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[Danthrax]

I don't know why some of you keep spinning the texture work in this game. The textures are crap, stop fooling yourselves. They hurt the overall visual presentation.

At the same time, they aren't ruining the game, either. The style is nice and the lighting is hot. That lava pic is sex -- if you ignore the shitty rock textures.

 

[Magicpaint]

I don't know why some of you keep spinning the texture work in this game. The textures are crap, stop fooling yourselves. They hurt the overall visual presentation.

I don't know why some of you keep insisting the texture work is crap in this game. The textures aren't crap, stop fooling yourselves. They don't even hurt the overall visual presentation.

 

[SantaC]

Okay guys. Here ist another new screenshot:

yes another new one

information is slowly trickling out of this game!

 

[Error]

I don't know why some of you keep spinning the texture work in this game. The textures are crap, stop fooling yourselves. They hurt the overall visual presentation.

At the same time, they aren't ruining the game, either. The style is nice and the lighting is hot. That lava pic is sex -- if you ignore the shitty rock textures.

is a current gen game what did you expect?

and I don't know what so crappy about the textures.

 

[Shiggy]

I don't know why some of you keep spinning the texture work in this game. The textures are crap, stop fooling yourselves. They hurt the overall visual presentation.

At the same time, they aren't ruining the game, either. The style is nice and the lighting is hot. That lava pic is sex -- if you ignore the shitty rock textures.

I have to agree, some parts are ruined by these N64-like textures.

 

[Magicpaint]

I have to agree, some parts are ruined by these N64-like textures.

The problem is these textures are only highlighted because of the screens, watch the trailer, the OVERALL texture work is lovely, a few bad textures does not make the whole game suddenly look bad texture wise.

It didn't stop people from thinking RE4 was the best looking game this generation.

 

[Error]

I have to agree, some parts are ruined by these N64-like textures.

which parts?

 

[Danthrax]

I don't know why some of you keep insisting the texture work is crap in this game. The textures aren't crap, stop fooling yourselves. They don't even hurt the overall visual presentation.

Here, I MSPainted a quick visual guide to help you out.

 

[Xdrive05]

I can't say the textures bother me even in the slightest. I loved WW graphics and that game had basically NO texture resolution, but was given a free pass on the "style card."

Plus the lowres textures have that oversaturated filter over them to make it less noticeable. It's not detailed, no, it has that soupy look in places, but for this type of game I really don't think that matters.

 

[guise]

:lol @ criticizing rock textures

If rocks were the only thing you see in the game then fair enough, but GODDAMN people. They're rocks!

 

[ahmad]

Here, I MSPainted a quick visual guide to help you out.

Get a life

 

[Magicpaint]

Here, I MSPainted a quick visual guide to help you out.

All you've proven is that some of the texture work is low res. It doesn't say much in the big picture. IMO.

RE4 had just as bad textures, who the hell nitpicks about them when they are playing? They don't because overall the game still looks stunning and the overall texture work is still fantastic. That's my point.

 

[SantaC]

Here, I MSPainted a quick visual guide to help you out.

oh the noes, this game is unplayable now! Seriously, we all know that this is a GC game from the ground, and it wont magically become a PS3 game. Let's enjoy what we got, and stop nitpicking.

 

[Error]

Here, I MSPainted a quick visual guide to help you out.

:lol

still looks fine to me.

 

[Oblivion]

Here, I MSPainted a quick visual guide to help you out.

I don't even think those look bad. As mentioned, these are just screens, when watching it in motion, it will hardly be a problem. Now stop trolling the greatest game ever! >:O

 

[lancubap]

Okay guys. Here ist another new screenshot:

Another incredible screenshot. Nintendo said during E3 2006 media Briefing that " Twilight Princess is by far the best Zelda ever made and this is the most beautiful game Nintendo has ever created".

I think that they were right. These images are really impressive.

 

[Danthrax]

Get a life

It took two minutes. Don't be a bitch.

