 days, MS in 18
Tomorrow's report will not confirm or deny today's data. It covers a smaller period of sales activity.
So what? We've still gotten numbers.
1 million on 15/11, 700k on 29/11, or during the weekend, the rest outside the launch days. So, 1.7 million in a handful of days.
Yeah it actually kinda dampers it a bit. Wont be as crazy with MS preempting things. Mission accomplished.Pretty much, NPD is going to be a fraction of this. It includes only part of the sales period and is US only afaik. Anyone expecting the truth from that might as well give it up.
Does anyone think major nelson and other Microsoft employees bought a ton of consoles themselves to inflate sales numbers?
Timing is a little weird as we will know tomorrow for sure about NA.
You just need a protractor.We've gotten numbers like the ones in the OP. People expecting definitive clarity will be disappointed. Just pouring one out for the glory days, is all.
Tomorrow only gives us numbers for 1 week of xbox sales and 2 weeks of ps4 sales.
December npd numbers (January) will be a full month
Does anyone think major nelson and other Microsoft employees bought a ton of consoles themselves to inflate sales numbers?
You just need a protractor.
In the end, we're talking about 100% sell-through on consoles being shipped on barges all over the world. We know that Sony was able to ship 1 million to North America by November 15. We know that they were able to ship another 1.1 million worldwide, with most going to Europe, by November 29. We know Microsoft was able to ship 1 million worldwide by November 22, and another 1 million worldwide as of the time of today's report.
In the end, they're shipping as much as they can and selling all of it (or most enough of it for it not to matter).
If I could quote the former First Lady and Secretary of the State for a moment.... what difference does it make? Why is there such a rush to paint one side in a positive light and the other negatively, as if both consoles aren't doing something tremendous at the moment?
Next year. All will become evident next year. We can point and laugh all we want and whomever is losing until we're frankly sick of it.
For all the ridiculous things I read in this thread, this takes the cake. I mean wow!
So because you don't like the console, its success must be the product of fraudulent numbers right?
lol. I'll never understand why people become so attached with cheering or hating multi-billion corporations.
You just need a protractor.
The timing is sort of irrelevant because the machines were not freely available.
Possibly.
Two weeks is still double, unless there were absolutely no ps 4s available on black friday?
Which I doubt but point taken as to some wiggle room there
Possibly.
Two weeks is still double, unless there were absolutely no ps 4s available on black friday?
Which I doubt but point taken as to some wiggle room there
Possibly.
Two weeks is still double, unless there were absolutely no ps 4s available on black friday?
Which I doubt but point taken as to some wiggle room there
Microsoft winning is good for all gamers. Sony winning is good for all gamers. Gamers winning is also nice, I hear.
Ok could be closer than we thought then for tomorrow.
I think we can all agree however that December npd will be more valuable in determining NA demand.
Ok could be closer than we thought then for tomorrow.
I think we can all agree however that December npd will be more valuable in determining NA demand.
Ok could be closer than we thought then for tomorrow.
I think we can all agree however that December npd will be more valuable in determining NA demand.
Ok could be closer than we thought then for tomorrow.
I think we can all agree however that December npd will be more valuable in determining NA demand.
Ok could be closer than we thought then for tomorrow.
I think we can all agree however that December npd will be more valuable in determining NA demand.
Nah, still too crazy with stock issues and holiday shopping. January onwards is a much more sobering realization.
Ok could be closer than we thought then for tomorrow.
I think we can all agree however that December npd will be more valuable in determining NA demand.
In the end, we're talking about 100% sell-through on consoles being shipped on barges all over the world. We know that Sony was able to ship 1 million to North America by November 15. We know that they were able to ship another 1.1 million worldwide, with most going to Europe, by November 29. We know Microsoft was able to ship 1 million worldwide by November 22, and another 1 million worldwide as of the time of today's report.
In the end, they're shipping as much as they can and selling all of it (or most enough of it for it not to matter).
If I could quote the former First Lady and Secretary of the State for a moment.... what difference does it make? Why is there such a rush to paint one side in a positive light and the other negatively, as if both consoles aren't doing something tremendous at the moment?
Next year. All will become evident next year. We can point and laugh all we want and whomever is losing until we're frankly sick of it.
I'm not sure anyone would agree with that!
It's Christmas time, so every unit shipped to retail will be sold. December npd will only tell us who got the better stock.
To be clear December sales npd .....Reporting in January was what I meant
To be clear December sales npd .....Reporting in January was what I meant
Competition is good. Sales parity is not as important however.
Why?All I can do is sigh.
I say it gets interesting from February on.
Microsoft winning is good for all gamers. Sony winning is good for all gamers. Gamers winning is also nice, I hear.
People think that 2 million number is false?
wow... Xbox One's success bother that much?
Sony reached 2.1 million sold WW on 11/30, MS on 12/11
Sony in 15 days, MS in 18