Uno Venova
Banned
That's what I always thought. But it needed to be re-confirmed since whenever MS has a poor or anti consumer practice announced there's a vocal 'sony too crowd' that suddenly appears.
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
@Yosp: PlayStation Plus Wont Be Required to Record and Stream Video of Games on PS4
- Thread starter Hoo-doo
- Start date
Omnistalgic
Member
I doubt this is Sony doing anything in contrast to MS. It's not even goodwill, these are things that should stay free as a standard. Hopefully more people agree and Xbox Live subscribers go down a bit and MS loosens up on there policies.
Those devious bastards
It's not like the "select" button was purely a button used for selecting stuff either.
If the share feature will end up being underutilized, it will just be used for other stuff down the line.
I agree that PS+ was already a good value for a long time. Sony obviously thinks their conversation rate isn't high enough, despite offering a good service.
I still recommend PS+ for people that are only buying a PS3 at this time, because of the IGC. It's a great value and is just fantastic for people with kids, as they will always have something new to play.
Yeah, this is undoubtedly something decided some time ago. It's not a case of 'MS says one thing, Sony says the opposite'. Sony has fairly consistently been independently sensible since they announced PS4 (moving mp behind PS+ excepted). Microsoft just hasn't.
Spirit of Jazz
Banned
Hey, maybe they'll actually stop following in the footsteps of MS's anti-consumer practices where it actually matters for most gamers and remove their paywall for online gaming. I get that this will be nice for some but I couldn't care less about streaming.
CambriaRising
Member
Oh man, those guys in the other thread are going to be so disappointed.
In an alternative world it would do something: Show you a checkout page to insert wallet details. Exciting!
Wickerbasket
Member
It's gotten to the point where we're thanking companies for not trying to take a shit on us.
Microsoft's the best PR Sony ever had.
Microsoft's the best PR Sony ever had.
Maybe this doesn't serve an immediate use to you but what it does facilitate is exposure of games, even particularly ones that you didn't anticipate would entice you.
An example for me is DayZ. I had heard of it for some months and I am not remotely interested in zombie games. 10 or 20 vids or so later, I hopped on the DayZ hype train and was my most played game of 2012.
Edvardelis
Member
It's free advertising for Sony. That's why there's a physical button, and that's why it's not behind a paywall.
Pop
Member
I'll be destroying that button when something awesome happens in game. I believe that will be happening a lot.
DenogginizerOS
BenjaminBirdie's Thomas Jefferson
This is why I have reserved and saved up for a PS4. Not for the share features, but for the efforts Sony are making to listen to gamers.
Mistwalker
Member
And thank goodness for that!
This is the simple truth.
Sony can't help but look the savior by comparison, when in fact most if their policies are just common goddamn sense.
sleeping_dragon
Banned
The Art of War has a footnote on this strategy and it's called "Making a fool of your enemies when they are being foolish".
Triggerhappytel
Member
Wait, isn't 'mouthpiece' a derogatory term? Shuhei is awesome; he's easily one of the best execs out of the Big Three if not all videogame publishers.
It wasn't high enough. That's why so many of their first party games had online passes. They needed revenue to compete in online infrastructure and didnt want to do online passes again. They're already giving away free games and can't give away anything else. Moving a feature that gamers want to the pay side was the only way to have the money to compete with the cloud and other features.
Metalmurphy
Member
Who would have thought that I would actually be defending Microsoft... but...
X1 recordings will be saved to Microsofts cloud, PS4 ones will be saved to Facebook/Youtube/whatever, so it's easy to understand why you'll be paying for one and not the other.
Streaming however, yeah, there's no reason what so ever to lock that behind a pay wall.
I didn't intend it to sound derogatory at all. I love Yoshida!
This.
Absolutely agreed, here. After all, in the MS thread, a key argument was that this feature is free marketing for games and it;s still for MS to put it behind a wall.
I think I am much more likely to view content made by others than share my own. If I end up buying games after seeing videos that I wouldn't have otherwise checked out, then Sony wins
Katana_Strikes
Member
MS are in a catch 22 situation with stuff like this. It doesn't look great on them when they put stuff like this behind a paywall when their competition doesn't. Yet if they were to do a u-turn it looks like they are copying the competition and backing down on their own visions. Meaning they aren't leading and just following all the time.
Still they made their bed through all this. But either way it doesn't make them look good.
Still they made their bed through all this. But either way it doesn't make them look good.
It's common fucking sense that this should be free. Every video thats uploaded helps to advertise the platform. You want people watching as many videos as possible all recorded on your platform and discussing them.
How stupid would a company have to be to lock this feature behind the paywall?
How stupid would a company have to be to lock this feature behind the paywall?
Krusenstern
Banned
Exactly this here. After next generation this will be behind a pay wall. MS will make it possible.
Templar_Dante
Banned
Sony+gamers = +1
MS+partners = 0
Im sorry, but nobody can argue with Sony not having gamers interests at heart here. PS4 needs to be their bread and butter. Their not going to step on our toes.
As for MS.. their like the rich kid involved in the industry just cuz they have the money for it.
MS+partners = 0
Im sorry, but nobody can argue with Sony not having gamers interests at heart here. PS4 needs to be their bread and butter. Their not going to step on our toes.
As for MS.. their like the rich kid involved in the industry just cuz they have the money for it.
I thought it was tongue in cheek.
That logic seems faulty.
Microsoft put a tonne of things behind XBL in the 360 generation.
Sony only adopted one - the key one - and it should be enough to drive PS+ membership without having to add in other things.
Party chat, media apps etc. weren't moved behind PS+ on PS4 just because MS 'made it possible' on 360. I don't think they're the key reason people pay for XBL - it's because you kind of have to if you want to play online at all.