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your GAME OF THE GEN thus far.
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AltogetherAndrews
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MoonsaultSlayer said:
You're a riot. You're being shat on because you said, and I quote, "I guess I never got affected by the Nintendo/Mario bug to be glued to it with the sense of nostalgia like the rest of the world," which you followed up with "I don't really think this game would have the impact on most of you if it wasn't a colorful Mario game. I can predict next gen's favorite game amongst you guys will be the new Mario game. It's not really a surprise." You also clearly stated your opinion of the game, and later came back and tried to in all seriousness get away with claiming that you were asking questions to see if the game "would be for you."
And now, you're bleeding martyr tears, which seems to be par for the course for dudes caught with their nards in the marmalade. So very generic.
I dont get the guy... my first game that got me into gaming was Street Fighter 2, I didnt really like mario 1 or 2. I liked 3 all right and really liked Super mario World. Mario 64 was great, sunshine was boring and Galaxy was a work of art.AltogetherAndrews said:
Seriously that game is crafted and polished so well. The music the artstyle, the fun. Its just great, its amazing how good it is. Its so rare to have games released tehse days that are polished so well.
Dabookerman
Member
MoonsaultSlayer said:
Soooo.. You don't like platformers?
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Deleted member 30609
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I've never heard of Demon Souls. If anyone wants to sum it up in a sentence, then I can guarantee you I'll... read said sentence.
CreatureX3
Member
Super Mario Galaxy
I already posted that if you put a gun to my head and forced me to pick one game that has defined this generation for me, it was Assassin's Creed; however, I'll post some of my honorable mentions.
~ Fable II ~ My console GotY for 2008, exceeded all of my expectations.
~ Call of Duty 4 ~ What can be said about this game that hasn't already been said?
~ Grand Theft Auto IV ~ Ahh yes, the game that GAF playfully loves to hate
~ Crackdown ~ It was what everyone wanted but never thought we'd get; GTA with super powers. This game opened the floodgates for games like InFamous and Prototype, and I love it for that. Now where's my damn sequel?
I'm excluding World of Warcraft because while both The Burning Crusade and Wrath of the Lich King have been released well within this generation of consoles, WoW itself does not belong to a single generation in my opinion. And pinning it to one seems unfair since Blizzard is still changing the way the game works as time progresses. WoW, and MMO's in general, are definitely not the same genre they were back in 2004.
(Also keep in mind I haven't so much as touched Super Mario Galaxy or MGS4)
~ Fable II ~ My console GotY for 2008, exceeded all of my expectations.
~ Call of Duty 4 ~ What can be said about this game that hasn't already been said?
~ Grand Theft Auto IV ~ Ahh yes, the game that GAF playfully loves to hate
~ Crackdown ~ It was what everyone wanted but never thought we'd get; GTA with super powers. This game opened the floodgates for games like InFamous and Prototype, and I love it for that. Now where's my damn sequel?
I'm excluding World of Warcraft because while both The Burning Crusade and Wrath of the Lich King have been released well within this generation of consoles, WoW itself does not belong to a single generation in my opinion. And pinning it to one seems unfair since Blizzard is still changing the way the game works as time progresses. WoW, and MMO's in general, are definitely not the same genre they were back in 2004.
(Also keep in mind I haven't so much as touched Super Mario Galaxy or MGS4)
Super Mario Galaxy is my pick
Close 2nd place are...
Audiosurf
Phoenix Wright
Ouendan
Elite Beat Agents
Meteos
Trauma Center Under the Knife
The DS has been so enjoyable for me. And I'm currently 2 years behind in terms of backlog. Have not bought a new DS game since fall of '06.
Close 2nd place are...
Audiosurf
Phoenix Wright
Ouendan
Elite Beat Agents
Meteos
Trauma Center Under the Knife
The DS has been so enjoyable for me. And I'm currently 2 years behind in terms of backlog. Have not bought a new DS game since fall of '06.
Just walk away.MoonsaultSlayer said:
You plainly said that you weren't interested in the game because it's a Mario/Nintendo game and that you've "outgrown" it's aesthetics. That's cool, just don't ask people why you should like it if you've already predetermined your opinion on the game.