 

[Azelover]

This game looks amazing. Anyone who's critisizing the textures has no credibility whatsoever. Are freaking textures going to ruin this game? Did they ruin OOT? My god.

Exactly, the game's gonna be amazing regardless and it looks great too. But I can see where they come from with that, because honestly OOT had pretty good ground textures overall, specially the green on the Hyrule field, it's been sometime I've played it but I'd say they're at least equal or even superior to most of Twilight's environmental textures, which is saying something. Overall the game looks great though, just not the textures.

 

[Shiggy]

which parts?

Sorry, I'd guess I am not allowed to post pictures of them here.

But I'm confident it won't matter while playing the game.

At least, it doesn't look like this anymore:

 

[Oblivion]

Sorry, I'd guess I am not allowed to post pictures of them here.

But I'm confident it won't matter while playing the game.

At least, it doesn't look like this anymore:

You do realize that shot is from last year, right?

 

[Speevy]

I think Nintendo's been borrowing from Kojima's collection of surreal textures.

 

[SantaC]

You do realize that shot is from last year, right?

that's what he said.

 

[Shiggy]

You do realize that shot is from last year, right?

Is reading that hard?

 

[Oblivion]

Is reading that hard?

Argh. Apologies.

 

[Danthrax]

I don't even think those look bad. As mentioned, these are just screens, when watching it in motion, it will hardly be a problem. Now stop trolling the greatest game ever! >:O

I didn't troll, I presented an argument. Trolling would be, "this gamez grafx are teh suck am total hrhrhrhr"

Now I didn't say the graphics were entirely bad. Yes the game looks good in motion. And I'm not even touching gameplay -- I'm sure it'll be transcendent, like all Zelda games. But damnit, some of the textures are such muddy shit! The textures on Link look very good, why can't they do that for the painted-on grass?

 

[guise]

 

[SantaC]

But damnit, some of the textures are such muddy shit! The textures on Link look very good, why can't they do that for the painted-on grass?

Please tell me a Gamecube game that has great textures. The weak amount of RAM limited the textures on GC.

 

[Oblivion]

I didn't troll, I presented an argument. Trolling would be, "this gamez grafx are teh suck am total hrhrhrhr"

I know, I was just messin, hence the ">:O".

 

[Danthrax]

Please tell me a Gamecube game that has great textures. The weak amount of RAM limited the textures on GC.

FFS, read what you quoted me on. SOME of the textures are good -- such as on Link. I really like his gauntlets. So why can't they do a nicer job with the grass, or the rocks, or any of the other parts of the environment that look like melting ice cream?

EDIT:

I know, I was just messin, hence the ">:O".

Okay, all is forgiven. =) I'm really gettin hammered this thread, though...

 

[SantaC]

FFS, read what you quoted me on. SOME of the textures are good -- such as on Link. I really like his gauntlets. So why can't they do a nicer job with the grass, or the rocks, or any of the other parts of the environment that look like melting ice cream?

well, you know...maybe they couldn't pull of everything with the GC hardware as base? As I said, I don't think there is a single GC game with hi-res textures. And I am not givining you a hard time, I am just saying that the GC is not capable enough.

 

[Magicpaint]

FFS, read what you quoted me on. SOME of the textures are good -- such as on Link. I really like his gauntlets. So why can't they do a nicer job with the grass, or the rocks, or any of the other parts of the environment that look like melting ice cream?

EDIT:



Okay, all is forgiven. =) I'm really gettin hammered this thread, though...

Wow, talk about nitpicking. I can point out just about ANY current gen game that has a set of really low res textures, it's nothing new and since this is a current gen game, you are definitely making a mountain out of a mole hill.

This game is supposed to be huge and epic, with only 43MB of memory to work with, the limitations are as clear as day.

 

[SantaC]

Wow, talk about nitpicking. I can point out just about ANY current gen game that has a set of really low res textures, it's nothing new and since this is a current gen game, you are definitely making a mountain out of a mole hill.

