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Zelda oot 3ds same price as infamous second son. Why?

Because it sold 3million at 39.99 and will continue to sell a million or so more.

Legs+Remake of one of the greatest games of all time.
 
Nintendo games (usually) stay pretty close to their MSRP, at least the good ones.
I've been waiting forever to buy a copy since I lost mine, but I've never seen it below 30 :(
 
I think they want to retain price parity because those titles are so similar.

Seriously though, it's just the way the Nintendo market is. Slightly different markets, usually different results, but sometimes coincidentally run parallel to each other. Overall Nintendo games tend to have longer tails than, say, Sony 1st party efforts. But what a random comparison.
 
Nintendo games generally are consistent long-term sellers. There are exceptions and they did eventually introduce a 'greatest hits' line for Wii, but more often than not, they don't need to.
 
The market dictates game pricing and the perceived value of the property.

Hence, Infamous: Second Son's is perceived to be of lesser value than Zelda - how surprising.
 
Answer #347: Because Nintendo games have a much longer track record of quality than whoever developed Infamous. But even moreso, this:

MasterOfPuppets said:
People are willing to buy at that price.
 
Do we have any numbers to back up the idea that a 3 year old port is still selling "substantive amounts" or are we just assuming so to justify the price?
 
It works both ways. You buy Zelda and it will still be worth about the same in a year whilst Infamous will be a fraction of the price.
 
Really don't get the point of this thread - is Infamous some kind of OoT substitute on the 3DS? I could name a bunch of f2p or mobile games and as why I pay for games at all? Why are multiplattform console games 60 USD on PS4 and One when you can get the superior PC version for less than 10.
 
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Their games don't drop in price. The only reason I got Mario Galaxy for £15 is because Mario Galaxy 2 came out (and was out for a few years when I bought MG1), which is still £35 - £40 on Amazon.

And that's part of why I haven't bought Nintendo games in a long time, with that money I could get numerous indies or a couple of retail games with that price, and while those 2-3 games aren't Mario or Zelda they're damn good games with hours of content (I got the combined Atelier Adventure of Arland trilogy for a grand total of £45 ffs)
 
Yup. That limited, hardcore market is the only reason Mario Kart Wii sold 30+ million copies with no price drops.

And that casual/mass market consumer enjoyed the Nintendo experience so well that they have continued to propel the company to record sales over the last three years. Oh wait......
 
I know that when I by a Nintendo game it won't drop 25% in a month out two. People figured Infamous would drop price soon and waited, and so it did. That's gotta the market works.
 
Do we have any numbers to back up the idea that a 3 year old port is still selling "substantive amounts" or are we just assuming so to justify the price?

Zelda: Ocarina of Time is currently in the top 20 sales chart for 3DS on Amazon UK, and has been for the last three years. And that's just one retailer, in just one region.

On amazon.com, it's in the top ten right now, if I'm not mistaken.
 
I know what you mean OP, Second Son should definitely be much cheaper, considering it's the series weakest entry.
 
Could be many reasons.
- Less competition from third parties on Nintendo systems means price can remain high and still sell.
- Higher quality of the game itself.
- Game appeals to a huge range of people, so a lot of people buy it, or it appeals to a market with more spending power.
- Not many copies get traded in, so not much pressure from pre owned market to lower prices.

There's just a few random ideas it could be. It could be one of those or all of them.
 
One is the game most universally acclaimed as the best game of all time, even almost 2 decades after its release, the other is a game many only played because it was the first notable release after a launch drought of a new console and that hardly anyone will remember in two years.
 
Yeah its an old game...but you're comparing Second Son to Ocarina of Time. I think we all knew Second Son would be 30-40 bucks a month or so after release.

Also, Nintendo does this all the time because they're games actually have an extremely long life span of sales.

And no, its not the "hardcore gamers" buying the games at these high prices like that one dude said.
 
- Less competition from third parties on Nintendo systems means price can remain high and still sell.