It's funny that you suggested that it's simply loved because its a Mario game, given that the previous game Mario Sunshine, was generally considered a disappointment as a followup to Mario 64, and almost never claimed the number one spot on best of Gamecube lists.
It just seems that you're tripping over your words, so that's why I'm suggesting that you calmly leave the thread before you continue to show the jumps in logic that pervade your posts here.
Captain Pants
Killed by a goddamned Dredgeling
As much as I love Demon's Souls(and I really really do!), my vote has to go to Oblivion, flaws and all. I have more hours in Oblivion than any other game this gen, and I still go back to it about once a month.
Captain Pants
Killed by a goddamned Dredgeling
Rez said:
Here is my attempt:
Demon's Souls is a brutal third person action RPG on the PS3 with great level design and huge bosses.
MoonsaultSlayer said:
I just want to state that I immediately tried to discredit your imagining of it being a waggle-fest. It's most definitely not. I can understand why a waggle game would not be for you, and I said this game is not, and you say it's not for you.
UNLESS you're saying that "IF it is a waggle fest, then it's not for you", then what I'm saying can be discredited. It just comes across that you're assuming it to be without playing, and then saying it's not for you.
purvispisgah
Member
Bioshock
mambadragon
Banned
The Orange Box
MoonsaultSlayer
Member
Pyrokai said:
Yeah, I thought it was. There was a day when I wanted it and wanted to get a Wii. It's not on my list anymore. I've taken back my comments before shit got out og hand but....
To everyone else: Yeah, I know what I said about most mario fans liking a mario game. If you don't consider yourself in that category, then why are you bothering to get upset and respond to my posts? Is it a shameful tag?
DeathbyVolcano
Banned
MoonsaultSlayer said:
It's a little degrading to people who, you know, aren't dirty ninthings and still think Mario Galaxy is an incredible game.
GrotesqueBeauty
Banned
Because presumptuous douchebags like you keep shitting up the thread claiming that people have some sort of ulterior motivation in choosing their favorite game of the generation, and it's always an accusation leveled at the same game (zomg, you can't enjoy a Mario game without being a nostalgia brainwashed fanboy!). It's dismissive and obnoxious. You apparently haven't even played the game, so what the hell would you know about it? I'd say you and the other people repeatedly making and defending this dumb claim show a more blatant bias than the people just popping in and offering their earnest opinion about what they personally like.MoonsaultSlayer said:
I like how the backtracking going on is just as bad (lol, I only said SOME of you were brainwashed fanboys. Why U so mad? Durrr....).
TheKingsCrown
Banned
Thus far I have to say Super Mario Galaxy to be honest.
TheGrayGhost
Banned
This was a popular sig before THE game released:
"Super Mario Galaxy will break the laws of AAA gaming. It will become the first S-class title, where it will sadly remain alone until the next Super Mario game descends from the heavens."
While it is an incredible game, no doubt about that, that it really isn't the phenomenon that SMB was, that SMB3 was, that SMW was, that NSMB currently is, means that Nintendo and the series still has a long ways to go to make Super Mario an untouchable, undisputed giant on consoles again. No doubt it will probably be one of the best selling games this generation, but that didn't used to be enough for this fuckin juggernaut of a series. The paradox that fascinates me is that in order to meet that legacy of greatness, it would seem to me that Nintendo would have to move away from Super Mario Galaxy and, by extension, what many of you seem to want out of the series and out of them as a game developer in general. That is why (Amir0x is rolling his eyes right about now
) I think SMG is a commencement, the end of something old and the start of something new. If you take a look at the bizarre ending of Super Mario Galaxy, parse its imagery and its words, it would seem to me that Nintendo is aware of this: Rosalina outright says that the old is passing and being reformed into something new. Not to worry, as Super Mario welcomes the new with an embrace ("Weclome! Welcome new galaxy!")
This is why I didn't vote for SMG for my game of the gen and voted, instead, for PH. I think the latter is a game that is part of this "new galaxy," and it is something that I'm totally in sync with...
"Super Mario Galaxy will break the laws of AAA gaming. It will become the first S-class title, where it will sadly remain alone until the next Super Mario game descends from the heavens."