This game is supposed to be huge and epic, with only 43MB of memory to work with, the limitations are as clear as day.

more like 24MB

Wii is 88MB which would be enough for decent textures, but as everyone know, this game is GC hardware built.

 

[Magicpaint]

more like 24MB

Wii is 88MB which would be enough for decent textures, but as everyone know, this game is GC hardware built.

Yeah... but
Well, there's the 16MB Auxillary memory (though slow as hell and not very useful for graphics) and the 3MB embedded memory (frame buffer, texture cache..)

 

[nathkenn]

you guys are right every game should go with the half life 2 approach and use uber hi res textures and have load times every 5 seconds. While we're at it we'll put the games on 10 discs so we can make sure the rocks are detailed to your specifications.

 

[Error]

meh if this anything to go by, the official thread for this game will be fucking mess.

 

[SantaC]

meh if this anything to go by, the official thread for this game will be fucking mess.

I think I will stay away from the official thread when it comes out.

 

[Bluemercury]

I don't know why some of you keep spinning the texture work in this game. The textures are crap, stop fooling yourselves. They hurt the overall visual presentation.

At the same time, they aren't ruining the game, either. The style is nice and the lighting is hot. That lava pic is sex -- if you ignore the shitty rock textures.

Seems you dont have MGS3 then....:lol :lol

 

[Danthrax]

you guys are right every game should go with the half life 2 approach and use uber hi res textures and have load times every 5 seconds. While we're at it we'll put the games on 10 discs so we can make sure the rocks are detailed to your specifications.

At least we'd have nice screenshots.

Spoiler

/sarcasm

I love the irony of the ad that showed up in this thread for me:

E-mail a link to Nintendo, stat! There's still time before Zelda's launch! :lol

 

[DSN2K]

So why can't they do a nicer job with the grass, or the rocks, or any of the other parts of the environment that look like melting ice cream?

there's something called Balance,

sometimes you have to cut back on certain aspects visually so that other parts what are more apparent(Link's model) look better.

lighting effects, shadows, character Models and Frame rate were more of a priority then texture quality when developing this game I guess.

 

[Cathcart]

Prediction...

Closing Comments
Twilight Princess would be a masterful achievement -- if it weren't for those darn rock textures. Nintendo has once again evolved the action-adventure and created a gargantuan world that seems to overflow with mystery, challenge, and ugly rocks. It's all knitted together with a storyline, but it's Zelda's unrivaled design, balanced and varied, and its polished play mechanics and control that ultimately set the game apart from just about every other competitor on the market. Also crotch textures ftl.

10 Presentation
Everything from a slick interface to so much of the Zelda universe to behold.
1.0 Graphics
Some of the rocks don't look so great.
8.0 Sound
Some great music and sound effects mix with some less than stellar, MIDI-like samples and muted speech work.
9.0 Gameplay
Just about as perfect as can be. Finely crafted play mechanics, control, balance, design, and more, but it's occasionally scarred by tedious fetch quests and a sense that the game lacks difficulty. Would have been a ten but gameplay kind of suffers when you have to keep looking at those junky rock textures. I mean there's freaking lava shooting up 30 feet in the air in front of you but you're looking at the rock by your foot. Who the hell even let you play video games? Get out of here.
10 Lasting Appeal
20+ hours the first time through and twice that for completionists -- and you'll want to come back after you beat it. Superb.
7.6 Not bad OVERALL
(out of 10 / not an average)

 

[Justin Bailey]

Nintendo really needs to get its act together and get them rock textures up to standards.

 

[lancubap]

Prediction...

Sorry but... :lol :lol

EDIT: Anyways, this game is really awesome.

 

[John Harker]

Prediction...

I lol'd

 

[John Harker]

crap, those pics are the GC version...?

Yea, I'll say wow to that.

Anyway, this IS going to be more than 1 disc, right?
First Nintendo game to do so?