You do realize Nintendo games don't just compete with other games on Nintendo platforms, right? They compete for attention and dollars which are both multiplatform franchises (indeed, they are not even exclusive to the game industry!).
 
nintendo charges high all the time and they rarely drop their prices..

but you can also sell their games and get a lot back.

i sold a bunch of old ps3 and xbox games at gamestop and i just got back like $80 store credit

my friend sold both New Super Mario Bros and Mario Kart Wii and got back $70 store credit.
 
Nintendo doesn't lower the price and doesn't print too many copies so shops can't go lowering the price themselves because they're drip fed small quantities.
 
You do realize Nintendo games don't just compete with other games on Nintendo platforms, right? They compete for attention and dollars which are both multiplatform franchises (indeed, they are not even exclusive to the game industry!).

As politely as I can be, I'm not 100% sure what point you're trying to make :(
 
one game is allegedly timeless, the other is still relatively new and can sell for that price

both games aren't all they're cracked up to be
 
1) its Nintendo
2) and this is in reply to "because it sells"
retailers probably don't order in bulk like other releases or they aren't sent many, so Its either short supply or the retailer orders in small quantities for thoses games
If a retailer can drop the price of a product and continues to stock it then its because Its sells, if the price is high and drops off the radar then it wasn't selling, and alone price drop you'll see is a clearance sale.

But in case Its because its Nintendo.
 
You do realize Nintendo games don't just compete with other games on Nintendo platforms, right? They compete for attention and dollars which are both multiplatform franchises (indeed, they are not even exclusive to the game industry!).


And seeing as they down 30% year over year, I would argue that they aren't doing a very good job of that and that it might be time to start taking a more critical look at their business model.

ignorant and slightly insulting answer. I can buy KIU for £12

It is $40 at Target and Best Buy in the US.
 
would the people justifying the price with "because it's the greatest game of all time" also be willing to pay $39> (or whatever the launch price was) for super mario bros 3 in these troubled modern times?
 
So apparently Nintendo has to apologize for making good games that people are willing to buy full-price for 3+ years, while other companies are making games like infamous that devaluate quickly.

Nah, kidding, I get your point OP, games should be cheaper after a couple of years since their release.

I "had" to buy Kirby: Mass attack (DS) for 40 € yesterday.
 
So apparently Nintendo has to apologize for making good games that people are willing to buy full-price for 3+ years, while other companies are making games like infamous that devaluate quickly.

Nah, kidding, I get your point OP, games should be cheaper after a couple of years since their release.

I "had" to buy Kirby: Mass attack (DS) for 40 € yesterday.

they shouldn't be cheaper for no reason at all, expecially if they keep selling
 
would the people justifying the price with "because it's the greatest game of all time" also be willing to pay $39> (or whatever the launch price was) for super mario bros 3 in these troubled modern times?
If they remade SMB3, yes? How is this a tricky question?
 
No, it means you should eventually lower the price of your games over time like every other company in every other market. But they can get away with it, just like MS was able to get away with charging for online for over a decade despite most people being against the idea. Just because it still sells doesn't mean it's pro-consumer.

It's not supposed to be pro-consumer. It simply is what it is. Businesses and retailers have no obligation to drop prices for luxuries. Games drop in price to clear slow-moving stock or to undercut competition. More often than not, Nintendo and their suppliers don't need to do that. If Activisarts could charge 60-40 dollars for Fall of Explosion 3: Rise of the Waypoint consistently for several years, then they would. As it is, they have to seek alternatives in the form of discounts, promotions and DLC to keep that all-important launch period buoyant for the short time they can.

Standard Nintendo greed. They have a limited market of hardcore fans that will buy their games no matter the cost.

While this is an inane or possibly sarcastic comment, there is some truth to it. Rental and used games are very much a part of the Sony/MS market. But the Nintendo used/rental market is very small. For a number of reasons, once sold, they typically don't find their way back out into the wild. Hence, Nintendo games keep selling because they require replacements.
 
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