While it is an incredible game, no doubt about that, that it really isn't the phenomenon that SMB was, that SMB3 was, that SMW was, that NSMB currently is, means that Nintendo and the series still has a long ways to go to make Super Mario an untouchable, undisputed giant on consoles again. No doubt it will probably be one of the best selling games this generation, but that didn't used to be enough for this fuckin juggernaut of a series. The paradox that fascinates me is that in order to meet that legacy of greatness, it would seem to me that Nintendo would have to move away from Super Mario Galaxy and, by extension, what many of you seem to want out of the series and out of them as a game developer in general. That is why (Amir0x is rolling his eyes right about now
) I think SMG is a commencement, the end of something old and the start of something new. If you take a look at the bizarre ending of Super Mario Galaxy, parse its imagery and its words, it would seem to me that Nintendo is aware of this: Rosalina outright says that the old is passing and being reformed into something new. Not to worry, as Super Mario welcomes the new with an embrace ("Weclome! Welcome new galaxy!")This is why I didn't vote for SMG for my game of the gen and voted, instead, for PH. I think the latter is a game that is part of this "new galaxy," and it is something that I'm totally in sync with...
BatiGOOOOOOL
Member
Super Mario Galaxy
Dabookerman
Member
New Super Mario Bros is a phenomenon???
I thought the consensus was that the game was a great game, but nothing majorly new.
And very easy.
I thought the consensus was that the game was a great game, but nothing majorly new.
And very easy.
DeathbyVolcano
Banned
TheGrayGhost said:This was a popular sig before THE game released:
"Super Mario Galaxy will break the laws of AAA gaming. It will become the first S-class title, where it will sadly remain alone until the next Super Mario game descends from the heavens."
While it is an incredible game, no doubt about that, that it really isn't the phenomenon that SMB was, that SMB3 was, that SMW was, that NSMB currently is, means that Nintendo and the series still has a long ways to go to make Super Mario an untouchable, undisputed giant on consoles again. No doubt it will probably be one of the best selling games this generation, but that didn't used to be enough for this fuckin juggernaut of a series. The paradox that fascinates me is that in order to meet that legacy of greatness, it would seem to me that Nintendo would have to move away from Super Mario Galaxy and, by extension, what many of you seem to want out of the series and out of them as a game developer in general. That is why (Amir0x is rolling his eyes right about now
This is why I didn't vote for SMG for my game of the gen and voted, instead, for PH. I think the latter is a game that is part of this "new galaxy," and it is something that I'm totally in sync with...
This is the most ridiculous post I've read in a long time; fitting it's coming from you. NSMB is a...phenomenon? Are you fucking serious? It's not even the best Mario game on the DS.
You keep forgetting to take your crazy pills. Stop fellating the DS so much.
TheGrayGhost
Banned
dabookerman said:
Well, I personally think it is a very important game, the first of Nintendo's legacy games to be remade "anew," as it were. But those are my own thoughts that many others here would NOT share. But the point is, the consensus, on this board, doesn't really matter in a larger sense. What does matter is that it will be the most enjoyed Super Mario game since the original Super Mario Brothers.
BrandNew said:
What does that have to do with it being a phenomenon? It IS a phenomenon, and whether you or I find it worthy of it is irrelevant. There is nothing debatable about that.
And as far as my extrapolating so much from the conclusion of SMG, well, yeah, it is a bit of a stretch. But it's poetic, and that's the fuckin point.
dabookerman said:
Pretty much exactly how I felt about it. It took a bunch of elements of 2D Mario which is fine (great even), but it didn't execute them nearly as well as it should have, and the pitifully low difficulty really hurts it in the end.
I enjoyed the game but I actually can't remember a damn thing about it other than that.
GrotesqueBeauty
Banned
I'm pretty sure when TheGrayGhost starts going on about his Mario Galaxy ending conspiracy theories and how great Phantom Hourglass is regular protocol is to cast your gaze downward in embarrassment for him and gently shake your head. There's no use trying to make any logical sense of it.dabookerman said:
DeathbyVolcano
Banned
TheGrayGhost said:
Wha...what?
NSMB does absolutely NOTHING new; it brings no reinvention or new concepts to the table. It is, very simply, aping the same formula as the original SMB, only prettied up.