 

[Oblivion]

Closing Comments
Twilight Princess would be a masterful achievement -- if it weren't for those darn rock textures. Nintendo has once again evolved the action-adventure and created a gargantuan world that seems to overflow with mystery, challenge, and ugly rocks. It's all knitted together with a storyline, but it's Zelda's unrivaled design, balanced and varied, and its polished play mechanics and control that ultimately set the game apart from just about every other competitor on the market. Also crotch textures ftl.

10 Presentation
Everything from a slick interface to so much of the Zelda universe to behold.
1.0 Graphics
Some of the rocks don't look so great.
8.0 Sound
Some great music and sound effects mix with some less than stellar, MIDI-like samples and muted speech work.
9.0 Gameplay
Just about as perfect as can be. Finely crafted play mechanics, control, balance, design, and more, but it's occasionally scarred by tedious fetch quests and a sense that the game lacks difficulty. Would have been a ten but gameplay kind of suffers when you have to keep looking at those junky rock textures. I mean there's freaking lava shooting up 30 feet in the air in front of you but you're looking at the rock by your foot. Who the hell even let you play video games? Get out of here.
6.0 Lasting Appeal
20+ hours the first time through and twice that for completionists -- and you'll want to come back after you beat it. Superb. But then there's the rocks...

6.8 Barely tolerable OVERALL
(out of 10 / not an average)

Fixed.

 

[lancubap]

Closing Comments
Twilight Princess would be a masterful achievement -- if it weren't for those darn rock textures. Nintendo has once again evolved the action-adventure and created a gargantuan world that seems to overflow with mystery, challenge, and ugly rocks. It's all knitted together with a storyline, but it's Zelda's unrivaled design, balanced and varied, and its polished play mechanics and control that ultimately set the game apart from just about every other competitor on the market. Also crotch textures ftl.

10 Presentation
Everything from a slick interface to so much of the Zelda universe to behold.
1.0 Graphics
Some of the rocks don't look so great.
8.0 Sound
Some great music and sound effects mix with some less than stellar, MIDI-like samples and muted speech work.
9.0 Gameplay
Just about as perfect as can be. Finely crafted play mechanics, control, balance, design, and more, but it's occasionally scarred by tedious fetch quests and a sense that the game lacks difficulty. Would have been a ten but gameplay kind of suffers when you have to keep looking at those junky rock textures. I mean there's freaking lava shooting up 30 feet in the air in front of you but you're looking at the rock by your foot. Who the hell even let you play video games? Get out of here.
6.0 Lasting Appeal
20+ hours the first time through and twice that for completionists -- and you'll want to come back after you beat it. Superb. But then there's the rocks...

6.8 Barely tolerable OVERALL
(out of 10 / not an average)

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol This thread is so amusing like Rayman 4's thread, do you remember ?

 

[lancubap]

Another one:

 

[[Nintex]]

This game looks awesome. First we had the Grass then the Boots and now people are complaining about ground Textures? This is Nintendo EAD we are talking about most of their games have shitty textures. These textures however ar way better compared to other games.

 

[RaidenZR]

Another one:

Is Link sleeping?

GET UP MAN! HYRULE IS IN TROUBLE!

 

[lancubap]

This game looks awesome. First we had the Grass then the Boots and now people are complaining about ground Textures? This is Nintendo EAD we are talking about most of their games have shitty textures. These textures however ar way better compared to other games.

The problem is that people have in their mind only Xbox360's textures. The comparison between Wii's and PS3's or Xbox360's graphics is just ridicolous.
If they try to compare Twilight Princess's textures with any other GC or Xbox or PS2's game, they will find that this game is a monster.

And then, even in comparison to the graphics of Necro Nesia or Red Steel, Twilight Princess is really beautiful. Cleary, Oblivion is 10x better, but it is obvious: a 3x3 Ghz CPU vs. a single 1.1 Ghz CPU that is still not utilised 100& is a War without hope.

So, I think that this game's graphics is really awesome, better then any last gen game, but of course not as good as Oblivion or Kameo or what you want in next-gen.