TheGrayGhost
Banned
BrandNew said:
Uh... ok? I never said that it did or did not do those things. All I said was that it was a phenomenon and will be the most enjoyed Super Mario, indeed, probably the most enjoyed game, since the original Super Mario Brothers. Well, since WiiSports took the crown from Super Mario Brothers not too long ago, since WiiSports.
EDIT: Oops. Made a mistake in my previous post and corrected it.
BrandNew said:
Why are you laughing? I am not disputing your opinions against the game (though, I do disagree with them to an extent), but I AM saying that is a very, very, very popular game, and it is a phenomenon. YOU CANNOT DISPUTE THAT.
DeathbyVolcano
Banned
:lol
Dabookerman
Member
TheGrayGhost said:
Hmm. Well While I agree that SMB/SMB3 and SMW are seen globally as genre defying, monumental games, and many many people will agree with this, which is kind of important regarding the point being made here, most would agree that NSMB is not part of that selection.
Mario 64 is, and many would argue that SMG is as well.
Again, it's great you love NSMB a lot, and I am not trying to argue that opinion.
I myself enjoyed NSMB, but it was far too easy, and I don't even remember the last boss ;x. I also don't have any desire to play the game again. I could very easily play SMB3/W again though, but that might just be nostalgia.
Well... all good games so.
Oh I see what you mean now, it was a phenomenon sales wise. Yeah, I agree with you. It did sell a shit load.
MoonsaultSlayer
Member
GrotesqueBeauty said:
Not sure how many times I need mention that I've taken back some of my comments because either I answered it with my own post or opened my mind. The more some of you keep bitching, the more it makes me laugh and prove my original point. Seriously, let it go. I took it back so fucking long ago. Some of you are like little bitches butt hurt over this shit, it's pathetic.
radioheadrule83
Banned
Super Mario Galaxy (wii)
Runners up for me:
Warhawk (PS3) - Ludicrously good
Uncharted (PS3) - I didnt really dig the gunplay too much, but its a fantastic game
Metal Gear Solid 4 (PS3) - I don't regard this as highly as MGS3, but its a great game/story and MGO puts it over the top
Mirrors Edge (PS3/360) - one of the nicest ideas and nicest playing games of the gen
Metroid Prime 3: Corruption (Wii) - replaying this at the moment on Veteran and really enjoying it
Mario Kart Wii - flawed in some ways, but still one of the most fun games of the generation and one of the most accessible online games out there. Accessable as in anyone can approach it and play.
Runners up for me:
Warhawk (PS3) - Ludicrously good
Uncharted (PS3) - I didnt really dig the gunplay too much, but its a fantastic game
Metal Gear Solid 4 (PS3) - I don't regard this as highly as MGS3, but its a great game/story and MGO puts it over the top
Mirrors Edge (PS3/360) - one of the nicest ideas and nicest playing games of the gen
Metroid Prime 3: Corruption (Wii) - replaying this at the moment on Veteran and really enjoying it
Mario Kart Wii - flawed in some ways, but still one of the most fun games of the generation and one of the most accessible online games out there. Accessable as in anyone can approach it and play.
TheGrayGhost
Banned
dabookerman said:
All good.
But...
dabookerman said:
See, this is a bit frustrating. I think it is important to read my words more closely. I haven't said that I "love NSMB a lot," although I very much do. What I have said is that it is a phenomenon, whether or not this board finds it worthy of such a distinction is irrelevant. The fact of the matter is, it will probably be the most popular game, ever, that was not packed in (although, from what I understand, it was a pack-in for a short period of time.) That is what I mean by phenomenon. Again, by saying that, I am not saying I love the game (I do) or if it's a better game than SMG (I don't care if it is or isn't).
dabookerman said:
I just saw this edit. I'm glad we understand each other a bit more. But I'm not just looking at this from a unit-sales point of view, I see its success as meaning that there is a quality to it that, say, SMG, as incredible a game it is, does not have. Finding this quality and then harnessing it will define the direction of games in this "new galaxy," if I can continue the metaphor. My earlier point was that this elusive quality may not be one that gamers such as ourselves will find appealing, that's the paradox.
I think all of what I have said is fair.